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Re: Emergency Please: Common Law Form?

How would I contact the MP, or find which one to contact?

And if I decided, I would almost be okay with just going up there to stay while our app finishes, but I have a few days to decide. In those days I hope I can get information to decide what to do, because right now I am lost.
 

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Re: Emergency Please: Common Law Form?

gooh said:
How would I contact the MP, or find which one to contact?

And if I decided, I would almost be okay with just going up there to stay while our app finishes, but I have a few days to decide. In those days I hope I can get information to decide what to do, because right now I am lost.
Google your sponsor borough for example my partner lives in the martindale borough of the northeast of calgary, and once you type in MP "Sponsor borough" their office and contact details should pop up.
 

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jamsham12 said:
Google your sponsor borough for example my partner lives in the martindale borough of the northeast of calgary, and once you type in MP "Sponsor borough" their office and contact details should pop up.
I will do that and leave a message.

I just want to know why it was requested, I don't even know where to start on wondering why! What reason could there be? I'm so nervous that my application will be refused for whatever reason, something like this makes me completely ill with worry and nerves.
 

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gooh said:
How would I contact the MP, or find which one to contact?

And if I decided, I would almost be okay with just going up there to stay while our app finishes, but I have a few days to decide. In those days I hope I can get information to decide what to do, because right now I am lost.
Your fiance would contact his local MP, since he is one that is living in the riding of the MP. Or, he could possibly delegate the task to you, but the MP's office would probably need his information.

You can probably find the MP yourself, based on his current address.
 

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Re: Emergency Please: Common Law Form?

Thank you guys for your posts. If all else fails and I really do need this document, is it beyond reason to go up there and stay while we wait? I know one shouldn't assume with CIC, but our app is 7 months in, medicals have been received and everything was going as smooth as far as I knew.
 

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And, sorry again, does anyone know if it is doable for me to sign under a notary, send it to my fiance and have him do the same? I he lives in Ontario.
 

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gooh said:
And, sorry again, does anyone know if it is doable for me to sign under a notary, send it to my fiance and have him do the same? I he lives in Ontario.
Again, it depends on the laws of where you live, as well as Ontario.

His MP will at least be able to find out if it's really needed, since CIC seems to make more than their fair share of mistakes. If it really is required, perhaps they can tell you how best to proceed with getting it completed.
 

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Thank you Ponga.
 

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Any more info from veteran members? Thank you again.
 

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Re: Emergency Please: Common Law Form?

For what it's worth, last time I questioned a document request via reply email, I got a response back within an hour. I think you'll likely hear something from them on Monday. I'm not sure how much help an MP would be for a couple more weeks. Remember that they are in a state of transition right now with the election and all. We contacted our former MP a week before the election and the new one a few days after and have heard nothing. If your spouse's district got a new MP, they won't be able to do anything until they are sworn in anyway so far as I know. If you don't hear anything within a week or so, I'd seriously consider going ahead with your move to Canada. I think you are very close to a DM based on the info I've seen you post in the other threads. If you've been crossing the border with relative ease up until now, you will probably be ok this time too. Just take caution with the amount of goods you bring with you.
 

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Re: Emergency Please: Common Law Form?

Thank you again, I really appreciate it, honestly. This is so frustrating that we are so close and then they cause last second delay with a (mistaken) document.

Yeah, if I don't hear anything within the week, and I get no clarification on if we can just mail the document to each other to be notarized, I think I'll go ahead with our move. We've been itching to be back together now, and maybe this is a chance in disguise to just go ahead and hop up there. Again, I'd be with my family of at least 3 so I don't think the luggage would be a problem (and all I really have is clothing). And my last entry into Canada was back in June for 2 weeks.

I'll just tell them I'm visiting my fiance with family for, what, should I say a week or so?
 

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What do you judge are my odds they'll agree it was a mix up and fix it, continuing with my app with minimal delay? I know CIC is known to make small AND big mess ups with apps, but this seems very small to me. The doc wasn't even apart of the PR paperwork (It was part of the Sponsor's, and only if there was a co-signer) and they don't doubt our common-law relationship, otherwise they'd be asking simply for proof of relationship.

Would I be crazy to be optimistic?
 

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Re: Emergency Please: Common Law Form?

gooh said:
What do you judge are my odds they'll agree it was a mix up and fix it, continuing with my app with minimal delay? I know CIC is known to make small AND big mess ups with apps, but this seems very small to me. The doc wasn't even apart of the PR paperwork (It was part of the Sponsor's, and only if there was a co-signer) and they don't doubt our common-law relationship, otherwise they'd be asking simply for proof of relationship.

Would I be crazy to be optimistic?
I've been a member of the forum less time than even you, but my opinion is that it's likely an oversight on their part.

If I were you, I'd do the following in order:

- Reply to CIC email (like you did), making the CIC aware of the mixup.

- Have my partner contact their local MP in Canada by stopping by their office. Yep. I'd have my partner go in their office asking for their help and avoiding any potential email delays. Even though I emailed the CIC, I'd like to be sure I have two people working on an answer. In the worst case scenario that the MP is not yet sworn in, I'd go in search of the next nearest MP who was re-elected and plead my case/beg for their help.

- While I'm waiting for CIC email reply and my MP to contact the CIC, I find out the rules about notaries in my partner's province. This way, I know if I can sign a form in front of a notary in the US, overnight it to Canada, have my partner sign it in front of a notary in Canada, and either email it or overnight it to Ottawa. Someone knows the answer. Again, I'd be taking my lunch break to head to a bank with notary, city hall, etc. where someone would know the answer. Either way: I'm waiting 1 business week before I move on from waiting for the CIC or MP's response to taking matters into my own hands.

- If CIC or MP doesn't respond (after a week) OR says I do need the paper, then I hope that I can not be present in Canada to have paper notarized. If I can do my part in the US and send it to Canada, I do that, overnighting my paperwork to my partner in Canada, who then sends it to Ottawa either by email (if they say I can in the original email), or again by overnight, certified courier.

- If I do have to be present because the CIC and/or MP have confirmed it, I fly to Canada and I say that I'm coming in to Canada for the notarization. I'd have the CIC email printed out with me to show to the custom's agent/border security that I'm here to get my application squared away, and I know full-well what happens if I abuse my stay. I'd also be totally transparent about what happened last time, and say the reason I left was because I knew that if I didn't, my application could be denied.

Additionally, I'd personally go ahead and remain in Canada. For all intents and purposes, I would "move," though I'd be adamant to say I was visiting to anyone who asked. I genuinely think your application is 3 months away MAX from approval. Realistically, I think you're closer to DM than even that, but I don't want to be the person who leads you astray based on gut-feelings. I have zero hard evidence to make that assumption.

If you want to be extra cautious that you'll be admitted in to Canada, I'd buy a refundable return ticket. You flying up there would be my absolute last resort and only something I'd do once I had confirmation that I needed that form.

This is purely what my game plan would be. Ultimately, it's your decision, but sometimes hearing others' thought processes can help us come to decide our own.

The best of luck. Let us know what happens, or if there's anything I/we can do to help!
 

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Thank you very much Ineffable, that was very thorough and I've pretty much done everything I can except have my fiance go up to his MP's office, we'll look into that tomorrow. I'll keep everyone updated.
 

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Re: Emergency Please: Common Law Form?

gooh said:
And, sorry again, does anyone know if it is doable for me to sign under a notary, send it to my fiance and have him do the same? I he lives in Ontario.
Yes, you can get it notarized where you live, then send it to him and he can get it notarized where he lives.

You can also go up to visit him and stay until the application is finished processing. Americans don't usually have any problem, but bring proof of your ties to the States with you, and proof your PR application is being processed. Be sure to be clear that you are just visiting when talking to the border official.

There is probably no reason specific to your application that made them request this document. Some visa officers want it, even though it clearly states on the forms you don't need it; other visa officers do not request it. It might be because you have been apart for a while. Still, you have clearly established common law status, and have lots of proof of the genuineness of your relationship. Just send it in, and it should be OK.