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Devone2022

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I got invite when I just included my application,is that ok to go unaccompanied even though spouse is in Canada or ignore NOI
 
Oct 22, 2018
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Hello all,
I need suggestions applying for PR.
This is my case
I am married currently in canada with pgwp extended to next year October.
My wife is also with me in canada on sowp valid until end of this year.still need to apply for extension to match mine
I have 2 yrs of Canadian experience and my pr points including spouse are 464 and without her are 497. I don't think they are going to take a draw with 464 anytime soon
Can I first apply without including her and then sponsor her once I get my pr?
Any advises suggestions....

Anyone tried it recently and outcomes?
Thanks
Could you please share your outcome? Did you eventually get your PR and your spouse too?
 
Aug 22, 2024
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Hello Everyone,
I got married in Dec 2023 in India and applied my PR application in March 2023 with 512 points (not accompanying spouse). I have also applied for her spousal open work permit in April 2024 which got approved in June 2024. Now she is coming to Canada, and I have recived my ITA in July 2024. IRCC is asking for a reason to non accompanying your wife. I am really worried as I did not expect this as I assumed I will sponsor her later as I did not wanted to reduce my score. Should I reject my ITA and file new application combined or what? please advise.
 

iSaidGoodDay

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Hello Everyone,
I got married in Dec 2023 in India and applied my PR application in March 2023 with 512 points (not accompanying spouse). I have also applied for her spousal open work permit in April 2024 which got approved in June 2024. Now she is coming to Canada, and I have recived my ITA in July 2024. IRCC is asking for a reason to non accompanying your wife. I am really worried as I did not expect this as I assumed I will sponsor her later as I did not wanted to reduce my score. Should I reject my ITA and file new application combined or what? please advise.
You are not supposed to list your spouse non-accompanying just to gain competitive scores. The fact that your wife is coming here on SOWP is a big red flag. Hire a lawyer now. This is beyond DIY space of forum. FYI - gaming CRS with "non-accompany" isn't a very respectful thing to do, it mocks thousands of other EE applicants who stayed ethical and were rightfully deserving.
 
Aug 22, 2024
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You are not supposed to list your spouse non-accompanying just to gain competitive scores. The fact that your wife is coming here on SOWP is a big red flag. Hire a lawyer now. This is beyond DIY space of forum. FYI - gaming CRS with "non-accompany" isn't a very respectful thing to do, it mocks thousands of other EE applicants who stayed ethical and were rightfully deserving.
Thank you for your response.
I believe it is a genuine thing, accompanying spouse not only reduce points (which is not gifted it is something I earned over the years) but also it adds up the cost, documents and extra efforts. I did not hide from IRCC the fact about my marriage her profile was evaluated during the SOWP. When I applied for SOWP my PR file was already in the pool (I believe officer will definitely know that). Also, I believe it is not unfaithful practice to decide to apply for a PR for spouse when we both are prepared in terms everything.
Even now I believe I should have included her during my application as our score was still eligible to get an ITA in the last draw.
Also, I consulted 1st lawyer he concluded the same thing and gave me the above response.
I am still ok to decline my invitation if required to and apply fresh. But I want to take decision statiscally and not emotionally.
 

CNP

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Oct 26, 2018
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Thank you for your response.
I believe it is a genuine thing, accompanying spouse not only reduce points (which is not gifted it is something I earned over the years) but also it adds up the cost, documents and extra efforts. I did not hide from IRCC the fact about my marriage her profile was evaluated during the SOWP. When I applied for SOWP my PR file was already in the pool (I believe officer will definitely know that). Also, I believe it is not unfaithful practice to decide to apply for a PR for spouse when we both are prepared in terms everything.
Even now I believe I should have included her during my application as our score was still eligible to get an ITA in the last draw.
Also, I consulted 1st lawyer he concluded the same thing and gave me the above response.
I am still ok to decline my invitation if required to and apply fresh. But I want to take decision statiscally and not emotionally.
I am not an expert here, but even withdrawal of application at this stage where you specified spouse as non accompanying and then applied for SOWP, could raise concerns to IRCC ( I am even doubtful that they will allow you to withdraw now).

You did everything right in terms of process, but ethically it is sort of exploiting a system where the law is not very clear around stating the spouse as non accompanying just to boost up the score. Plus the things were complicated with SOWP application.

Possibly you could have just directly applied for spousal sponsorship. As stated, a lawyer would be more helpful that to reply on replies on this forum.

EDIT - you dates seems to be bit confusing - I got married in Dec 2023 in India and applied my PR application in March 2023 , but you also mentioned that you received ITA in July 2024 ?? SOWP was approved before you received ITA ? When did you receive ITA exactly and when did you receive the query from IRCC?
 
Aug 22, 2024
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Sorry my bad
Got married in Dec 2023
PR application in March 2024
SOWP in April 2024
ITA July end 2024
While filling the information of ITA, there is a section to answer why you dont want to accompany your spouse.
I haven't accepted my ITA yet.
No checklist as well
I am not relying on this forum, i am meeting lawyers simultaneously but every lawyer is having different answers. Hence hoping someone who has gone through same process could answer better.
 

CNP

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Oct 26, 2018
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Sorry my bad
Got married in Dec 2023
PR application in March 2024
SOWP in April 2024
ITA July end 2024
While filling the information of ITA, there is a section to answer why you dont want to accompany your spouse.
I haven't accepted my ITA yet.
No checklist as well
I am not relying on this forum, i am meeting lawyers simultaneously but every lawyer is having different answers. Hence hoping someone who has gone through same process could answer better.
ah okay, I was wrong then. You havent even submitted your application yet. I thought you accepted ITA and submitted you application to IRCC at which IRCC sent some communication for you to explain reason for non accompanying.

"While filling the information of ITA, there is a section to answer why you dont want to accompany your spouse" - this was unheard of. Can you paste what actually is being asked for ?

Ideally since your spouse is approved for SOWP and would be travelling to Canada, wont you prefer to list as accompanying ? Sponsoring would take more time.
 
Aug 22, 2024
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ah okay, I was wrong then. You havent even submitted your application yet. I thought you accepted ITA and submitted you application to IRCC at which IRCC sent some communication for you to explain reason for non accompanying.

"While filling the information of ITA, there is a section to answer why you dont want to accompany your spouse" - this was unheard of. Can you paste what actually is being asked for ?

Ideally since your spouse is approved for SOWP and would be travelling to Canada, wont you prefer to list as accompanying ? Sponsoring would take more time.
Hey,

The question/section is
Reason for not accompanying your spouse?
And later a blank to fill-up the details.
Also they are asking for the UCI number and her background details.

I cannot list her accompanying her now as that will decrease my points and my application would be rejected
1 Lawyer advised me to mention the reason as
As spouse SOWP was approved, I didnot ask for ger PR as she was already on temporary visa.
Is it ok if we can connect.
anirudhjhudele@gmail.com. (myemail).