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Hi All,

As you know one gets extra points for adaptability if s/he has a close family member who is settled in Canada.
Can somebody please share list of documents required to prove following two things:

1. Your relationship with the family member
2. To prove that the person is actually staying in Canada

Also, is there any minimum duration for which the family member should have stayed in Canada before the points are claimed

Thanks,
 

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If they're a citizen - a copy of their passport. If they're a resident, a copy of their PR card. And a trail of birth certs to show how you're related to them.
you can get a copy of their lease, or a bill in their name to their address or a copy of their work contract, whatever they're comfortable giving you to show they reside in Canada.
 

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Thanks. My relatives are resident (PR through FSWP). So, I think passport copy with resident permit and copy of lease / rental agreement should work.
 

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CanadaItIs said:
Hi All,

As you know one gets extra points for adaptability if s/he has a close family member who is settled in Canada.
Can somebody please share list of documents required to prove following two things:

1. Your relationship with the family member
2. To prove that the person is actually staying in Canada

Also, is there any minimum duration for which the family member should have stayed in Canada before the points are claimed

Thanks,
Sorry, I don't have an answer to your question but I just wanted tell you I like your username! That's exactly what my husband and I said after choosing Canada over Australia for immigration :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D
 

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CanadaItIs said:
Hi All,

As you know one gets extra points for adaptability if s/he has a close family member who is settled in Canada.
Can somebody please share list of documents required to prove following two things:

1. Your relationship with the family member
2. To prove that the person is actually staying in Canada

Also, is there any minimum duration for which the family member should have stayed in Canada before the points are claimed

Thanks,
Passport/PR visa copy
Rental contract on their name
Health insurance cards
Driving liscence cards
Official work visit card
Birth certificates
Lastly, tax return forms and bank account statements on there name
 

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Please correct me if I wrong.. but as per my understanding, in express entry, one doesn't get points for have a family member settled in Canada.. points for adaptability which were given in FSWP program are no more given in CRS system.
 

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AgentC said:
Please correct me if I wrong.. but as per my understanding, in express entry, one doesn't get points for have a family member settled in Canada.. points for adaptability which were given in FSWP program are no more given in CRS system.
Correct. You dont get any adabtability points under EE system.
 

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rafzy said:
Correct. You dont get any adabtability points under EE system.
Hi Rafz/Other Members

I have a quetion. I have relative in Canada. Canadian Citizen. He is my maternal uncle. He has sent me his address, passport copy and can send tax returns as-well.

The problem is he has his birth certificate, but, my mother doesn't have one so the I cannot proof throgh this.

However, my uncle has his marriage certificate. My mother has her marriage certificate. Both certificate mention the name of their father. Would marriage certificate suffice in absence of birth certificate?

Please do let me know. If not, I will remove from my profile that I have a relative in Canada.

I'll wait for your replies.
 

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Is your grandfather's name written on your mother's passport?

As long as you can prove:
Relationship between you and your mother (your Birthcertificate or passport relationship page, if applicable)
Relationship between your mother and her brother (somehow both share atleast one parent)

If I were you, I would submit the marriage certificate with a letter of explanation... telling them that she doesn't have a BC because not needed at her time of birth in her country or whatever the reason, but her marriage certificate has the father's name...
You won't lose points either way...

Just make sure you still have enough adaptability points without the relationship, just incase (1%) chance that they don't accept it..
Though honestly, they should accept it, as long as its a legal document stating the relationship..
 

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EFK said:
Is your grandfather's name written on your mother's passport?

As long as you can prove:
Relationship between you and your mother (your Birthcertificate or passport relationship page, if applicable)
Relationship between your mother and her brother (somehow both share atleast one parent)

If I were you, I would submit the marriage certificate with a letter of explanation... telling them that she doesn't have a BC because not needed at her time of birth in her country or whatever the reason, but her marriage certificate has the father's name...
You won't lose points either way...

Just make sure you still have enough adaptability points without the relationship, just incase (1%) chance that they don't accept it..
Though honestly, they should accept it, as long as its a legal document stating the relationship..
EFK,

Thanks for the reply.

Well, let me check my mother's passport. Ideally, it should be having. I will check and let you know. Because then the case is simple and clear.

But I can say for sure that I cannot manage the birth certificate of my mother. My uncle has it. But my mother doesn't.

If I don't get the grandparent's name on the passport as-well, do you think I should remove my relative from the application or should I keep i there as my grandparent's (i.e mother/uncle father's) name is appearing on marriage certificate.

I have CRS 440 already. The relationship wouldn't give me any point on the CRS anyway.

What do you suggest?
 

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Incase it is not in the passport, I would keep the marriage certificate and explain it in LOE..
Parents name on passport depends on nationality.. from what I have seen, Indian passports have it and Pakistani do not... not sure about other nationalities...

Good luck
 

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EFK said:
Incase it is not in the passport, I would keep the marriage certificate and explain it in LOE..
Parents name on passport depends on nationality.. from what I have seen, Indian passports have it and Pakistani do not... not sure about other nationalities...

Good luck
Thanks EFK,

You are correct. I am from Pakistan and they do not mention the name.

So, I will keep the marriage certificate as a back-up and keep the fact stated in my profile about my relative.

One last question. May I request you to please give me link of a post/thread in which there are format for LOE? Maybe a MS Word formal format that I can follow.

Regards,
Sameer Ansari
 

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I'm not sure if there is any specific format... or a thread where someone made a format.. I just wrote it the way I would usually write a business letter... for exp in your case:

To: Citizenship and Immigration Canada

Dear Sir/Madam,

In order to prove my relationship with my relative in Canada (my maternal uncle), please find attached the following documents:
1 - My birth certificate, showing my mother's name (mention her name here)
2 - My mother's marriage certificate, proving her father's name (mention your grandfather's name here).
3 - My uncle's birth certificate, also mentioning his father's name, therefore proving that my mother and MR. (uncle's name) are real siblings.

Please note that, due to the fact that there was no requirement to issue Birth certificate in Pakistan during the time of my mother's birth, my mother does not have this document. As a result, the only proof of father's name that is available is in the form of her marriage certificate. Therefore, I kindly request that you consider this legal document as proof of relationship.


Something like that should be enough.. and then you can sign it...
Others may be able to advise further... but this is what I would do..

You had mentioned that the score is 440... is your IELTS maximum? I would suggest to wait for next ITA, and if scores are still not going below 450 (there is 50-50 chance that it may go down), then maybe you can redo IELTS to make sure it is above 450...