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"....u had asked a question...........so, why ask if you can google it................
but........."

Dearest Pooja...what's that?
 

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rathod said:
i know u pickup 3 letters frm ur city name.
i m quoting in referance to pooja's word...i don't know why u r so against Worldwide WICS. r u their rival or something. 'coz i know all these consultant do spread nonsense about their rivals in forums like this. r u a genuine call girl............

Rathod.
I know.
 

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hi calgirl
i have to admit that in this reply you r talking and sharing ur views not imposing on us.
i don't disagree with ur port of entry thing but i mistake cannot be the reason of branding someone right or wrong.
they might have done so many worngs but than they might have done some gud to people..............like jitz or so many others. all i was saying was that if they r in market ............that too for last 15 - 16 years...........they might not be that bad.............
in our world....there are right kind of ppl and wrong kind of people........they all exists.......don't they...............
r v saying that right kind of ppl don't commit mistakes......................after all 15 - 16 years in a market is not a joke..............india is on its road to success............it is consumer driven economy.............in others words.............consumer call the shots.............so, how can someone.........who is so corrupt..........so thug..........can keep on cheating ppl. doesn't it means than all of them were so stupid.........
dear, i know that ur intentions are not wrong..............u r jus expressing ur view (from ur point of view)...........but here it looks that u want everyone to do what u did......(so successfully)
dear.........b proud of what u did.............but all others might not be blessed as you.
all the best for ur future endeavours
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pooja82 said:
hi calgirl
i have to admit that in this reply you r talking and sharing ur views not imposing on us.
i don't disagree with ur port of entry thing but i mistake cannot be the reason of branding someone right or wrong.
they might have done so many worngs but than they might have done some gud to people..............like jitz or so many others. all i was saying was that if they r in market ............that too for last 15 - 16 years...........they might not be that bad.............
in our world....there are right kind of ppl and wrong kind of people........they all exists.......don't they...............
r v saying that right kind of ppl don't commit mistakes......................after all 15 - 16 years in a market is not a joke..............india is on its road to success............it is consumer driven economy.............in others words.............consumer call the shots.............so, how can someone.........who is so corrupt..........so thug..........can keep on cheating ppl. doesn't it means than all of them were so stupid.........
dear, i know that ur intentions are not wrong..............u r jus expressing ur view (from ur point of view)...........but here it looks that u want everyone to do what u did......(so successfully)
dear.........b proud of what u did.............but all others might not be blessed as you.
all the best for ur future endeavours
bye
That's your view but right kind of people or consultancy won't lie to convince people to turn them into their customers. If some consultancy does that then they are definitely cheating. Doesn't matter who thinks what, doesn't matter how I sound to whom but I will talk against that consultancy on top of my voice. Why are you taking things personally when we talk against this group? Just because you decided to go with them and want to turn away from the true fact? Let me tell you one thing sweetie...not only in this post, but I sound reasonable in most of my posts as I am not wearing any cover on my eyes which can keep me away from some truth. Good luck to you for your plans.
 

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hi Calgirl
one thing which even a blind person will tell you is that you are anything but reasonable.
i'm not taking there side but i'm trying to tell you to listen to others also. they might not be right but that doesn't makes you right
i'm neither being personal or taking sides 'coz for ur very kind information, i still haven't applied.
i'm doing what they call HOMEWORK.
what seems truth to you might not be. talkin to you it seeems reminds me of the story of a frog living in a well. that frog thinks that that well is the whole world. he doesn't knows of world outside that well. you have one notion about somone (that notion can be right or wrong)
i agree with u that consultants might not always tell the truth but tell me one living person who hasn't lied in their whole life.
come on..............by now, u should have understood that i'm neither pro or against consultants.
i jus wanted the discussion on the forum to know what sensible people think about this issue
anyways, i'll take ur veiws also onboard
bye
 

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Dear Friends, Brothers & Sisters,

Having posted initially on this thread, I refrained watching it after I found some 'bashing game' heating up. Today, I took to seeing it again and found quite some movement in it, some nice, some not so, while some pretty hillarious.

Without prejudice, I'd hope that all of us be suave, modest & proper in our dealings with one another, either here -on this forum, or in general. Our life is too short to contain any ego and surely not enough to be arrogant, whatsoever the reason be. Let's make friends all along our journey in this wonderful world. And a journey... it is. Destination is impractical & an utopia while we breathe. And definitely, we can do without breathing fire, can't we?

I'm brought-up that way. And am 100% sure that all of us are brought-up that way too. It's only that while on the journey we tend to digress our path and mistakes set-in, sometimes. But, let that be a mistake & not a mischief ! We are matured at that, No?

POE (Port of entry):
Few brothers & sisters have got it a little wrong on this issue. No offences here, it's a mistake & not a mischief, I know! To get it straight...

Dear all, as a federal skilled worker, we should be able to land anywhere within Canada -regardless of the destination in COPR, except Quebec. You see, Canada's immigration laws provide for a 2 step process for all visa applications.
1. Immigration officers outside Canada carry out stage one;
2. Stage two is carried out for the most part by a port of entry (POE) immigration officer.

The arrival of an immigrant with an immigrant visa is evidence that when the visa was issued, the visa officer was satisfied that the immigrant met Canada's admission requirements as outlined in the Act and its attendant Regulations. At the point of arrival however, landing is not an automatic right: immigrants must still satisfy the POE immigration officer that entry is permissible: A12(1). The immigration landing process is likewise a 2 step procedure:
1. The first step entails a verification of the immigration visa/record of landing,
2. While the second step involves the completion of the record of landing for admission into Canada.

During the verification step a POE officer will ensure THAT the immigrant does not fall within the various inadmissible classes outlined in Sections 19(1)& (2) of the Act. Which mainly refers that the person/s aren't, post visa medicals, suffering from serious medical disorders; no criminality issues and more commonly, persons who are unable or unwilling to support themselves and their dependants (read settlement funds).

While at the record of landing step, Admissibility is not affected by our choice of POE. We need to fill up the forms, specifically the PR Card form (IMM 5444E), wherein we have to provide an address for card delivery. This can be anywhere, beyond the POE. This is how ppl with COPR destination as Montreal-Quebec drive through the POE of Sarnia, Bluewater Bridge (Ontario). There are many other examples, but for brevity I just chose one.

But, there is only one catch. Only for Quebec, though other destined PRs would be allowed to enter thru a Quebec POE, they cannot complete the record of landing 'fully' here. And would have to further drive/fly to another province (any) to report to the CIC Office for 'full completion'. As Quebec needs the CSQ Certificate to complete the procedure. Which is only in the case of a Quebec PR. But the same is not applicable vice-versa... a Quebec PR can do all the formalities from any other POE.

I hope this post clarifies the POE matter.


I also observed various comments on WW1CS. Without being affiliated to them I'll like to post something on them too (+ve ones), if you brothers & sisters permit me.

Warm regards.
 

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pooja82 said:
hi Calgirl
one thing which even a blind person will tell you is that you are anything but reasonable.
i'm not taking there side but i'm trying to tell you to listen to others also. they might not be right but that doesn't makes you right
i'm neither being personal or taking sides 'coz for ur very kind information, i still haven't applied.
i'm doing what they call HOMEWORK.
what seems truth to you might not be. talkin to you it seeems reminds me of the story of a frog living in a well. that frog thinks that that well is the whole world. he doesn't knows of world outside that well. you have one notion about somone (that notion can be right or wrong)
i agree with u that consultants might not always tell the truth but tell me one living person who hasn't lied in their whole life.
come on..............by now, u should have understood that i'm neither pro or against consultants.
i jus wanted the discussion on the forum to know what sensible people think about this issue
anyways, i'll take ur veiws also onboard
bye
You don't sound neutral but. Do I have to repeat that I'm dead against this particular consultancy and nothing can change it? It doesn't look like you have dealt with outer world much either. There's a golden rule in every profession while dealing with clients. "You may not disclose some information but you must not lie to your client". You need not to believe my words. Better go and consult some related books if you're interested. I agree that everybody lies. But it becomes a very serious issue when someone lies in profession. They are known as con men and that's the difference. I will definitely believe my eyes above anything.
 

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hi qorax
u r more than welcome
it is time to have talk to someone who gives value to others & listens to everyone
plz feel free
bye
 

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calgirl
u r missing the whole point....................
did i asked about worldwide........................i asked ab consultants.................u didn't even understood the question.........i'm very glad that u didn't committed any mistake in the forms.................that is why i said u r blessed..................
bue others might not b.......................
that's exactly the reason...we should go with a consultant......who does it on daily basis..................WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE PROFESSIONAL... whether they are as gud as they advertised.................only time can tell.............
maybe u hate them from ur past exp...............tats is why u r venting ur anger here...............in any case, i don't want to change ur views......i come from a place where ppls veiws are respected................they r given space............not like mamata banerjee, who threw TATA's jus b'coz she thought she was right (actually it was vote bank politics) whereaas the whole world was saying that she is takin Bengal backwords by 10 years..............did she listened.............did she stopped.........................NO
did she succedded.........................OH YES......................does it makes her right......................
i don't want to answer that questions.......................
i don't know what anger u r expressing here.........after being so successful..............
anyways......it is upto u....................
i can't tell u that................in any case, u wouldn't have listened

take care
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qorax said:
Dear Friends, Brothers & Sisters,

Having posted initially on this thread, I refrained watching it after I found some 'bashing game' heating up. Today, I took to seeing it again and found quite some movement in it, some nice, some not so, while some pretty hillarious.

Without prejudice, I'd hope that all of us be suave, modest & proper in our dealings with one another, either here -on this forum, or in general. Our life is too short to contain any ego and surely not enough to be arrogant, whatsoever the reason be. Let's make friends all along our journey in this wonderful world. And a journey... it is. Destination is impractical & an utopia while we breathe. And definitely, we can do without breathing fire, can't we?

I'm brought-up that way. And am 100% sure that all of us are brought-up that way too. It's only that while on the journey we tend to digress our path and mistakes set-in, sometimes. But, let that be a mistake & not a mischief ! We are matured at that, No?

POE (Port of entry):
Few brothers & sisters have got it a little wrong on this issue. No offences here, it's a mistake & not a mischief, I know! To get it straight...

Dear all, as a federal skilled worker, we should be able to land anywhere within Canada -regardless of the destination in COPR, except Quebec. You see, Canada's immigration laws provide for a 2 step process for all visa applications.
1. Immigration officers outside Canada carry out stage one;
2. Stage two is carried out for the most part by a port of entry (POE) immigration officer.

The arrival of an immigrant with an immigrant visa is evidence that when the visa was issued, the visa officer was satisfied that the immigrant met Canada's admission requirements as outlined in the Act and its attendant Regulations. At the point of arrival however, landing is not an automatic right: immigrants must still satisfy the POE immigration officer that entry is permissible: A12(1). The immigration landing process is likewise a 2 step procedure:
1. The first step entails a verification of the immigration visa/record of landing,
2. While the second step involves the completion of the record of landing for admission into Canada.

During the verification step a POE officer will ensure THAT the immigrant does not fall within the various inadmissible classes outlined in Sections 19(1)& (2) of the Act. Which mainly refers that the person/s aren't, post visa medicals, suffering from serious medical disorders; no criminality issues and more commonly, persons who are unable or unwilling to support themselves and their dependants (read settlement funds).

While at the record of landing step, Admissibility is not affected by our choice of POE. We need to fill up the forms, specifically the PR Card form (IMM 5444E), wherein we have to provide an address for card delivery. This can be anywhere, beyond the POE. This is how ppl with COPR destination as Montreal-Quebec drive through the POE of Sarnia, Bluewater Bridge (Ontario). There are many other examples, but for brevity I just chose one.

But, there is only one catch. Only for Quebec, though other destined PRs would be allowed to enter thru a Quebec POE, they cannot complete the record of landing 'fully' here. And would have to further drive/fly to another province (any) to report to the CIC Office for 'full completion'. As Quebec needs the CSQ Certificate to complete the procedure. Which is only in the case of a Quebec PR. But the same is not applicable vice-versa... a Quebec PR can do all the formalities from any other POE.

I hope this post clarifies the POE matter.


I also observed various comments on WW1CS. Without being affiliated to them I'll like to post something on them too (+ve ones), if you brothers & sisters permit me.

Warm regards.
Did you already receive the Visa? Then check you CPR form carefully. It has all the subjects what made you claim points in this process. It also contains your port of entry which you filled up in the initial form. Please check the DEST box. It contains the POE code. For instance, for Toronto the POE code is 3812. It's there because that particular POE will have all your details. This form contains all details on which the POE officer is going to decide your entry to Canada by comparing it with their record. I was also under this impression that we can land anywhere but Quebec until Sharma77 attracted my attention towards this piece of information and then I checked with CHC ND.
Good luck SD
 

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pooja82 said:
calgirl
u r missing the whole point....................
did i asked about worldwide........................i asked ab consultants.................u didn't even understood the question.........i'm very glad that u didn't committed any mistake in the forms.................that is why i said u r blessed..................
bue others might not b.......................
that's exactly the reason...we should go with a consultant......who does it on daily basis..................WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE PROFESSIONAL... whether they are as gud as they advertised.................only time can tell.............
maybe u hate them from ur past exp...............tats is why u r venting ur anger here...............in any case, i don't want to change ur views......i come from a place where ppls veiws are respected................they r given space............not like mamata banerjee, who threw TATA's jus b'coz she thought she was right (actually it was vote bank politics) whereaas the whole world was saying that she is takin Bengal backwords by 10 years..............did she listened.............did she stopped.........................NO
did she succedded.........................OH YES......................does it makes her right......................
i don't want to answer that questions.......................
i don't know what anger u r expressing here.........after being so successful..............
anyways......it is upto u....................
i can't tell u that................in any case, u wouldn't have listened

take care
bye
YOU are missing a point here sweetie. Even I never said that all consultants are as bad as them. Please check my previous posts for reference if interested. Neither did I ask anyone not to go to WW!cS or any other consultant. I have only expressed my views about them. You may come from a very respectable background but I come from a background which taught me to think rationally, and logically and not to abuse others just because I don't have any point of logic while talking. You know, upbringing becomes visible when someone loses temper and becomes unnecessarily abusive.
By the way...is Mamata Banerjee the only one you know from Bengal as you're stuck with her for last few posts? I can tell you about others too if you're interested so that you can get a wide choice bringing up funny comparisons.
 

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calgirl said:
Did you already receive the Visa? Then check you CPR form carefully. It has all the subjects what made you claim points in this process. It also contains your port of entry which you filled up in the initial form. Please check the DEST box. It contains the POE code. For instance, for Toronto the POE code is 3812. It's there because that particular POE will have all your details. This form contains all details on which the POE officer is going to decide your entry to Canada by comparing it with their record. I was also under this impression that we can land anywhere but Quebec until Sharma77 attracted my attention towards this piece of information and then I checked with CHC ND.
Good luck SD
Dear Sister,

I expected this reply & also foresaw the timing. As u r well aware I haven't recd my visa. But, I'm quite knowledgeable on the matter, might be due to my higher age bracket and the experience/exposure I gained along my half-century. But, I accept your point too, you might be right And I can be fully wrong, I might've gone bonkers also.

My filing destination is Toronto (as I've a business there, established in Aug 2009). Thus, my COPR shall also have it as Toronto. However, I'll be landing at Calgary. Open my branch there and then shall come over to Toronto. And I'll have no probs. Why? 1-as I explained earlier; 2-that box & codes u refer is linked to the entire CIC/CBSA/JUDIC system; 3-Live Example: Five days before, my colleague landed at Calgary (COPR: Toronto) to organise my new office there.

Warm regards.
 

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calgirl
that's exactly what i'm saying......................
u r struck with world...........wide for no reason..............nobody is talkin about them............jitz just said few nice words about them..........
since than u r jumping up n down...................
u were not expressing ur views...............u were hell bent to make the whole forum to believe that one should do it themselves and shouldnot go to consultants as they all are cheats n thugs.......................
i would recommened u to open ur sent folder and check what u worte earlier....................maybe u were so angry that u don't even realise.....what u had said........................
i don't want to comment on ur background................as i want to respect u n ur family.................who gave u so much confidence to apply on ur own & succeed...................i have already told u time n agian that the whole forum should b proud of being like u..............
but i think u want us to change our veiw ab you.......................

:)
 

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qorax
gud people get what they deserve............
negative powers can keep on trying
bye