Citizenship test: Collective action required, or expect endless delays, years. Example of the effective lobbyng of people awaiting spousal sponsorship

[AshesNdust]

First of, I didn't accuse him, I ve said that he can be an IRCC officer.
Second, don't you ever be scared of fighting for your right because you pay your taxes in this country just like Canadians do. You are not a second class citizen and you deserve to have your application to be process properly. You paid your dues and have the right to know. Ok ??
Public service officers are paid with our taxes and you know what they usuallly due in normal time ? They drag their work, they are known for that. Having a global pandemic is the perfect opportunity to drag even more. The only way to encourage them to work is to put pressure on them.
I just had an example a few weeks ago with a federal agency that will remain unnamed. The inspector gave me a delay of 2 months to process my file, which I believe didn't make sense at all because of low complexity of my file. But hey it is all because of Covid. 2 months later the file was not processed. So I emailed his boss, the general inquiries email address and cc him to know what is going on, the next morning everything is good to go. I even had an email from him apologizing for the delay he had caused.
This is how they operate, now if you don't want to do anything about, please have the decency to let people fight for their right at the end of the day it might be beneficial for yourselves.

Saying someone can be an officer vs. accusing someone is pretty much splitting hairs. There is no reason to hint, imply, accuse, state, or question if someone is an officer in this thread.
No one is scared about asking the IRCC or their local reps about the status of restarting tests or their applications. Some of us are objecting to how some people want to go about asking for test restarting.
Everyone in Canada pays taxes. It has no connection to immigration status beyond proof of residency in Canada. We don’t get extra credit for following Canadian law, it’s expected that we do.
Not all public workers “drag” their work. Like all humans in the planet, some work more efficient than others. Your limited experience with one employee doesn’t define all of them. You no idea what that employee was doing.
For all you know, after his boss read your email he asked the employee why your file wasn’t done. The employee says, “I’m working on 20 files, this guy is number 11. Should I just jump on his?” Boss could have replied, “Is it pretty straight forward? Think you can get it done today?” Employee answers, “Yeah, paper work is clean, should be quick.” Boss says, “Great, just do that and shoot the guy an email.”
No one knows why some times things get delayed. An apology doesn’t always mean, “Sorry I did something wrong.” It can also mean, “Sorry you had to wait.”
Personally, I haven’t had any issues with IRCC beyond the normal wait times. I certainly wouldn’t use my limited experience to claim that there aren’t any problems. I 100% believe that they screw up sometimes. I don’t believe it’s part of a larger plot to screw us all over. I am a huge believer in Occam’s razor.
Again, no one is saying don’t do anything. Some of us don’t agree with the tactics that others are employing. I haven’t seen anyone stop someone from doing anything. The closest I’s read on this forum are some people trying to repress differing opinions of some posters they don’t agree with by telling them they shouldn’t practice their rights of freedom of expression on this forum.

 

[sachinsoman1988]

sachinsoman1988, this is what you said yesterday, and now u just discredit yourself right off the bat, why the heck should we believe what u have to say after this? Better suggestion for you is for you to keep your basement strategy, but start learning how to keep promise and being honest before you offend and insult other ppl's opinions

Sorry dude for 'offending your opinions'. Afraid of my words?? You can ignore me but you cannot stop me!!


Regarding the following sentence - but start learning how to keep promise and being honest before you offend and insult other ppl's opinions

I would like to quote some of the sentences that a 'honest and non-offending people' post in this forum:

1. Government employees do not contribute to the economic production directly, they live on tax payers' money.
2, So what is a real priority here? Perhaps, for some officials, they prefer fewer new citizenships, cuz they get those people's tax and fees pmt anyway,

 

[FlyingLion]

Saying someone can be an officer vs. accusing someone is pretty much splitting hairs. There is no reason to hint, imply, accuse, state, or question if someone is an officer in this thread.
No one is scared about asking the IRCC or their local reps about the status of restarting tests or their applications. Some of us are objecting to how some people want to go about asking for test restarting.
Everyone in Canada pays taxes. It has no connection to immigration status beyond proof of residency in Canada. We don’t get extra credit for following Canadian law, it’s expected that we do.
Not all public workers “drag” their work. Like all humans in the planet, some work more efficient than others. Your limited experience with one employee doesn’t define all of them. You no idea what that employee was doing.
For all you know, after his boss read your email he asked the employee why your file wasn’t done. The employee says, “I’m working on 20 files, this guy is number 11. Should I just jump on his?” Boss could have replied, “Is it pretty straight forward? Think you can get it done today?” Employee answers, “Yeah, paper work is clean, should be quick.” Boss says, “Great, just do that and shoot the guy an email.”
No one knows why some times things get delayed. An apology doesn’t always mean, “Sorry I did something wrong.” It can also mean, “Sorry you had to wait.”
Personally, I haven’t had any issues with IRCC beyond the normal wait times. I certainly wouldn’t use my limited experience to claim that there aren’t any problems. I 100% believe that they screw up sometimes. I don’t believe it’s part of a larger plot to screw us all over. I am a huge believer in Occam’s razor.
Again, no one is saying don’t do anything. Some of us don’t agree with the tactics that others are employing. I haven’t seen anyone stop someone from doing anything. The closest I’s read on this forum are some people trying to repress differing opinions of some posters they don’t agree with by telling them they shouldn’t practice their rights of freedom of expression on this forum.

There is a big difference between accusing and wondering about somebody's identity. Stop Lying!
You are the one worrying about Canadians writing or calling their government reps complaining about us. Ok !?
“Your limited experience with one employee doesn’t define all of them...“ Do you know how many federal services I deal with because of my job ?
Anyway, not worth wasting my time with you because all you do is lying and guessing.

 

[sachinsoman1988]

There is a big difference between accusing and wondering about somebody's identity. Stop Lying!
You are the one worrying about Canadians writing or calling their government reps complaining about us. Ok !?
“Your limited experience with one employee doesn’t define all of them...“ Do you know how many federal services I deal with because of my job ?
Anyway, not worth wasting my time with you because all you do is lying and guessing.

If someone quotes a post of yours and replies in a public forum with 'This dude can be someone who is trying to disrupt public order and divide the country' You are perfectly fine with this??

You will only be concerned if someone exclusively says 'This dude is someone who is trying to disrupt public order and divide the country'.

Am I correct in understanding you?

 

[AshesNdust]

There is a big difference between accusing and wondering about somebody's identity. Stop Lying!
You are the one worrying about Canadians writing or calling their government reps complaining about us. Ok !?
“Your limited experience with one employee doesn’t define all of them...“ Do you know how many federal services I deal with because of my job ?
Anyway, not worth wasting my time with you because all you do is lying and guessing.

There is not a big difference. Maybe english isn’t your first language, but what you are writing has negative connotations.

Yeah, I am worried about what Canadians think because in the past they have directly affected immigration policies.
I have no idea how many you talk to, but, unless it’s 51% of all IRCC workers, you din’t know how the majority of workers are nor do you known what they are being asked to do behind the scenes.
As usually, some people on this thread hurl insults at other posters because they don’t agree with others stand points. No, I’m not lying. Yes, I am guessing just like everyone else on this thread because no one knows what is actually going on at the IRCC. The difference is is that I’m not calling people liars, telling them they aren’t allowed to voice their options, or inferring that they are IRCC secretly posting. I have expressed my disagreement with some of the proposed approaches to try and get the government to update us about the tests or how to get the tests restarted, what I think the best approach would be, and objected to some of the replies directed at other posters.

 

[FlyingLion]

If someone quotes a post of yours and replies in a public forum with 'This dude can be someone who is trying to disrupt public order and divide the country' You are perfectly fine with this??

You will only be concerned if someone exclusively says 'This dude is someone who is trying to disrupt public order and divide the country'.

Am I correct in understanding you?

You answered your own question. can be ≠ is.
can be means that they are suspicions but not proven.
is implies that there is affirmation therefore an accusation.
Here you go, I hope you did well on English test when you applied for citizenship. Now let's get back to the main subject.

 

[sachinsoman1988]

You answered your own question. can be ≠ is.
can be means that they are suspicions but not proven.
is implies that there is affirmation therefore an accusation.
Here you go, I hope you did well on English test when you applied for citizenship. Now let's get back to the main subject.

Sorry. I am not that good in English as I immigrated from a non native speaking country where I am assuming you are from.

Folks, the quoted person can be someone who is just tired of his life or his work place condition and cant move a finger against their boss in private companies. Quoted person can also be someone who think they are entitled to things and their priority matters more than anyone. Quoted person can also be someone who is the real reason why people throw insults at immigrants and call them leachers.

 

[skydiving]

Sorry dude for 'offending your opinions'. Afraid of my words?? You can ignore me but you cannot stop me!!


Regarding the following sentence - but start learning how to keep promise and being honest before you offend and insult other ppl's opinions

I would like to quote some of the sentences that a 'honest and non-offending people' post in this forum:

1. Government employees do not contribute to the economic production directly, they live on tax payers' money.
2, So what is a real priority here? Perhaps, for some officials, they prefer fewer new citizenships, cuz they get those people's tax and fees pmt anyway,

sachinsoman1988, LOL, u such a liar! You lied to yourself and now lie to other people. Taking sentences out of context and putting words into other's mouths, enough is enough. Nobody want to believe you. So shameful you doing that. Guys we dont need to waste time to talk to the liar, everything the liar has to say is mostly lies!

 

[skydiving]

There is not a big difference. Maybe english isn’t your first language, but what you are writing has negative connotations.

Yeah, I am worried about what Canadians think because in the past they have directly affected immigration policies.
I have no idea how many you talk to, but, unless it’s 51% of all IRCC workers, you din’t know how the majority of workers are nor do you known what they are being asked to do behind the scenes.
As usually, some people on this thread hurl insults at other posters because they don’t agree with others stand points. No, I’m not lying. Yes, I am guessing just like everyone else on this thread because no one knows what is actually going on at the IRCC. The difference is is that I’m not calling people liars, telling them they aren’t allowed to voice their options, or inferring that they are IRCC secretly posting. I have expressed my disagreement with some of the proposed approaches to try and get the government to update us about the tests or how to get the tests restarted, what I think the best approach would be, and objected to some of the replies directed at other posters.

If some one lied in the public forum, which others can tell so obviously, we are allowed to called out the liars. That is allowed. Whoever lied, the more you lie, the more ppl can tell and we have absolutely right to call you out

 

[skydiving]

Sorry. I am not that good in English as I immigrated from a non native speaking country where I am assuming you are from.

Folks, the quoted person can be someone who is just tired of his life or his work place condition and cant move a finger against their boss in private companies. Quoted person can also be someone who think they are entitled to things and their priority matters more than anyone. Quoted person can also be someone who is the real reason why people throw insults at immigrants and call them leachers.

OMG, wow.." cant move a finger against their boss in private companies." continuing insulting a group consists 80 % of workforce in this nation!

 

[sachinsoman1988]

sachinsoman1988, LOL, u such liar! You lied to yourself and now lie to other people. Taking sentences out of context and putting words into other's mouths, enough is enough. Nobody want to believe you. So shameful you doing that. Guys we dont need to waste time to talk to liars, everything the liar has to say is mostly lies!

Love you.

 

[AshesNdust]

If some one lied in the public forum, which others can tell so obviously, we are allowed to called out the liars. That is allowed. Whoever lied, the more you lie, the more ppl can tell and we have absolutely right to call you out

To quote a wiseman:

“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

-Inigo Montoya

 

[sachinsoman1988]

OMG, wow.." cant move a finger against their boss in private companies." continuing insulting a group consist 80 % of workforce in this nation!

Why does it burn you now? Refer to your definition above. I never accused you. it's just suspicion without proof and not accusation..

Brush up little bit of your citizenship English test. Like you, I have never said anything about any group. I was referring to you specifically. You are the 80% of workforce ??

 

[sachinsoman1988]

sachinsoman1988, LOL, u such a liar! You lied to yourself and now lie to other people. Taking sentences out of context and putting words into other's mouths, enough is enough. Nobody want to believe you. So shameful you doing that. Guys we dont need to waste time to talk to the liar, everything the liar has to say is mostly lies!

Nobody or just you? I dont see any others coming after me?? And i dont know why you like my words so much that you reply with passion to me. Regardless of you insulting me, I love you.. I love everyone... please treat everyone with respect.

 

[yasir22]

You guys fight like 5 years old!