Effective date of Bill C24

[ZingyDNA]

So what practical benefits will a person who already poses a passport with the same perks will get by becoming Canadian?

I assume you have a passport from one of the first world countries, like UK, Germany, Australia etc? Then the only advantage of a Canadian passport (as opposed to just being PR) is it allows you to work in the US with a TN visa under NAFTA. Obviously that point is moot if you have a US passport already

Well, the other thing is as a PR you have to meet residency obligation while you can't lose your citizenship by being outside of Canada for a long time. This is irrelevant if you're permanently settled in Canada, though.

 

[screech339]

I assume you have a passport from one of the first world countries, like UK, Germany, Australia etc? Then the only advantage of a Canadian passport (as opposed to just being PR) is it allows you to work in the US with a TN visa under NAFTA. Obviously that point is moot if you have a US passport already

If I'm not mistaken, I think he is from US, thus has a US passport.

 

[ZingyDNA]

If I'm not mistaken, I think he is from US, thus has a US passport.

Then I can understand why he's not in a rush to get a Canadian passport.

 

[2_of_5]

Then I can understand why he's not in a rush to get a Canadian passport.

I have a US passport and I'm in a terrible rush to get my Canadian citizenship. If the 4 of 6 requirements take effect at the end of June, I will miss the cutoff by a few days because of some days I spent visiting family in the US. If that is the case, I will have to wait two more years because of being stripped of my pre-PR time.

The problem is, I want to renounce my US citizenship ASAP because of FATCA and for political reasons. Because of the increase in renunciations, the US government has raised the cost of renunciations from FREE in 2011 to $450, then to $2300 last September. They are attempting to erect a virtual Berlin Wall to keep Americans in and under their control.

Who knows what the cost will be by 2017-2018 if I have to wait to get my Canadian citizenship? Maybe it will be $10,000 or even $20,000? What do I do then? I refuse to be an American any longer than I have to.

A US passport today is not the 'holy grail' of passports, it's a terrible, stress-inducing burden if you live outside the boundaries of the US.

 

[YorkFactory]

A US passport today is not the 'holy grail' of passports, it's a terrible, stress-inducing burden if you live outside the boundaries of the US.

Like hell it is. The U.S. has its problems, but you're fooling yourself if you don't think millions of people wish they were U.S. citizens.

Your U.S. citizenship is not oppressing you, and it would be better if less than every single post you make here were based on that false premise.

 

[ZingyDNA]

Like hell it is. The U.S. has its problems, but you're fooling yourself if you don't think millions of people wish they were U.S. citizens.

Your U.S. citizenship is not oppressing you, and it would be better if less than every single post you make here were based on that false premise.

The first half of your post is definitely true. I'd be lying if I say I wouldn't trade my passport for 2_of_5's in a heartbeat

For the 2nd half of your post, maybe not "oppressing" but I heard the IRS chase their citizens all over the world to get taxes, so some Americans overseas wanna get rid of that burden by giving up their citizenship. I thought that's the case only for very rich Americans overseas, though.

 

[screech339]

The problem with FATCA is that it became overreaching beyond their intended purpose. Also any joint account American has with Canadian / PR spouse, all accounts in spouse must also be reported, even non-joint accounts since the spouse can "hide" the money in the other accounts from IRS. As long as the American has a joint account, all non joint account can be accessible since the spouse can move money over to joint account.

Screech339

 

[MUFC]

I also renounced my US citizenship, because I refuse to pay taxes all my live just because I have American citizenship, nevertheless that I am not living in US.

Today there is not big difference in the standard of living in the top first class countries. The passport of these countries is giving pretty much the same perks compared to the others top class countries.

 

[MUFC]

Hi ,
I came across this short video regarding the cut off date for 3/4 years and the start of 4/6 years requirement .
Please check it in this link :

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=367578673423787&set=vb.272948759553446&type=3&video_source=pages_video_set

I feel so frustrated because I will be short of just a couple of days .

Please be hurry , do not postpone your applications and do apply immediately once you became qualified .
Good luck to all

How do you know that you'll be short, when the implementation date is not clear from that video?
Actually is that footage a new or old one?

 

[jazibkg]

No, it's an added measure to screen out those people who are seeking to gain citizenship for their own convenience, and have no desire to live in, or contribute to, Canada. you just seem to be bitter that they are making it a bit harder for you to do exactly that.

No what I meant was, who knows where life will take you next? Nobody wants to be bound. Western countries pride themselves about 'freedom'. If that is lost, then what's the point? What I meant was it doesn't make any sense to me (and how exactly can this be implemented, seems impractical).

 

[jazibkg]

So what practical benefits will a person who already poses a passport with the same perks will get by becoming Canadian?

Jobs with government and the public sector usually only hire Canadian citizens. If your occupation is an economist, statistician, public planner, tax auditor and such, being Canadian means you'll get consideration for those jobs. If you're politically motivated, you can run for office and such. You no longer have to worry about the 2 years within 5 years in Canada rule.

If you have a first world passport already, other than these, not much to be honest.

 

[MUFC]

In my case I realize that working for yourself gives me better standard of living, compared to working for somebody else and getting the money by check. I am not fighting to get any conventional work position... I just refuse to waste 8 hours of my day working to make somebody else rich.

So recently I realized that really there is absolutely no real and practical benefit for me when I get the Canadian citizenship.

 

[oldfriend]

How do you know that you'll be short, when the implementation date is not clear from that video?
Actually is that footage a new or old one?

In the video Chris has mentioned it twice " June 2015" and "summer 2015" as the dates when the new residency requirement will be applied.
I guess he gives a clue about either of the dates June 19 2015 or July 1 2015. This is my personal opinion based on that this bill got its royal approval on June 19 2014 , and from the previous experience here in Canada , the bills are put in force after a year from the approval date.

Regarding the date of this video , I don't know exactly when it took place , but do you think that the date of the video can change any thing in this case ?

 

[torontosm]

No what I meant was, who knows where life will take you next? Nobody wants to be bound. Western countries pride themselves about 'freedom'. If that is lost, then what's the point? What I meant was it doesn't make any sense to me (and how exactly can this be implemented, seems impractical).

You are not bound in any way. Once you become a citizen, you are free to move anywhere at any time, without any restrictions or limitations. So, in effect, this clause has been blown way out of proportion by people who are unhappy about other changes introduced by C-24

 

[nadeem55]

June 2015 and summer 2015 (which is Jun 21 to Sep 23) could be any date if he's mentioning Summer 2015, I hope this will help

In the video Chris has mentioned it twice " June 2015" and "summer 2015" as the dates when the new residency requirement will be applied.
I guess he gives a clue about either of the dates June 19 2015 or July 1 2015. This is my personal opinion based on that this bill got its royal approval on June 19 2014 , and from the previous experience here in Canada , the bills are put in force after a year from the approval date.

Regarding the date of this video , I don't know exactly when it took place , but do you think that the date of the video can change any thing in this case ?