Effective date of Bill C24

[ohms]

my friends and I have called CIC call centre several times, and always received the June 19 answer. however, today my friend was told by the agent: "we were given the 19th of June as the effective date, however it is tentative/not confirmed"
not sure if this means anything...

 

[dpenabill]

my friends and I have called CIC call centre several times, and always received the June 19 answer. however, today my friend was told by the agent: "we were given the 19th of June as the effective date, however it is tentative/not confirmed"
not sure if this means anything...

It means what many have been saying: the actual date the revised provisions will come into force is not publicly known, and probably is not definitively known by any more than a small circle of individuals close to the PM and, possibly, at the top of the CIC hierarchy.

As of today, April 24, we know that the Governor in Council has not made the order fixing the date the new provisions come into force (per Parliament web site updated as of today).

Beyond that, the news could come any day now, literally, any day. My office pool bet, for June 1st, is less and less among the favourites touted by others. July 1st appears to be looming ever larger as the favourite. A lot are putting money on June 19th but that really seems like a long shot among long shots to me.

As for reading the tea leaves, mine dried out and it is past tea time here for the day, so perhaps next week we'll have another look, or perhaps try rolling some dice.

 

[MUFC]

Please people don't waste your time asking that information from the call centre clerks. They don't know.

I also realized that the real cut off date will not jump out from the call centre.

Follow only the official statements with official confirmed information.

 

[ari5323]

My guess is july first.
for the following reasons:
1. canadian day is the right day to make changes to the citizenship law.
2. Its close to election, and the PM wants his voters should remember this on the election day.

P.S
my application date is june 19, lets keep the fingers crossed.
thank you Mr. Dpenabill for you great effort to clarify for us the law stuf.

 

[valigap31]

Why they don't publish the effective date ??

 

[CanadianCountry]

Because if they publish it, it will no longer be a mystery.

Why they don't publish the effective date ??

 

[screech339]

Why they don't publish the effective date ??

Because they probably don't want a flood of applications submitted at last minute. That aside, the changes needed to implement takes time and the one year approx is the given timeline for CIC to complete all the changes. The government cannot give a firm fix date until CIC has finished the changes. So until CIC finished the changes, only then will they be able to give the date.

 

[na123]

In the next 6-8 weeks sometime around the middle of June we will probably know the date.

Anyway I think that everybody who could apply after August 1st has probably lost hope that they will be able to apply under the old law and no longer following this law closely, and since everybody until April has already been able to apply, it means only May, June, July applicants probably think they still have a good chance to make it and are the ones being stressed out with the July applicants being the ones stressed out the most.

 

[MUFC]

I don't think that those of you guys who will apply in May and June have a reason to be worried about.
May and June applicants have a great chance to apply under the old rules.

 

[CanadianCountry]

If CIC is withholding the implementation date to prevent flooding of applications, then they will give not more than 1 day notice.

Personally i feel they will reveal the date on the date of implementation or after implementing it.

I don't think that those of you guys who will apply in May and June have a reason to be worried about.
May and June applicants have a great chance to apply under the old rules.

 

[screech339]

If CIC is withholding the implementation date to prevent flooding of applications, then they will give not more than 1 day notice.

Personally i feel they will reveal the date on the date of implementation or after implementing it.

It would be unfair to the applicants that mail their application under the old rule only to have it return by CIC because mail arrived to CIC under the new rule.

1 - 2 weeks notice is enough to give everyone time to get their application mailed in time before the deadline.

 

[MUFC]

I also used to think that they might hold the date unknown until the very last moment, but I've changed my mind after the reminder and the 1 month comment period published in the Gazette back in Mid-March.

There will be enough notice in advance.

The changes are really big and complex and I don't think they will be ready before July.

All these changes involve New IT implementations, Training, Waiting for the new legal authority which will give CIC the chance to share personal info, Establishing new Info channels between CBSA, CRA, CIC... The list is goes on and on...

On top of that there are parts of that Bill which are expected to come in force before the major portion, For example The new authority to revoke the Canadian citizenship.

They are not ready yet.

The changes are more complex because of the fact that not only CIC as institution is involved.

That's the reason why there is still no official date, Month and season.

These huge changes needs time.

 

[screech339]

I also used to think that they might hold the date unknown until the very last moment, but I've changed my mind after the reminder and the 1 month comment period published in the Gazette back in Mid-March.

There will be enough notice in advance.

The changes are really big and complex and I don't think they will be ready before July.

All these changes involve New IT implementations, Training, Waiting for the new legal authority which will give CIC the chance to share personal info, Establishing new Info channels between CBSA, CRA, CIC... The list is goes on and on...

On top of that there are parts of that Bill which are expected to come in force before the major portion, For example The new authority to revoke the Canadian citizenship.

They are not ready yet.

The changes are more complex because of the fact that not only CIC as institution is involved.

That's the reason why there is still no official date, Month and season.

These huge changes needs time.

That is why they were given about a year to complete the changes.

 

[neutral]

It will take effect on 19th June, 2015.

Is that guess coming again from "informed" call centre clerk? Why you guys keep on wasting time calling those people. They keep on saying different months and dates.

It was the date the Minister said in a interview.

 

[MUFC]

And where is the interview that he is saying any date?

I'm sure that no link will be provided from an interview where he is mentioning any date but give it a try