CIC is "working around the clock" to get 25,000 Syrian refugees to Canada

[RamsayBolton]

Applying it to Express Entry and applicants is where the fear-mongering comes in... What a leap. Now people are denigrating these poor refugees.

Which government body is responsible for processing all Express Entry applications? it's the one and only: CIC. So whenever there's an incident of something that divert CIC's resources, it will directly apply to and affect all Express Entry applicants. This thread is just trying to find out what is going on with upcoming draws and how's the new immigration minister will run thing in the near future.

 

[Jcgo9355]

Canada is Canadian's home, they have every right to invite whoever they want to move to this land and to priortize any applications/category of applicants at their own discrete. If you are uncomfortable with their right and believes they should priortize your application before any other person, perhaps you should consider immigrating to the US instead?

 

[Bahamas]

Which government body is responsible for processing all Express Entry applications? it's the one and only: CIC. So whenever there's an incident of something that divert CIC's resources, it will directly apply to and affect all Express Entry applicants. This thread is just trying to find out what is going on with upcoming draws and how's the new immigration minister will run thing in the near future.

Are there any EE applicants facing death, the lost of loved ones, have no access to food and water, displaced because they are the victims of war, etc? OMG, have some empathy people!!! Upcoming draws, yes, that is top priority. I wonder why this wasn't a part of the election platform. Oh yeah, the electorate doesn't care. I have no problem with my application being delayed to help these people. If you do, Canada is NOT for you!

 

[JoacRy]

Hi I agree with the decision to prioritise these less fortunate people (even if it means placing my application at the back of the queue).

Having been born in a country that went through civil war for over 30 years I empathize with the plight of these refugees. Another thing 'patience' and 'compassion for your fellow human beings' are Canadian values. I dream of one day being able to live these values as a Canadian.

For my part I've decided that until I'm lucky enough to get an ITA I will prioritise helping others on this forum and focus on my professional work. I'm hoping the old saying holds true "one good deed merits another".

 

[HB.Agenda2]

you know what the funny thing is... i don't think anyone in this forum has a problem waiting longer for processing on their files... hell, people in the previous years have waited for an year and more to get approval on their files... we are all lucky to have EE available to us where 4-6 months processing is promised... it all comes down to your level of patience and belief that sooner or later you're going to get it... and of course individual situations have a huge impact on that level of patience... someone wants to quit his/her job immediately after getting PR because they are so frustrated with their employer and the management.... someone has their WP expiring soon, some are already on Restoration Period while their BOWP applications in processing.... me for example haven't seen my family back in my home country for 3 years now... just been telling myself, once i get PR that's when i'll make the trip... i just wanna bolt home once this thing comes through spend a good couple of months with my parents and family... so yeah, we all have our individual situations that determine our levels of tolerating delay...

 

[RamsayBolton]

Are there any EE applicants facing death, the lost of loved ones, have no access to food and water, displaced because they are the victims of war, etc? OMG, have some empathy people!!! Upcoming draws, yes, that is top priority. I wonder why this wasn't a part of the election platform. Oh yeah, the electorate doesn't care. I have no problem with my application being delayed to help these people. If you do, Canada is NOT for you!

You need to calm down and stop being dramatic. I created this thread not to bash or complain about the refugees situation. It's a thread with a speculation that there might be no new draws until January 2016. That's it.

 

[HB.Agenda2]

Hi I agree with the decision to prioritise these less fortunate people (even if it means placing my application at the back of the queue).

Having been born in a country that went through civil war for over 30 years I empathize with the plight of these refugees. Another thing 'patience' and 'compassion for your fellow human beings' are Canadian values. I dream of one day being able to live these values as a Canadian.

For my part I've decided that until I'm lucky enough to get an ITA I will prioritise helping others on this forum and focus on my professional work. I'm hoping the old saying holds true "one good deed merits another".

ditto here... i dream of the exact same thing, to be able to live the exact same values and pass it on to my kids... that compassion for fellow human beings, empathy for the less fortunate and that 'giving' nature... that's what makes Canada the most desirable place to spend life living and working hard, to me at least... whilst i am also not saying i do not desire the standards of life, the endless opportunities to be and succeed in whoever you want to be and give a secure future to your family...

 

[redfox05]

I have no idea what the syrian situation will do to EE, but here are some interesting OFFICIAL CIC statistics everyone might want to take into account.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/statistics/facts2014/permanent/01.asp

In 2014, Canada took in 260,404 permanent residents. 25,000 is a small fraction of that number, and that was just the permanent resident folks. I mean some may still see that as a massive amount, others might see that number and think you know what, we don't need to worry. What you think is up to you, but just thought I would throw that out there.

Other usual links:

CIC - The refugee system in Canada
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/canada.asp

CIC - How Canada is helping Syrian and Iraqi refugees
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/crisis/canada-response.asp

CIC - Helping Syrian and Iraqi refugees
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/crisis/syria-iraq.asp

CIC - FAQs - On the page, scroll down the page and click on "Syrian and Iraqi refugees" for all the CIC FAQ's on this topic.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/ENGLISH/helpcentre/results-by-topic.asp?t=11

LinkedIn Post - How Justin Trudeau Can Improve Canada’s Immigration Policies
There are also a few separate mentions around EE and Syrian Refugees mentioned on this LinkedIn article, but not directly discussing the effect of both topics together.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-justin-trudeau-can-improve-canadas-immigration-colin-r-?trk=prof-post&trkSplashRedir=true&forceNoSplash=true

 

[8Hannah8]

Are there any EE applicants facing death, the lost of loved ones, have no access to food and water, displaced because they are the victims of war, etc? OMG, have some empathy people!!! Upcoming draws, yes, that is top priority. I wonder why this wasn't a part of the election platform. Oh yeah, the electorate doesn't care. I have no problem with my application being delayed to help these people. If you do, Canada is NOT for you!

Not every person who is claiming to be a refugee and applying for asylum is going to be granted a status as there are many criterias have to be met. Refugees also need to apply for asylum and pass the securities/health checks. I highly doubt Canada will board a plane of 25K people bring them here, then ship back those who do not fall under "refugee" criteria. The whole story of little Syrian boy drowning and his father's application to Canadian asylum turned out to be a misunderstanding as he never applied to Canada. It all depends what new government really meant by saying "bringing refugees", it could be simply increasing the pool of refugees from that region to 25K or setting up existing applications as a priority. Political slogans might have a completely different sense for the politicians themselves.

 

[bc_canada]

I have no idea what the syrian situation will do to EE, but here are some interesting OFFICIAL CIC statistics everyone might want to take into account.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/statistics/facts2014/permanent/01.asp

In 2014, Canada took in 260,404 permanent residents. 25,000 is a small fraction of that number, and that was just the permanent resident folks. I mean some may still see that as a massive amount, others might see that number and think you know what, we don't need to worry. What you think is up to you, but just thought I would throw that out there.

Other usual links:

CIC - The refugee system in Canada
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/canada.asp

CIC - How Canada is helping Syrian and Iraqi refugees
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/crisis/canada-response.asp

CIC - Helping Syrian and Iraqi refugees
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/crisis/syria-iraq.asp

CIC - FAQs - On the page, scroll down the page and click on "Syrian and Iraqi refugees" for all the CIC FAQ's on this topic.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/ENGLISH/helpcentre/results-by-topic.asp?t=11

LinkedIn Post - How Justin Trudeau Can Improve Canada’s Immigration Policies
There are also a few separate mentions around EE and Syrian Refugees mentioned on this LinkedIn article, but not directly discussing the effect of both topics together.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-justin-trudeau-can-improve-canadas-immigration-colin-r-?trk=prof-post&trkSplashRedir=true&forceNoSplash=true

Thank you

 

[prcand]

As the OP said it from the start, this is just a mere speculation. The fact only is that CIC is working around the clock to process refugees, and the article is silent on the express entry process.

Maybe there will not be a draw until 2016, or maybe there will be even next week. Who knows? As long as there is no explicit statement (from Canadian authorities) directly correlating refugee processing to the detriment of express entry, everything discussed here in this thread, is just as it is. Speculations, nothing more nothing less.

No need to have emotions high and running. If only to paint a background why I have high stakes on the criticality of timings, but at the same time, I don't throw strong emotions. My express entry will expire on Jan 2nd, 2016. I'm sitting on around 1,000 points. So I NEED that ITA asap, but I am not complaining if only to help the refugees. Hence, I encourage everyone to just chill.

 

[RKCK]

One way to look at this situation is that if CIC can process 25k refugees then they should be able to quicken the express entry process.

It's the same glass is half empty, half full story.

 

[ybjianada]

Here is what I think:
1. As some other posters have said, for foreign nationals, PR / ITA is not an entitlement.
2. Politics is about looking good. Accepting Syrian refugees will make Canada look good. Of course, they will prioritize them over EE applicants.
3. Some responses here on this thread that are urging patience are from people who have already been granted PR and therefore can afford to take such a stance.
4. Those in the pool and are affected by the apparent suspension of draw (if that is indeed the case) are in a worse position than those who have submitted their PR application.

 

[prcand]

Agree. Thanks for the summary. Indeed, it's all about perspective, depending on which part of the fence you are at.

Here is what I think:
1. As some other posters have said, for foreign nationals, PR / ITA is not an entitlement.
2. Politics is about looking good. Accepting Syrian refugees will make Canada look good. Of course, they will prioritize them over EE applicants.
3. Some responses here on this thread that are urging patience are from people who have already been granted PR and therefore can afford to take such a stance.
4. Those in the pool and are affected by the apparent suspension of draw (if that will indeed be the case) are in a worse position than those who have submitted their PR application.

 

[t3kids]

As much as i feel for the refugees and would like all the help they can give them done, I am in the pool and have a PGWP expiring in March. So i am also worried about what is happening. I can do both without being called non-empathetic.