CIC is "working around the clock" to get 25,000 Syrian refugees to Canada

[sushsmart15]

It may be true that the Canadian Govt. is prioritizing the Syrian refugees and applicants.

In SINP timeline, there are many candidates awaiting their applications to be processed.

However, we can see that there is a candidate from Syria whose application is already "In Process" status even though there were others who submitted their applications before this person.

 

[prcand]

I would take the Canadian government referred to below as the federal government. But, provinces are somewhat autonomous when it comes to nominations, and even opposed to federal government curtailing their selection privileges. And I'm not even talking about Quebec as an extreme example. Their quota is their own quota.

My point is that, the political mileage of the federal government to fulfill commitment in processing 25k refugees may not necessarily dictate provincial selection. If the provinces do prioritize refugees, it may be on their own volition and not because of federal government whims and caprices (which is the subject of this thread).

Reality check with SINP. My status was changed to in process (October 2015) and consequently got my nomination after 2 weeks. That's a total of 4 months wait after application received status (June 2015). So it may really take a while as well.

Don't lose hope though. At least your application has been received. You are now assured of a fair assessment and processing. Use this time to review and make sure you have submitted a complete package to minimize risks of negative outcome.

It may be true that the Canadian Govt. is prioritizing the Syrian refugees and applicants.

In SINP timeline, there are many candidates awaiting their applications to be processed.

However, we can see that there is a candidate from Syria whose application is already "In Process" status even though there were others who submitted their applications before this person.

 

[prcand]

I competely feel for you, mate.

I would like to believe that CIC is professional enough to not keep people on hanging status. If provinces can announce that they would stop accepting applications, I trust CIC would be man enough to do the same. So in the absence of official announcement, I am inclined to be in the positive side of things (i.e., no change in the rules of the game mid way).

Can't PGWP be extended like work permits? Maybe you can explore the option just to prepare for any eventuality?

As much as i feel for the refugees and would like all the help they can give them done, I am in the pool and have a PGWP expiring in March. So i am also worried about what is happening. I can do both without being called non-empathetic.

 

[redfox05]

Here is what I think:
1. As some other posters have said, for foreign nationals, PR / ITA is not an entitlement.
2. Politics is about looking good. Accepting Syrian refugees will make Canada look good. Of course, they will prioritize them over EE applicants.
3. Some responses here on this thread that are urging patience are from people who have already been granted PR and therefore can afford to take such a stance.
4. Those in the pool and are affected by the apparent suspension of draw (if that is indeed the case) are in a worse position than those who have submitted their PR application.

As you said, the apparent suspension of the draw. I recon right now there is still nothing to worry about yet.

How did I come to this conclusion?
1. As ybjianada said, I'm going to try not to worry (too much) until we get official comms from CIC.
2. I put all EE draw dates all the way back to jan 2015 into a calendar, and I looked at the size of the gaps between draws. Plenty had gaps like this one, one even 3 weeks. And many not on a Friday. So no need to panic yet. I'm gonna see how it goes this week. Might go watch some TV now for some distraction.

 

[8Hannah8]

Here is what I think:
1. As some other posters have said, for foreign nationals, PR / ITA is not an entitlement.
2. Politics is about looking good. Accepting Syrian refugees will make Canada look good. Of course, they will prioritize them over EE applicants.
3. Some responses here on this thread that are urging patience are from people who have already been granted PR and therefore can afford to take such a stance.
4. Those in the pool and are affected by the apparent suspension of draw (if that is indeed the case) are in a worse position than those who have submitted their PR application.

I am asking people be patient because I know how difficult the process was and how much energy and effort I wasted to worry about things I didn't have to worry about. I am still recovering from it. It is hard to be foreign, it's hard to be a foreign single applicant knowing that you is pretty much all you have. It was made pretty clear to me by my HR department that they will not assist me beyond writing a recommendation letter and that I am out right away once I am out of status.
I was pending some documentation to arrive just before my PGWP was about to expire, and by "just" I mean 2 weeks. I also was in the boat waiting for for points to drop, praying and hoping. Thank God and logic, I figured out the situation is not going to change before I went out of status.
Summing it all up, I just want to say that worrying about something out of your control is really wasteful. This energy has to be used to develop a back up plan (ideally several plans) for the worst case scenario. It might seem impossible now, but it really helps you to think clrearly.

 

[Nightrocker]

@RamsayBolton:

I think all CIC need is "twenty good men" to take care of our applications.

 

[JoacRy]

Hi 8Hannah8, thank you for your words of wisdom. I remember that 2 weeks ago I was very upset and then I came to the realization that the only thing I could do is to try and improve my score and to help others. Apart from that I just go on with day to day life (which serves as a good distraction to things I cannot control).

 

[RamsayBolton]

@RamsayBolton:

I think all CIC need is "twenty good men" to take care of our applications.

Some people misunderstand that CIC will not process our applications, while what I wanted to say is due to a large number of applications from Syrian refugees. CIC might not issue new draw from now until the end of the year.

 

[anarsoul]

Some people misunderstand that CIC will not process our applications, while what I wanted to say is due to a large number of applications from Syrian refugees. CIC might not issue new draw from now until the end of the year.

They don't start to process application immediately. I'm a July FSW applicant, and according to GCMS notes there were very few activities done right after submitting my application, they spent roughly few days working on my application in a timeframe from July 25 till October 1 (the date of generating GCMS notes report). So potential draws won't affect workload for next two months. And it's very likely that those applications that are in process now will be put on hold.

 

[mf4361]

I competely feel for you, mate.

I would like to believe that CIC is professional enough to not keep people on hanging status. If provinces can announce that they would stop accepting applications, I trust CIC would be man enough to do the same. So in the absence of official announcement, I am inclined to be in the positive side of things (i.e., no change in the rules of the game mid way).

Can't PGWP be extended like work permits? Maybe you can explore the option just to prepare for any eventuality?

Just for the point of PGWP, it's a once in a lifetime permit and it cannot be renewed. You'd either need LMIA to get another WP, or some other reasons (like BOWP or PNP or spousal sponsor etc.)

 

[Nick~Nick]

Mr. McCallum just had an interview with CBC this morning : http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-mccallum-syrian-refugee-plan-1.3307788

[speculation]
Looks like CIC is focusing all their resources on the refugees issue in order to bring 25,000 refugees here before the end of this year - 7 weeks left.

There's no way in such a short period of time the new goverment can hire more CIC agents and provide adequate training in order to compensate the budget cut from Harper's time. Therefore, I think there will be no draw until January 2016
[/speculation]

also, don't think in first four months of 2016, we are going to see CIC focusing on us or draw.

 

[JoacRy]

The cold hard scary facts:

25,000 people/7 weeks
3,571 people/week
510 people/day

Just think about how long it takes to get an AOR after inviting 1,500 people to apply every 2-3 weeks. This will require tremendous amounts of manpower (probably working on double overtime), and then some.

 

[Lammawitch]

Some people misunderstand that CIC will not process our applications, while what I wanted to say is due to a large number of applications from Syrian refugees. CIC might not issue new draw from now until the end of the year.

Why are people equating the announcement about refugee intake with Putative "delays" in Express Entry draws? (Not you in particular, I'm just jumping off your post).

It's two completely separate programs...

 

[RamsayBolton]

Why are people equating the announcement about refugee intake with Putative "delays" in Express Entry draws? (Not you in particular, I'm just jumping off your post).

It's two completely separate programs...

Two different programs but all processed by the same number of CIC agents. Based on the article, I just think that CIC will delay EE draw, so they won't have more applications to process next 7 weeks.

 

[Gabbana]

An excerpt:

5.14. Processing priorities
While Regulations do not establish processing priorities,operational priorities may be established.
Departmental policy requires that applications in the family class for spouses, common-law and conjugal partners, and dependent children be finalized within six months. Section 5.7 of OP 2 lists exceptional circumstances that could result in visa offices legitimately not meeting these service standards.
Refugee applications classified as urgent or vulnerable should also receive priority processing. OP 5 provides definitions and instructions on processing urgent and vulnerable refugee applications.
In the event of a disaster, visa offices are reminded to continue to pull the applications of affected persons to the front of the queue for review, and advise the appropriate Geographic Desk, International Region of the situation. Given the variety of situations which can occur as a result of any disaster, it remains the applicant or sponsor’s responsibility to demonstrate that they are negatively affected by the situation.


Source:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op01-eng.pdf