Federal Skilled Worker Class Action Lawsuit

[Gaber1]

Tyune, believe me with you have such kind of skull and brain you will live a miserable life hence onwards. you hurt with your actions to many many lifes and same will be your fate at some point of your life.

 

[warmest]

Tyune, believe me with you have such kind of skull and brain you will live a miserable life hence onwards. you hurt with your actions to many many lifes and same will be your fate at some point of your life.

I'm loving it.

 

[warmest]

Mr. (i assume it is Mr) Tuyen,

I have a question for you regarding the ridiculous backlog you referring to. Although I do understand the logic behind some of your comments, as well your attitude towards certain members of this forum I still very much oppose to your stance regarding the backlog and CIC operation.
I have 2 questions:
1. How can you justify slashing of the backlog by CIC without reviewing the applications? Didn't CIC came into legal contract with the applicants to review the application once it was received and the cheque was cashed? I am not going into the discussion whether it is beneficial or not for Canada, it is a simple matter of respecting a contract.
2. Taking into consideration your position that CIC should only grant PR to persons who are beneficial for Canada (which I agree) , how would you justify a theoretical case of someone who applied back in 2007 (simplified process), is working in Canada as TFW from middle 2010, have over 80 points by old, new and new-new points system and his pre-2008 file is still being slashed without review regardless the fact that CIC has asked him to file full application/language exams/etc in early 2011?

PS: As you understand this is not so theoretical case. I do have other options and am pursuing permanent residence in Canada in other ways. I just want to understand the way you and Mr. Kenney think (and that I am asking him too through MP)

I'm male, yes, but you don't have to call me "Mr. Tuyen". It's not my real name, and I'm not at all offended if you call me "Tuyen" or "hey you", or whatever else you prefer.

I justify it the same way that CIC justifies it: circumstances have changed, and in order to improve the situation, something needed to be done to clear the backlog and to streamline the process for the future.

The fundamental mistake that most people who are part of this lawsuit seem to be making is they're under the very erroneous impression that there's a LAW which requires CIC to process every application it receives from start to finish, and this is simply not true. There's no written law in Canadian immigration which states that every application MUST and WILL be processed, no matter what. This is nothing but wishful thinking and/or ignorance on the part of many who are taking part in this lawsuit. The POLICY of CIC is to process all applications it receives - but that policy can change at any time. CIC determines how many applications it wants to process during any given year, and from which countries. They also determine when to make changes to their policies. And there's a world of difference between a policy and a law. It's really that simple.

As I said, there was no contract - written or verbal - which said that CIC will process - under any and all circumstances, no matter what - all applications that it receives. And the fact that CIC has already refunded (or will soon refund) the cost of those applications means that they're not legally liable for any damages, despite what some lawyers may be telling you. If they're unable (or unwilling) to processing your application, AND they've fully refunded you the money you paid, then you've been made whole again, and in the eyes of the law, you're both leaving the same way you arrived.

A contract can be broken so long as the party who paid for products or services has been made whole again by way of compensation. And when CIC said they would give full refunds, they've fulfilled that obligation.

If the person acquired Permanent Resident status while working in Canada, that's great. If not, then Canada has the authority (as a sovereign country) to require that person to leave at any time. Being in Canada (either as a visitor or a worker) doesn't automatically grant a person the right to stay in the country permanently.

I can't speak on behalf of how Mr. Kenney thinks, but I would imagine his thought processes are fairly similar to my own in that Canada has the right to set its own immigration policies, and is able to change those policies at any time when it becomes necessary or beneficial to Canada. Submitting an immigration application is not a guarantee of anything.

Hi sashali78,

Did his reply make sense to you?

Now do you understand the logic behind his comments, as well as his attitude towards certain members of this forum? Is he also considering you as a part of that "certain members"?

Are you still very much opposed to his stance regarding the backlog and CIC operation?

What is your understanding of his participation in this thread, because he is neither a litigant nor an applicant? Do you know what business he has in this thread?

 

[warmest]

Hey any one from Singapore visa office got decision made?
Please inform ?

Yes, got it in December 2012 itself.

 

[noon]

Hi

Yes, because they make money off of you, win or lose, they make money.

Hi PMM,
Can you suggest some other option for this cheated applicants other than litigation?

 

[st-cnncomes]

I sometimes wish I could do business like CIC. Just invite people to pay a hundred dollars and wait for 10 years after which promise to pay them 100000 dollars. At the end of the 10th year tell them that there wasn’t any contract and simply refund the 100 dollars you took from them.

CIC was ignorant to assume that they were dealing with a bunch of fools. They have taken us for granted; on the contrary it would be foolish to not take them to court. In fact every applicant has to ensure this is done. If CIC hadn’t accepted money nor, given us written assurances, then it would have been a different story. The fact that so many have file cases and lawyers happily accepting them proves the point.

 

[sbernados]

HI everyone,

this is the latest update i've received on the on-line.

We started processing your application on February 8, 2008.

A decision has been made on your application. The office will contact you concerning this decision :-[ :-[ :-[

Hi annel, did you join the litigation? I am from manila visa office. Mine is still in process. :-( AOR JAn 2007 . for those " decisin made" status, did they join the litigation?

 

[wounderful]

I sometimes wish I could do business like CIC. Just invite people to pay a hundred dollars and wait for 10 years after which promise to pay them 100000 dollars. At the end of the 10th year tell them that there wasn't any contract and simply refund the 100 dollars you took from them.

CIC was ignorant to assume that they were dealing with a bunch of fools. They have taken us for granted; on the contrary it would be foolish to not take them to court. In fact every applicant has to ensure this is done. If CIC hadn't accepted money nor, given us written assurances, then it would have been a different story. The fact that so many have file cases and lawyers happily accepting them proves the point.

LOL... good business, pleased to be a partner.

 

[wounderful]

Please do not give Tuyen or his sort the benefit of a reply in the future. He is giving Canadians a bad reputation. He is not a party to this case but has constituted himself into a public nuisance.

This forum is to help people who have the intention to immigrate, not to put them down. It is sad when some persons decide to use a forum built in true Canadian spirit to denigrate others.

Pre-2008 applicants showed great faith in the Canadian system by waiting in line, they have shown further belief in the system by challenging it in the canadian justice system.

Rather than emotionally terrorize the applicants, it would have been better to at least let them confront this issue with their self respect intact.

VERY TURE ..

 

[annel]

Hi annel, did you join the litigation? I am from manila visa office. Mine is still in process. :-( AOR JAn 2007 . for those " decisin made" status, did they join the litigation?

Yes, and i'm sitting currently on the edge of my seat these 3 days (14-16 January'13). I'm sure justice will prevail

 

[wounderful]

Dear Members:

First day of the hearing is passed, lets see who will post the breaking news of that day.. :

 

[wounderful]

Most probably from http://www.bellissimolawgroup.com/arguments-in-class-proceedings-begins-january-14th-930-a-m-est link you will get the first breaking news.... Keep follow and Good luck to all of us. ;D

 

[jevan]

I have news for you, and this may come as a total shock to you, so I want you to sit down and brace yourself. Are you ready? Okay, here it is:

Emigrating to another country is NOT a human right.

If you don't understand that in English, please tell me what your native language is, and I will be more than happy to translate it for you in the hopes that it will finally penetrate your skull so that your brain can absorb it.

dosto mein guarantee say kehta hun k ye jasson kenney he tuyen k roop mein aa k bechara apnay dil ko tassali day rha hay q k ye janta hay k court iski zabardast bjanay wali hay.
Oye tuyen chal hun parrh eno kanjra tay jay tenu samjh na away tay angraizi vich translate kr dawan ga.

 

[tuyen]

Tyune, believe me with you have such kind of skull and brain you will live a miserable life hence onwards. you hurt with your actions to many many lifes and same will be your fate at some point of your life.

If I'm able to HURT you by stating my opinion, then your life is truly pathetic.

There's an expression in English, and it goes like this: "grow a pair".

If you're not familiar with it, I would urge you to look it up.

 

[tuyen]

Can you suggest some other option for this cheated applicants other than litigation?

Yeah...it's called stop whining and submit a NEW APPLICATION.

Under the new rules, your application would probably get processed 10 times faster than if you waited for the results of your lawsuit which will go nowhere.