Citizenship processing times by country of origin?
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There is only a very small percentage of people who apply for citizenship and post in this forum. If you started trying to collect data you would have insane levels of sampling bias. So you wouldn't get any useful data out of it.ottawa-pr said:
Everyone has the rights to request past statistics from IRCC through ATIP under the Access to Information Act for $5, for example processing time by local office, by country of origin.
Again, those breakdowns would be meaningless. It tells you nothing if you have a sample of fifty people and then see that people from country A need longer to be processed. It would be completely random that you see something in that data.ottawa-pr said:
Imagine you have one guy from country A and it takes 8 months
And you have one guy from country B and it takes 4 months
Would you now claim that country A generally moves slower? No, of course not. And "even" if you have fifty people, selection biased in this forum, that wouldn't change the judgement.
But that is not surprising since there is a lot of variation among Eastern European countries: Belarus (Russian vassal), Ukraine (pro-west), Moldova (riddled with corruption), Romania & Bulgaria (EU member states). So my guess would be that someone from Bulgaria is processed much faster than someone from Belarus.skekk said:
Can you explain how people on this site are a biased sample? In what way do you think the users here deviate from the average person? Are they more likely to have non-routine applications? That is an easy fix as the criteria for an application being non-routine are pretty straight forward. Are they more likely to be more educated? What is the bias?spyfy said:
That is easily fixed by looking at regions (this is my first on the spot try, maybe you could divide them a bit furtherspyfy said:
1. Europe (EU + UK + Norway + Switzerland)
2. Russia, Central Asia plus rest of Europe (from Tirana to Moscow)
3. Middle East and North Africa
4. Sub-Saharan Africa
5. Indian sub-continent (Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan)
6. Latin America
7. China
8. Rest of Asia (Japan, Korea, Indonesia, etc.)
In my humble opinion I do not think that you would ever be able to detect any country specific biases as I believe they are very careful to process all applications in similar matter and even if they would be able to process an application from a specific applicant faster than from another, I believe they make very sure that they let the one from the former applicant sit to not make this obvious.
For what it is worth: when I applied for permanent resident status for Canada while living in the UK, being married to a Canadian, with three Canadian kids and married for then over 17 years it took me exactly six months to get the permit, the same amount of time it took everybody else, even though I believed that I had a slight "advantage" by my marriage to a Canadian and being a German passport holder, with assets to bring into the country. I can assure you I had no faster processing time than any other applicant. In fact: they said it would take 6 months and it took to the date exactly six months.
I think the variations in time have more to do with different citizenship offices than with where we come from and as said, should there be differences in our countries of origin I am sure they make very sure that we would not know this.
Stef.
For what it is worth: when I applied for permanent resident status for Canada while living in the UK, being married to a Canadian, with three Canadian kids and married for then over 17 years it took me exactly six months to get the permit, the same amount of time it took everybody else, even though I believed that I had a slight "advantage" by my marriage to a Canadian and being a German passport holder, with assets to bring into the country. I can assure you I had no faster processing time than any other applicant. In fact: they said it would take 6 months and it took to the date exactly six months.
I think the variations in time have more to do with different citizenship offices than with where we come from and as said, should there be differences in our countries of origin I am sure they make very sure that we would not know this.
Stef.
Personally, I believe it is not only one factor playing in the speed of processing. It can be multi factors. For sure, CIC has priority factors. Most important which office location. As well, the applicant situation e.g. Travelling outside.
During my interview, I noticed the officer has paper with 4 boxes / points which she ticked off during the test. She ticked all of them then she said everything is good " now where were you born" . Where you born might affect the security clearance but not the main factor.
During my interview, I noticed the officer has paper with 4 boxes / points which she ticked off during the test. She ticked all of them then she said everything is good " now where were you born" . Where you born might affect the security clearance but not the main factor.