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Express Entry - e-APR Submitted in November 2016

Nov 1, 2016
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Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Nomination.....
October 24th, 2016
rajkamalmohanram said:
BG check is a MAJOR phase - once the checks are done, you might receive your PPR. Refer the post below to get an idea (Its an old post but the crux is the same) -

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/background-checks-explained-t39578.0.html;msg267950#msg267950
Thanks Raj! though I am actually worrying now, as they might reject application due to country's PCC since I returned for two weeks in October 2016 while the PCC was issued in April 2016.

hb_rashidy said:
I think there is a pattern.
1. There must be a list of preferred NOCs. Most Likely Software Eng. and IT related occupations get processed at priority.
2. Certain nationalities are processed faster. (IMO native English speakers)
3. Each Visa office has some minimum target/month or tries to impress IRCC by very fast processing and finalizing of a very few lucky applicants.

But for Most of Us, It all depends on the assigned officer (his mode, speed, activeness, laziness, strictness or leniency ... these all traits are going to effect our fate).
I am not sured about 1 and 3, but I do agree on number 2. Applications from certain countries (Western and developed countries) will be processed faster than those in their "blacklist". We did have evidence that several cities and regions in China are listed as high risk in IRCC's database and requires additional attention.
 

Sluffy

Hero Member
May 11, 2016
205
21
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
13-11-2016
KrispyKreamKonnoisseur said:
I am not sured about 1 and 3, but I do agree on number 2. Applications from certain countries (Western and developed countries) will be processed faster than those in their "blacklist". We did have evidence that several cities and regions in China are listed as high risk in IRCC's database and requires additional attention.
Oh my, you are comparing pears and apples. Yes, there's a kind of high risk list based on fraud that was found earlier. But have you seen the % of applicants from India, Philippines or China proceed in less than two months? They are non-native speakers. The reason why some western countries applicants are proceeded faster is their quantity - there're much fewer applicants from let's say France than from China - just in number. A lot depends on your personal background. There're no details about in how many countries each individual lived in, if they had any visa refusals, if they possessed a governmental job or served the army, security questions, etc, everything that could require a more detailed check.
The thing I got from the forum is that FSW-O applicants can go through the major process partially in Ottawa (which is long) and partially in LVO (which is faster). Noone has an idea why. I can see applicants from my LVO who are getting their PPR's in 1.5 months and 9 months. Same visa office!
 

hb_rashidy

Hero Member
Aug 25, 2015
448
18
Pakistan
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1225
App. Filed.......
28-11-2016
Nomination.....
31-8-2016
AOR Received.
28-11-2016
IELTS Request
Ielts L8, R7.5, W7, S7
File Transfer...
16/12/2016
Med's Done....
16-11-2016
rajkamalmohanram said:
Spreadsheet updated.

Some of you have not provided your stream. Please take a look at the sheet and request an update. Thanks.
my bkg status. nn ns nn(10 or 12 Dec)
plz update that
 

tonykaram123

Star Member
Feb 7, 2016
141
37
Hi guys.
I submitted my Application on Oct.30.

I have 2 passports ( Both valid) . I used one as the principal passport for the PR application while the other one has all my travel history and my current work permit in the UAE. I included both in the application.
I renewed the second passport ( the one with the travel history and work permit).
Do you have to raise a CSE and let them know that I renewed it although it's not the principal passport used for the application ?

Thank You
 

tari7499

Hero Member
Jun 21, 2016
216
7
Faisalabad
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
6221 & 2132
App. Filed.......
04-Dec-2015
AOR Received.
14-Apr-2016. Additional Docs Request: 24-Sep-2016 Additional Docs Emailed: 28-Sep-2016 Notification for Decision Phase: 28-Sep-2016 Nomination: 30-Sep-2016
Passport Req..
23-Mar-2017
VISA ISSUED...
10-Apr-2017
LANDED..........
02-Jul-2017
This is a very unfortunate situation indeed. But if everything about your background is exactly like what you are saying, you may need to personally visit IRCC or try to get in touch with a credible authority.

mohammed.xyzt said:
Hello, everyone.
OK, I am totally fed up with the IRCC and lost all hope.
I applied and got the AOR on the 25th of August, 2015 (be careful, not 2016), more than 16 months ago!
I passed eligibility and the background check went in progress on December 24th, 2015 (again 2015, not 2016).
The CSIS (Canadian Intelligence) submitted its security screening results on the 19th of January, 2016 to the IRCC (almost a year ago), but I still haven't received a decision till now.
Why the hell is security taking more than a year now, when I have already in Canada for the past 4 years on a study permit for my PhD?! And they do renew the study permit every year without problem. So obviously, they don't think I am a security threat to Canada! And I lived in Canada for the past 4 without having any problems with the law, or with anyone actually!!!!!!
And the same in home country of Egypt, I didn't have any problems with the law or join any political parties, groups, or organizations!
I am totally fed up and thinking about complaining against the IRCC.
Any ideas to whom I can send my complaint or at least describe my situation?
I am thinking Minister of Immigration, MPs, the media, ...
And will complaining affect the decision in any way? Like they get mad and reject my application?
Any suggestions?
 

mohammed.xyzt

Full Member
Dec 25, 2016
42
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-08-2015
AOR Received.
25-08-2015
Passport Req..
04-04-2017
tari7499 said:
This is a very unfortunate situation indeed. But if everything about your background is exactly like what you are saying, you may need to personally visit IRCC or try to get in touch with a credible authority.
How can I visit the IRCC? Can I schedule an interview or do I just drop in to their office to Ottawa and knock on the door?
 

Surbhigurpreet

Hero Member
Sep 12, 2016
351
4
Delhi
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15.07.2015
Doc's Request.
21.09.2016
Nomination.....
14.10.2016
AOR Received.
15.11.2016
IELTS Request
upfront
File Transfer...
16.12.2016
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
12.11.2016 passed 21.11.2016
Passport Req..
07.03.2017
VISA ISSUED...
14.03.2017
LANDED..........
waiting
lazybone said:
my dear friend- i have helped you out once before hence i think i call you my friend...there actually are patterns..no established ones obviously due to people applying from all all the world from different vos..but from the common vos-there is a pattern..read and analyse the threads..theres a lot of useful info here people actually miss out on...

trust me there are many people who have applied and not even half of those people have found this useful forum...and for some, companies sponsor them or they get lawyers, right? please understand everyones situation is different firstly and there are so many categories that CIC has to process and we call them 10 times a day...multiply that with 10000 ( im not saying that they are not doing their best but just that they are human)

word of advice-no one here will see any progress before the 100 day-120 day mark firstly...the RPRFS will start coming in then for those who havent paid around that time and then you will get to know the speed of all of you together..keep youe eyes and ears open my friend......but ultimately, it all comes down to the processing VO, their speed, their pressures, etc..as far as progress goes...its very very early for you guys to actually get worried about anything...hope this helps!

Best wishes!!
Obviously lazybone u r a friend for sure and also hour help and expertise is always very useful... when u and raj confirm certain point i feel comfortable and confident.
I feel u have ultimately summarised ur point is exactly same which i was trying to make... we have seen people with getting PPR within 60 days and some are still waiting from last one and half years.... even i was stating that pattern depends on the visa officer his style of working, experience and the pressure of loads of pending application. I know that I will start getting impatient and frustated after my application crosses 6 months of pendency... till then i am waiting and happy to see my application being pending everyday.... i repeat myself... for me the formula is no news is great news... also as far as mu understanding is some bg check in some application is NN>NS>NN>IP>NN and some are NN throuought till PPR... some go IP ver early and some do not get to see anybchange... its all about that respective application and visa officer...
ur post are very helpfull... hope to see u in canada... thanks
 

lazybone

Champion Member
Jun 8, 2016
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hb_rashidy said:
You are very senior and most respected member of the forum, So your opinion weighs a lot and and have much depth than mine.
But for my first point, somewhere on IRCC website, I ve read that Minister of immigration can make a list of priority NOCs. (will provide the link if i will be able to find it again)
And then you see that every month certain applications are approved just within 1 or 2 months. 1 Applicant from November has a long list of travels and multiple work history as well but was approved within 1 month. And they are number of examples like these.
Regarding nocs-maybe you can find the link..it will help us all..i learn everyday from spending some time on the forum..but from personal experience during my application the IT/non IT applicants faced the same processing times more or less...i think it has more to do with the processing vo and the category you applied under..(sinp oid is the fastest that do get approved in 1 or 2 months like you are saying)

Yes agreed with you and others that have posted here regarding this topic...that certain applicants have to go thru some additional processing due to their history-maybe related to travel, personal history, etc- but thats just part and parcel of the process-cic needs to know you are good before they give you PR...that cant be helped..some examples from what i have seen-

-an applicant from pakistan,london vo, 9 pccs, 3 dependants got within 3 months(username wabz from march thread)
-two applicants(you can check them out) both from rome vo, both pnp..while one got PPR in 4 months approx while other is waiting (username carmaggedon from aug and petra2016 from july thread)

Both these cases debunks the western and non western country theory..the second case in particular would throw light on personal history, travels etc..

Every VO has KPIs as i mentioned earlier..just coz some vos process fast and some slow doesnt mean it doesnt get approved..

By the way, im no senior or anything- im just an applicant like yourself..thanks for being so kind :)

Good points raised..best wishes buddy!
 

hb_rashidy

Hero Member
Aug 25, 2015
448
18
Pakistan
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1225
App. Filed.......
28-11-2016
Nomination.....
31-8-2016
AOR Received.
28-11-2016
IELTS Request
Ielts L8, R7.5, W7, S7
File Transfer...
16/12/2016
Med's Done....
16-11-2016
lazybone said:
Regarding nocs-maybe you can find the link..it will help us all..i learn everyday from spending some time on the forum..but from personal experience during my application the IT/non IT applicants faced the same processing times more or less...i think it has more to do with the processing vo and the category you applied under..(sinp oid is the fastest that do get approved in 1 or 2 months like you are saying)

Yes agreed with you and others that have posted here regarding this topic...that certain applicants have to go thru some additional processing due to their history-maybe related to travel, personal history, etc- but thats just part and parcel of the process-cic needs to know you are good before they give you PR...that cant be helped..some examples from what i have seen-

-an applicant from pakistan,london vo, 9 pccs, 3 dependants got within 3 months(username wabz from march thread)
-two applicants(you can check them out) both from rome vo, both pnp..while one got PPR in 4 months approx while other is waiting (username carmaggedon from aug and petra2016 from july thread)

Both these cases debunks the western and non western country theory..the second case in particular would throw light on personal history, travels etc..

Every VO has KPIs as i mentioned earlier..just coz some vos process fast and some slow doesnt mean it doesnt get approved..

By the way, im no senior or anything- im just an applicant like yourself..thanks for being so kind :)

Good points raised..best wishes buddy!

BTW u made a point " SINP OID is the fastest"........... r u sure??
Coz at CIC stage this category is a paper based one and takes more than one year at average.
 

rafzy

Champion Member
Jan 31, 2015
2,676
495
lazybone said:
Regarding nocs-maybe you can find the link..it will help us all..i learn everyday from spending some time on the forum..but from personal experience during my application the IT/non IT applicants faced the same processing times more or less...i think it has more to do with the processing vo and the category you applied under..(sinp oid is the fastest that do get approved in 1 or 2 months like you are saying)

Yes agreed with you and others that have posted here regarding this topic...that certain applicants have to go thru some additional processing due to their history-maybe related to travel, personal history, etc- but thats just part and parcel of the process-cic needs to know you are good before they give you PR...that cant be helped..some examples from what i have seen-

-an applicant from pakistan,london vo, 9 pccs, 3 dependants got within 3 months(username wabz from march thread)
-two applicants(you can check them out) both from rome vo, both pnp..while one got PPR in 4 months approx while other is waiting (username carmaggedon from aug and petra2016 from july thread)

Both these cases debunks the western and non western country theory..the second case in particular would throw light on personal history, travels etc..

Every VO has KPIs as i mentioned earlier..just coz some vos process fast and some slow doesnt mean it doesnt get approved..

By the way, im no senior or anything- im just an applicant like yourself..thanks for being so kind :)

Good points raised..best wishes buddy!
perfect to the point ... +1 !
 

vensak

VIP Member
Jul 14, 2016
3,868
1,016
124
Category........
Visa Office......
Vienna
NOC Code......
1225
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
I was checking the trackers a bit (also we have way too small sample to confirm much. From what I see there, there is higher % of fast processing time for some VO than for others ( but then again, some of them have just 1 or 2 examples from which no statistics can be done properly).
It is not surprising that they have targets on certain professions (e.g. - BC PNP requires you to be from the top 100 wanted professions).
And they also have target on the intended settling place. And not only on the Provincial level but also on the municipal levels too. Some targets are made public. Like this one:

PNs contribute to the shared benefits of immigration in regions of Canada P

ercentage of PNs who settle that are retained outside of Toronto and Vancouver CMAs (excludes Quebec and QSWs) ≥ 90%

Calendar year 2015

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/publications/rpp/2015-2016/[/i]]http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/publications/rpp/2015-2016/

But others will be for sure internal targets to follow

From the cases in the Roma VO, it would be good to know nationality of the applicants. Because that one can trigger more extensive background check. Same like long term stay in some countries can trigger it as well.
And you have also count with how cooperative those countries are and how fast are they answering to Canada VO.
 

asmdnayeem

Full Member
Apr 19, 2014
26
0
Dear Raj,


I have submitted e-APR on 25th September. Status shows as Review of eligibility-Review in Progress & no additional document need at this time.

How long I have to wait for further progress. Should i contact with them. Do you have any contact mail. Need Advice.

With regards,

ASM.
 

rajkamalmohanram

VIP Member
Apr 29, 2015
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asmdnayeem said:
Dear Raj,


I have submitted e-APR on 25th September. Status shows as Review of eligibility-Review in Progress & no additional document need at this time.

How long I have to wait for further progress. Should i contact with them. Do you have any contact mail. Need Advice.

With regards,

ASM.
Review of eligibility will change only after your application is approved (Once you get your PPR and you submit PP to VO). If they need any further documentation from you (Schedule A/Travel history details etc), then "Review of submitted documents" will turn to "We need documents from you".

IRCC claims they process 80% of the applications within 6 months.

You might want to order GCMS notes to see the progress on your application.