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December Application OINP

maged_mmh

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Nov 27, 2015
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Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
6221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-12-2015
Nomination.....
11-2016
AOR Received.
6-12-2016
Med's Done....
16-12-2016
bestofluck said:
you interpreted in your way. They do tell you cannot accept 2 nominations. anyway...you must do what you believe is true. I still insist you read it carefully what it says

Applications are not accepted from applicants who:

• Have an application in process under another immigration program in Canada;


This says another immigration program......not province. please don't hesitate to apply if you are invited after the session. IF i get invite I will definitely apply

Other program means Family class, Business class...etc.

I repeat this so that other applicants do not interpret wrong.
Pay attention please: it's the province representatives who assess the applications who said so; you may try but you'll sure lose 250$
 

maged_mmh

Champion Member
Nov 27, 2015
2,313
168
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
6221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-12-2015
Nomination.....
11-2016
AOR Received.
6-12-2016
Med's Done....
16-12-2016
Mr Optimist said:
Thinking about it, these provinces can not share applicant's personal details for any purpose other than the intended. So, I don't think other provinces will know if the applicant has applied for PNP in more than one province.

However, some provinces specifically ask if the applicant has/had applied for PNP from other provinces. Even if the applicant answers "No", they will never be able to find the truth on their own. If provinces have access to anything, it is to our EE profile and there is no trace of evidence to show how many PNPs we have applied for.
How do you know your EE profile isn't flagged for OINP?
Any sources for this or just speculation?
 

maged_mmh

Champion Member
Nov 27, 2015
2,313
168
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
6221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-12-2015
Nomination.....
11-2016
AOR Received.
6-12-2016
Med's Done....
16-12-2016
DigitalDestiny said:
Don't think IRCC would leave such a loophole in their new shiny EE system. They wouldn't want multiple provinces adding 600 points each to a single profile !.

Our OINP File# is linked to EE Profile so at the time of issuing AOR ,OINP might have already updated our EE profile to reflect that . That way, if any other province,opens our EE profile, they will immediately come to know that OINP is working on our application.

Just my guess/speculation.... may be people who have already applied to multiple provinces can share their experiences
I agree with this, seems logical; otherwise why do they ask for your EE no. & job code if no data for them in there except your name, passport number and ielts?!
 

jjani

Member
May 17, 2016
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Dominika said:
not sure what you mean by updates..emails? I'm inclined to say no, I called, emailed and faxed multiple times for them to note my app as urgent. Also, I asked the local MP to help me. My nomination came in 2 days after i called my officer to remind that i'm already on expired wp and need them to work at my file. might be coincidence too, but it was me telling them that i need them to give me a decision on my case, regardless, positive or negative, just an answer, so I can have a plan on what to do next.
Thanks for your reply. Apologies for the confusion by updates I did mean Emails only. My case is same I called them, went to the office, emails did all I could. But still no luck. My work permit is expiring in less than 10 days. Also, since I did not get any additional document request nor any call from OINP I don't know which officer to call.
 

Mr Optimist

Star Member
Sep 14, 2012
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maged_mmh said:
How do you know your EE profile isn't flagged for OINP?
Any sources for this or just speculation?
How do you know if your EE profile is flagged for OINP? Any sources for this or just speculation?!! :D

I know my profile is not flagged for anything because if anything changes to my EE profile, CIC would notify me about it. If CIC flags my profile for OINP or any other province, it means I got my 600 points.
 

Dominika

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Jul 29, 2014
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jjani said:
Thanks for your reply. Apologies for the confusion by updates I did mean Emails only. My case is same I called them, went to the office, emails did all I could. But still no luck. My work permit is expiring in less than 10 days. Also, since I did not get any additional document request nor any call from OINP I don't know which officer to call.
I'm sorry to hear that! Trust me, I know how much it sucks to be there. I would fax them, explain in your letter the situation: your wp is expiring and although you plan to apply for the extension, you only have a very limited time before a decision on that app is made. I've also included the previous emails I have sent to them with date stamps.
Meanwhile, prepare everything you need to apply for the extension, apply in paper 2-3 days before your permit expires.
The lesson i learned is that you have to be proactive with OINP to a healthy degree, know you did everything in your power and then try to occupy yourself with something that doesn't include looking at this forum :)

Good luck!
 

maged_mmh

Champion Member
Nov 27, 2015
2,313
168
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
6221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-12-2015
Nomination.....
11-2016
AOR Received.
6-12-2016
Med's Done....
16-12-2016
Mr Optimist said:
How do you know if your EE profile is flagged for OINP? Any sources for this or just speculation?!! :D

I know my profile is not flagged for anything because if anything changes to my EE profile, CIC would notify me about it. If CIC flags my profile for OINP or any other province, it means I got my 600 points.
Exactly, we don't know whar we don't know, now specific to New Brunswick: the clear cut instructions from their government representatives is you cannot apply to their program if you have any federal or provincial file under processing including quebec
 

Mr Optimist

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Sep 14, 2012
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maged_mmh said:
Exactly, we don't know whar we don't know, now specific to New Brunswick: the clear cut instructions from their government representatives is you cannot apply to their program if you have any federal or provincial file under processing including quebec
First point - EE profile flagging
I don't think we are addressing the same point. You had mentioned about EE profile being flagged for OINP. Is there such flagging for EE profile? My understanding is there is no such flagging.

Second point - PNP criteria of different provinces
NB PNP criteria is specific to NB PNP. Each province has its own filter criteria. However, my point was NB will not come to know that you have sent your application to OINP because nobody other than Ontario knows that you have applied for OINP unless you have got a nomination.

Third point - CIC allowing multiple nominations
Yes, CIC allows it. Provinces may have their own criteria but CIC doesn't restrict applicant from receiving multiple nominations. But CIC lets you accept only one nomination. For eg. you may get nominated by both Ontario and PE Isalnd. But you can accept only one of the two.

Fourth point - CIC not allowing applications through multiple programs
What Bestofluck tried to explain was spot on. CIC has multiple immigration programs. And it doesn't let you apply through multiple programs at once. For eg. You can be a billionaire with skilled work ex and a Canadian spouse. But that doesn't mean you can apply under all three streams at once. You can apply for immigration under only one of the streams you qualify in.
 

maged_mmh

Champion Member
Nov 27, 2015
2,313
168
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
6221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-12-2015
Nomination.....
11-2016
AOR Received.
6-12-2016
Med's Done....
16-12-2016
you don't want let go do you? Here it is, hope you get it this time:

Mr Optimist said:
First point - EE profile flagging
I don't think we are addressing the same point. You had mentioned about EE profile being flagged for OINP. Is there such flagging for EE profile? My understanding is there is no such flagging.
There's a statutory question in every PNP application (including OINP - read the guide), even if they do not check, you are obliged to disclose any application you've submitted, again: lying or hiding something can be risky - your call.

Second point - PNP criteria of different provinces
NB PNP criteria is specific to NB PNP. Each province has its own filter criteria. However, my point was NB will not come to know that you have sent your application to OINP because nobody other than Ontario knows that you have applied for OINP unless you have got a nomination.
I am relaying what the NBPNP officers said, if you attended the NB session, you would've known the same, not sure what is there to argue about here?! I'm stating facts, not guessing.
Third point - CIC allowing multiple nominations
Yes, CIC allows it. Provinces may have their own criteria but CIC doesn't restrict applicant from receiving multiple nominations. But CIC lets you accept only one nomination. For eg. you may get nominated by both Ontario and PE Isalnd. But you can accept only one of the two.
CIC is not NBPNP, if you stuck at NBPNP, and lost OINP due to misinterpretation, good luck reaching CIC stage.
Fourth point - CIC not allowing applications through multiple programs
What Bestofluck tried to explain was spot on. CIC has multiple immigration programs. And it doesn't let you apply through multiple programs at once. For eg. You can be a billionaire with skilled work ex and a Canadian spouse. But that doesn't mean you can apply under all three streams at once. You can apply for immigration under only one of the streams you qualify in.
again: have you attended their session? no? better mail them (NB: Promotions@gnb.ca) and get it straign from them, how about that?
 

yy_ca_pr

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Jun 13, 2016
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At the end of this month.
jjani said:
Hi if you don't mind can I please ask you when is your permit expiring ?

@Dominika : Thanks a lot for your answers there are many in the similar situation and it will help all of us a lot. Did you get regular updates on the application processing after clearing each stage ?
 

yy_ca_pr

Full Member
Jun 13, 2016
22
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Thanks.
I am CEC Inland
OINP Interest Letter: 17/12/2015
OINP Delivered & Received: 24/12/2015
Return of application package 28/06/2015
Resubmit application package(nothing change) 4/07/2016
AOR: 13/07/2016
Additional Docs Email(No phone call): 08/08/2016
Work permit will expire at the end of August

Mr Optimist said:
Hey yy... Good to know that your application has started progressing. All the best!! :)

Can you pl share your timeline? Also CEC or FSW as well as if you are in Canada or outside?

Stats are collected from rest of the folks too (latest on page 299) so that everyone on this forum get an idea of where is OINP in terms processing applications.
 

yy_ca_pr

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Jun 13, 2016
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Thanks Dominika. I would consider your suggestion!

Dominika said:
I'm not sure, I haven't applied for a visitor record and don't know how that process is. Keep in mind, you can't work if you apply for a visitor record. I guess, if i were in that situation, I would send a statement saying you havent applied but will apply before your wp expires and can provide them with the proof once you do. Ask around more, sure more people can advise you
 

Mr Optimist

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Sep 14, 2012
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maged_mmh said:
you don't want let go do you? Here it is, hope you get it this time:

There's a statutory question in every PNP application (including OINP - read the guide), even if they do not check, you are obliged to disclose any application you've submitted, again: lying or hiding something can be risky - your call.
I am relaying what the NBPNP officers said, if you attended the NB session, you would've known the same, not sure what is there to argue about here?! I'm stating facts, not guessing.CIC is not NBPNP, if you stuck at NBPNP, and lost OINP due to misinterpretation, good luck reaching CIC stage.again: have you attended their session? no? better mail them (NB: Promotions@gnb.ca) and get it straign from them, how about that?
You know what? I was trying to be respectful and avoid insults. Trust me, it isn't easy. I divided whole discussion topic into different points so that it is easy for you to understand them but you keep messing up. I should have known from earlier discussion I had with you and understand how foolish the whole ordeal will be.

Anyway, chill man! Carry on with what you have understood. After all, there is nothing wrong with it and in fact it is safer.

God bless Canada! Gosh!!
 

Mr Optimist

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Sep 14, 2012
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yy_ca_pr said:
Thanks.
I am CEC Inland
OINP Interest Letter: 17/12/2015
OINP Delivered & Received: 24/12/2015
Return of application package 28/06/2015
Resubmit application package(nothing change) 4/07/2016
AOR: 13/07/2016
Additional Docs Email(No phone call): 08/08/2016
Work permit will expire at the end of August
Thanks yy... I hope you get your nomination real quick! All the best
 

thestunner316

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lot of frustrated applicants on this forum :) :) keep up the spirit guys...
I heard yesterday that a friends friend got his PR from US 15 years after he applied for it... He is based in Dubai, never been to the US before... #JustSaying :)