Delivered on Oct 13 still no AOR

[irnbru16]

Yes I do! what is your point?

So you do have a right to work, unless you're in industry which employs only Canadian passport holders.

 

[Redfield]

Okay, this is not about hysteria, CIC has lost a bunch of files and they are not processing them. I even called my federal representative, he had his office call CIC and request information about my application. So CIC told him obviously that they might have lost the application and that they'll start a request for information with the Sydney office, basically they requested from Sydney that they find the file that they misplaced, but in this case they didn't misplace 1 but dozens. The process will supposedly take 10 days so yeah, stop asking people to wait indefinitely for their AOR, if it's been more than 8 weeks that your application was received, you should call CIC and request that your file be retrieved.

 

[lpc19800]

Okay, this is not about hysteria, CIC has lost a bunch of files and they are not processing them. I even called my federal representative, he had his office call CIC and request information about my application. So CIC told him obviously that they might have lost the application and that they'll start a request for information with the Sydney office, basically they requested from Sydney that they find the file that they misplaced, but in this case they didn't misplace 1 but dozens. The process will supposedly take 10 days so yeah, stop asking people to wait indefinitely for their AOR, if it's been more than 8 weeks that your application was received, you should call CIC and request that your file be retrieved.

So - CIC said they've lost dozens of files?
Sorry but you are enabling the hysteria by saying such things.
You called your representative, that's cool - now wait the 10 days or however long it takes and see what comes back. You don't know for sure that files were lost. You do know though that the rules changed and now CIC is dealing with an exceptional number of applications. One can therefore safely assume that things are going to take longer.
Wait for an update from CIC and please stop giving false information - all this does is perpetuate the cycle, people will reapply and then, well CIC will have even more to wade through.

Edited to add: No where does CIC commit to sending an AOR in a certain timeframe. The only processing indicator is 12 months. Encouraging folks to call up and kick up a storm and again, create even more work so CIC spends time looking for files instead of actually looking AT files is not logical, IMO.

 

[naturalca]

Okay, this is not about hysteria, CIC has lost a bunch of files and they are not processing them. I even called my federal representative, he had his office call CIC and request information about my application. So CIC told him obviously that they might have lost the application and that they'll start a request for information with the Sydney office, basically they requested from Sydney that they find the file that they misplaced, but in this case they didn't misplace 1 but dozens. The process will supposedly take 10 days so yeah, stop asking people to wait indefinitely for their AOR, if it's been more than 8 weeks that your application was received, you should call CIC and request that your file be retrieved.

Did you call the member of parliament?

 

[Redfield]

I'm saying CIC told my representative's office (Helene Laverdiere from NDP) that they might have lost my file, that they need to have Sydney look for it and find it because it is not being processed atm, and there are no notes in the file about it being sent back to me, their words not mine. I'm not giving any false information.
I'm left in the dark as well, I'm not asking people to send a new applications, I didn't send a new one myself but call CIC and ask them to inquire about your lost file after 8 weeks, CIC agents ask you themselves to call them when it's been more than 8 weeks as that is not normal, don't look at your mailbox every day anxiously awaiting an AOR that might not come. Would you rather have dozens of people filling new applications and spamming Sydney, I don't think that would be very beneficial, neither for the people waiting or for Sydney agents.

 

[spyfy]

If you ask around, you will get an answer. If an MP calls IRCC they expect something they can tell them so that the MP is happy. So what do you expect IRCC to say. Of course they are going to say "It might be lost, but we are also still processing these applications". And then someone here construes that IRCC has lost "dozens of applications". This is because some MPs office told them that an IRCC contact person told them that they might think the application is lost.

I get your anxietey but if your application hasn't received AOR, the probability that IRCC has no records of it is 100%.

There is no point in asking them to find out something about your application. Your application is in some pile, no one ever looked at the envelope yet. No one will have a record of it, even if Justin Trudeau himself asked IRCC they couldn't say anything about your application.

You can either
(a) wait
(b) think that your application is lost and reapply
there is no point in calling them and asking for status.

So far no one has given a good reason why you should expect AOR in the same timeframe as before C-6 was introduced. I gave a factual statement that there was a big inflow of applications with the same number of employees processing them. These two things have been stated by IRCC and/or the minister directly.

The fact that "others already received AOR" is not a good reason. IRCC has always been erratic with the order of AORs given.

Stop asking people to wait indefinitely for their AOR, if it's been more than 8 weeks that your application was received, you should call CIC and request that your file be retrieved.

I never asked people to wait indefinitely. I asked them to wait longer than the average AOR time before C-6. Which was 4-ish weeks. Sure, if you haven't received AOR in 2-3 months, then yes you should be concerned. But not after five weeks.

 

[spyfy]

Nah you know what, never mind. There is no point in trying to rationalize this cause people don't want to hear those arguments.

I'll let you alone in your rant thread and go back to answering people's questions about the application.

 

[CICOtawa]

I'm saying CIC told my representative's office (Helene Laverdiere from NDP) that they might have lost my file, that they need to have Sydney look for it and find it because it is not being processed atm, and there are no notes in the file about it being sent back to me, their words not mine. I'm not giving any false information.
I'm left in the dark as well, I'm not asking people to send a new applications, I didn't send a new one myself but call CIC and ask them to inquire about your lost file after 8 weeks, CIC agents ask you themselves to call them when it's been more than 8 weeks as that is not normal, don't look at your mailbox every day anxiously awaiting an AOR that might not come. Would you rather have dozens of people filling new applications and spamming Sydney, I don't think that would be very beneficial, neither for the people waiting or for Sydney agents.

One thing you could do is to file a Privacy GCMS request and ask for copy of physical documents(It is free) . CIC then needs to find your application, scan them and send you a copy. This will force them to do it and they only have 30 days so they usually very fast prepaying(within 2-3 days) this but they usually send them in 30 day. The agents who prepare this are different than normal officers so if they really can't find it then they have write a formal report then send it to you. At the same time they have to file an internal report as well to report this. This is because every time your file moves an officers sign on it so it is clear who was the last one. This might cause some delays to your application as your file being handed over to another department. but it has an advantage they is being found or they

God forbid if they really lost your application which I do not think is the case and you get a formal report that they did considering you rep is NDP CIC would be in very bad situation. The application forms are considered Protected B document meaning which applies to information or assets that, if compromised, could cause serious injury to an individual, organization or government. This is very bad for them and have consequences.

 

[Redfield]

I don’t really wanna get into a ton of usuless processes, I’ll wait for the 10 days and see if they find anything. I’ll go from there once they report back to me

 

[user828]

One thing you could do is to file a Privacy GCMS request and ask for copy of physical documents(It is free) . CIC then needs to find your application, scan them and send you a copy. This will force them to do it and they only have 30 days so they usually very fast prepaying(within 2-3 days) this but they usually send them in 30 day. The agents who prepare this are different than normal officers so if they really can't find it then they have write a formal report then send it to you. At the same time they have to file an internal report as well to report this. This is because every time your file moves an officers sign on it so it is clear who was the last one. This might cause some delays to your application as your file being handed over to another department. but it has an advantage they is being found or they

God forbid if they really lost your application which I do not think is the case and you get a formal report that they did considering you rep is NDP CIC would be in very bad situation. The application forms are considered Protected B document meaning which applies to information or assets that, if compromised, could cause serious injury to an individual, organization or government. This is very bad for them and have consequences.

When you fill that form, you need FILE #, which we don't have yet

 

[CICOtawa]

When you fill that form, you need FILE #, which we don't have yet

I put client ID

 

[iwodamiorie]

Okay, this is not about hysteria, CIC has lost a bunch of files and they are not processing them. I even called my federal representative, he had his office call CIC and request information about my application. So CIC told him obviously that they might have lost the application and that they'll start a request for information with the Sydney office, basically they requested from Sydney that they find the file that they misplaced, but in this case they didn't misplace 1 but dozens. The process will supposedly take 10 days so yeah, stop asking people to wait indefinitely for their AOR, if it's been more than 8 weeks that your application was received, you should call CIC and request that your file be retrieved.

Please confirm where you received your information from, I searched all news outlet and cannot find it. And believe me, I do not think CIC will tell anyone that they have misplaced a bunch of files that contain sensitive information of people. Let's be reasonable here please.

 

[amitdi]

Thread state -

 

[amitdi]

Nah you know what, never mind. There is no point in trying to rationalize this cause people don't want to hear those arguments.

I'll let you alone in your rant thread and go back to answering people's questions about the application.

Agreed. best is to grab popcorn and watch the entertainment...

 

[Redfield]

Okay, hold on for a second. Let's recap cause it's getting out of control.
I said that in order to know what actually is happening I went through my MP, CIC told him they might have lost the file and they need to look for it. There is a procedure for that, when someone didn't get their AOR after 8 weeks. Which is two months people, not 4-5 weeks. So if you sent your fil on october 20 and didn't get AOR yet. Relax.
For the other ones, who are panicking about not receiving their AOR, I am reading in this forum send new applications, send them one inquiry per day etc. Those are not good solutions, they're just gonna generate way more work for CIC. What I am saying is if you are panicking about your file and it's been more than 2 months that you sent it, then get in touch with IRCC, there is a procedure for that and there's not need to spam them or go full hysterical.