Dennia said:
There are always 2 sides to an argument. I would like to know if there is anything you haven't done?(just being funny,don't get offended).
I've done quite a lot. I had a family to support from a young age, it tends to do wonders for work experience. Being young, I went into computers (as most jobs don't want to hire someone underage). My dad was unemployed for many years, so I worked to have skills good enough to ensure that I would never be unemployed. With a computer, you can learn from home, so I did not need to pay for equipment or teachers.
I'm good at what I do, and software is one of the few fields where you can do something once, and sell it many times.
This might be because of the people you might have been exposed too, I saw just the opposite when it comes to being competitive.Language is a challenge fr few but not fr everyone
That's why I was careful to indicate that it was simply my experience. Are you going to suggest that language and cultural difficulties don't make things harder?
I m just trying to make u understand tht standards of colleges and universities in Canada will drop substansialy if it is only funded by the Canadian govt.
They are funded by tuition, as well. As an example, I checked the
Douglas College Budget. The international department self-sustaining, and contributes 30% of total credit revenue to the school. That might sound like a lot, but it's really not. That extra revenue comes out to 30% of $21,800,000, or $6,500,000 a year. It's 5% of the $114,000,000 in revenue they have coming in, and a fraction of the $53,000,000 they are getting from the province.
In other words,
if they eliminated every single international student, they would lose only 5% of their revenue. They would also be able to get away with a much smaller building, and be able to downsize in ways that would reduce the overall cost, offsetting this partially.
but all i m tryin to prove is,it is already tough to get the best fr an employer.But when an international student turns out to be the best,the govt.should not force the employer to go through a 15page document that is done fr an candidate who has no credibility. An international student has already proved himself, by increasing his credibility through canadian education and adaptation skills to live in Canada.
I know how hard it is to hire employees. From a Canadian government standpoint, they don't want the
best candidate. They want the
best Canadian candidate, even if the foreign workers (or international students) are better. They only want immigrants where it's impossible to hire Canadians, and the LMIA process is designed to do just that.
There is always a Canadian who is willing to do anykind of work(most people I have seen r very hard workers at any age),but just lack analytical and technical skill.
Sure. That's why LMIAs require a transition plan. That's the "temporary" in "temporary foreign worker". Sometimes, things require advanced technical skill (certain technical things, biotechnology, etc.), or they require large amounts of temporary labour (seasonal work, jobs linked to the price of oil, etc.).
Mostly International students,have come to Canada(huge move @ a young age)
Canada doesn't care. It's about the Canadian workers, not the foreign workers. When I signed up to be an international student, I did so by agreeing that when my studies were over, if I had not achieved some other status I was going home. Someone who is rich pays a small amount to move here. Someone who is poor pays a huge amount to move here. Canada doesn't care about the cost either way, as you get exactly what you pay for - an education.
Some student have been successful in attaing these skills and getting a job offer
You see this as a good thing. The government of Canada sees this as a foreigner taking work away from a Canadian. As you said, you can find Canadians willing to do almost anything. For most (but not all) graduates, you can find unemployed people both willing and able. Why should Canada pay welfare to people who have no job because a foreign person is working there?
If you read through this forum, there are workers who are being paid less than the legal wage, and less than their LMIAs require. Many foreign workers are very motivated to come here, and are willing to work for less. This makes them more appealing to the employers, but it leaves Canadians trying to compete. That's not a good thing.
they deserve a fairer shot at an ITA and not be treated like a person who hasnt taken any risk at all (International people with LMIA come to Canada when they a good job offer only, there is nothin to lose fr them,but everything to lose fr an international student)[/b]
There is nothing to lose for the international student. If they pay to be a student, and they do their studies, they will get a degree. That's it. That's the deal.
The international worker (with a job offer) can be fired the day after he arrives, with no way to feed his family, stuck in a strange land. The student has to have proof of funds to even come.
Just like you even I love Canada, I dont know where u live, but in my case I have lived and worked up north,where u can experince the worst temperature,-50(Lynn Lake,Northern Manitoba), in BC (lived and worked), ON (studied,livied & worked) and NL (if u get a chance try out NL's winter). I do know many more international students who will go to any extreme to settle down in a good job after paying so much tution fees. All I am sayin is they desreve better shot because of their contribution. Treating them equally to a new international candidate, is just like comparing oranges and apples
Like you said, "
I do know many more international students who will go to any extreme to settle down in a good job after paying so much tution fees
". Desperate people are willing to do quite a lot to stay. Some face conscription back home. Others face persecution, or poor job prospects. This may make the difference between being stuck in a horrible caste system or freedom and a life of relative luxury for their families.
That's the problem. People like that aren't driving up wages, and they aren't nearly as likely to drive up the economy. Canada needs to focus on Canadians first, and international students have no right to expect special treatment. Speaking as one, I certainly don't.
I follow the rules, and try to be the person Canada wants to bring in. That's all any of us can do. Our plight does not make our immigration Canada's problem. There's a stream for that, and it's the refugee stream. There are a lot of people all over the world who would live better lives in Canada, and for Canada to keep it that way, it needs to limit and choose how much it opens up it's borders.
