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Effective date of Bill C24

SinghLovCan

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What will the forms look like? What documents they will request and will RQ be still a part of the process.
 

MUFC

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This is the main problem with all the speculations around this law.

There is no guide,
no technical details,
no information about the new forms or documents
some of the clauses create confusion when the official government bodies read them,
No cut off date

The months are passing by and still nobody can give official information.
 

SinghLovCan

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Maybe they won't implement it by that date then :)
 

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MUFC said:
I hope that they can implement it as soon as possible because the applications will be processed faster for everybody.
The new single-step decision making model is already in force. The Citizenship Regulations has been amended to support the implementation of the amendments contained in Bill C-24. (http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2014/2014-08-13/html/sor-dors186-eng.php) Section 11 of the former Regulations deals with citizenship judge referrals by the citizenship officer. If you look here - http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-93-246/page-8.html#h-6 - Section 11 has been repealed.

You can see a list of amendments to the Citizenship Act that are not yet in force here - http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-29/nifnev.html.
 

MUFC

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Yes correct , now lets hope that all the people will feel the changes.

This is maybe the most difficult structural change which is already enforced.

Then why they still procrastinate the rest of the clauses which are way easier to be enforced?
 

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May I ask what could be the reason for your eagerness for full implementation of the law?

MUFC said:
Yes correct , now lets hope that all the people will feel the changes.

This is maybe the most difficult structural change which is already enforced.

Then why they still procrastinate the rest of the clauses which are way easier to be enforced?
 

MUFC

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My personal issue is why whey still refuse to say the real cut of date for the new residency requirement officially, without any room for speculation, because I have big travel plans for next summer and I can make my program easily if I know the real date.

If I buy the tickets as early as possible I will save more money... basically if they say finally what the date will be I will safe money.

The thing I don't understand is that, they were so determinant to cut off the fraud with the applicants who were using the gaps in the current law, they even made the impossible to make the bill a law in such small time frame and they did already the hardest structural administrative change, but everything else is still the same concerning the requirements which the candidates have to fulfill...

If they were so determinant to cut off the fraud and the most difficult aspects are already done about the administrative changes, then why the rest of the law is still waiting on hold.

If they implement all the bill then the fraud levels will drop dramatically.
 

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Have you applied or are eligible to apply right now? From your response it seems you haven't. When would you accumulate 1095 days?

MUFC said:
My personal issue is why whey still refuse to say the real cut of date for the new residency requirement officially, without any room for speculation, because I have big travel plans for next summer and I can make my program easily if I know the real date.

If I buy the tickets as early as possible I will save more money... basically if they say finally what the date will be I will safe money.

The thing I don't understand is that, they were so determinant to cut off the fraud with the applicants who were using the gaps in the current law, they even made the impossible to make the bill a law in such small time frame and they did already the hardest structural administrative change, but everything else is still the same concerning the requirements which the candidates have to fulfill...

If they were so determinant to cut off the fraud and the most difficult aspects are already done about the administrative changes, then why the rest of the law is still waiting on hold.

If they implement all the bill then the fraud levels will drop dramatically.
 

MUFC

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I will be eligible to apply at the end of June and I called CIC many times and I've spoke with immigration lawyers and my impression from this meetings in general is that my application will be processed according to the current old law if I apply before Canada Day 2015.

But I want to see the cut off date officially in order to make my plan
 

SinghLovCan

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Is there any benefit in applying with the old rule vs the new rule?
 

MUFC

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The only concern you might have is if somehow the size of the backlog influence the processing time and the speed of the agent who will process your file.

In both scenarios you will be citizen 2016

In my case if I apply according to the old law I will save a lot of money.
 

CanadianCountry

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Anybody who wants to apply should apply as soon as possible, in my opinion. There is no value in prognosticating what ifs regarding old vs new rules.

Benefit under both rules is you get citizenship!!! :)

SinghLovCan said:
Is there any benefit in applying with the old rule vs the new rule?
 

MUFC

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The main purpose of the new law is to stop the fraud if the applicants are trying to commit one.

In both cases you will get the very same passport.
 

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I can according to the 3/4 rules, starting 31st May 2015

Originally I planned to wait for a few more months and apply sometime in summer 2015 in order to avoid any potential RQ

Because the rules might change, it seems that I need to apply before June 19th. Would applying with a small number of days after 1095 automatically means I am going to get RQ?

Also I was planning on taking 1-2 weeks vacation this Winter. Even so I should be eligible by June 19th. What is the chance they are going to change the rules before that? Also is applying after 1110 days would be significantly better than applying after 1100 days?


Some reasons I would like to apply for the Canadian citizenship sooner rather than waiting for new rules:
- I want to be able to participate in the elections (federal/provincial/municipal)
- It seems that currently new applications (even with RQ) are processed rather fast. With new rules and maybe new government/minister after the 2015 election the process might slow down significantly
- In 2016 I would have to renew my original passport and different travel visas, which I wouldn't be doing if I can get the Canadian citizenship

Reasons I would wait:
- Basically, don't want to get an RQ and wait for several years to resolve that
 

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so guys, the new rule which will be effective by mid 2015 will affect all applicant after this day of what?
- are already in Canada with PR not completing period?
- people who are applying for immigration and received there PR visa before mid 2015?