CHC, Islamabad Spouse Sponsorship Timeline 2009 -2010

[ss2010]

is there any effect on application if we send too much emails about the inquiry

 

[mainbucha]

Very well said Bro
really makes sense that's what I tell to my friends when they complain, anyway nobody force anyone to live in Canada or Pakistan. I always tell to my complaining friends, just go and live in Pak. We should think about normal level public, most of the public in Pakistan, not only about rich and politicians. We work here just for one week even on minimum wages, and buy most of the necessities, but don't even think that normal worker can do it in Pakistan.
Sorry and sorry again, if there is anything offended.

I realize that we are going bit off-topic here, but here are my three cents on this debate.
The cornerstone of any socitey's success -- and welfare of its people -- depends primarly on the accessibility and provision of three things to its citizens on an equal basis:

1) Food -- In Canada, the average bill of the basic food items -- meats, vegetables, milk, fruit etc -- for a person is around $150 a month. Even a person working on a minimum wage can afford these items (assuming a minium wage salary of $400 a week). Now you tell me, how much a laborer makes in Pakistan? 300 rupees a day? How can this person afford to pay for meat or even milk for his family when a single liter of milk can cost up to 70 rupees.

2) Health -- Yes, in Pakistan, you can have very easy access to private health care -- but only if you can afford high bills of the mony-sucking doctors. Poor people can only afford to be pushed around in pulic hospitals, where they are treated like second-class citizens. In Canada, too, the health system is far from perfect -- with long delays for some procedures. But at least, the core of th heatlh system is based on on equality. Anybody can see a family physician, without having to pay a cent. Even the wealthiest people can't jump the queues to see specialists, and they have to look to the US or abroad.

3) Public Education -- One only have to see how many poor kids of school-age can be seen working in auto shops or dishwashing in restuatants or toiling in agriculture fields. We can only lament the state of public education in Pakistan: schools with no basic infrastructure, poorly educated teachers themselves, vilages with no high schools. In Canada, on the other hand, the free and equal accessibility to primay and secondary education is the key element of public policy. The literacy rate of close to 100% is a testament to the success of public education. In Canda, every kid gets the same oppurtunity and platform for basic education and government loans will be available for every student for pursuing higher education.

I know we can complain about favoritism -- or napotisim -- in Canada. Here 'safarish' is replaced with references, but at least in Canada, the basic oppurtunities are available to every citizen. If you work hard, the rewards will follow sooner or later. I have never come across anybody in Canada who has university or college education and been without work for a long time. What about Pakistan? Rishwat or nepotisim will get you the job regardless of your educational competencies-- otherwise, good luck.

 

[mainbucha]

I guess it does and they put your email address in filter, so your email won't get to them anymore.
Anyway there is no point to email them a lot because if they feel that they need to answer any enquiries then they do reply but if they don't feel to reply for any specific enquiry, then it doesn't matter how many times you send the email, they will not reply

is there any effect on application if we send too much emails about the inquiry

 

[Saisn]

Became-a-loner is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

My case was REFUSED 2 yrs ago because of this. My hubby was in USA while my case was bing processed in CHC-ISB.

Then my hubby moved to Canada and we applied again ....Now I am waiting....AGAIN.......

Thanks become-a-lover and Imtihaan,
My Sponsor application is already approved and it is close to be reviewed. After sponsorship approval I moved to canada and then moved here in summer.
Do they have in their system that I am not living in canada or they will find out after my wife will complete supp imm forms and others?

 

[mainbucha]

If they want they can check very easily that you are not in Canada. Trust me, I am not just saying, I have experienced this thing. I don't know how but they give you exact dates when you left and entered with proofs. As we all know they have very good tracking system

Thanks become-a-lover and Imtihaan,
My Sponsor application is already approved and it is close to be reviewed. After sponsorship approval I moved to canada and then moved here in summer.
Do they have in their system that I am not living in canada or they will find out after my wife will complete supp imm forms and others?

 

[raptorsfan]

I realize that we are going bit off-topic here, but here are my three cents on this debate.
The cornerstone of any socitey's success -- and welfare of its people -- depends primarly on the accessibility and provision of three things to its citizens on an equal basis:

1) Food -- In Canada, the average bill of the basic food items -- meats, vegetables, milk, fruit etc -- for a person is around $150 a month. Even a person working on a minimum wage can afford these items (assuming a minium wage salary of $400 a week). Now you tell me, how much a laborer makes in Pakistan? 300 rupees a day? How can this person afford to pay for meat or even milk for his family when a single liter of milk can cost up to 70 rupees.

2) Health -- Yes, in Pakistan, you can have very easy access to private health care -- but only if you can afford high bills of the mony-sucking doctors. Poor people can only afford to be pushed around in pulic hospitals, where they are treated like second-class citizens. In Canada, too, the health system is far from perfect -- with long delays for some procedures. But at least, the core of th heatlh system is based on on equality. Anybody can see a family physician, without having to pay a cent. Even the wealthiest people can't jump the queues to see specialists, and they have to look to the US or abroad.

3) Public Education -- One only have to see how many poor kids of school-age can be seen working in auto shops or dishwashing in restuatants or toiling in agriculture fields. We can only lament the state of public education in Pakistan: schools with no basic infrastructure, poorly educated teachers themselves, vilages with no high schools. In Canada, on the other hand, the free and equal accessibility to primay and secondary education is the key element of public policy. The literacy rate of close to 100% is a testament to the success of public education. In Canda, every kid gets the same oppurtunity and platform for basic education and government loans will be available for every student for pursuing higher education.

I know we can complain about favoritism -- or napotisim -- in Canada. Here 'safarish' is replaced with references, but at least in Canada, the basic oppurtunities are available to every citizen. If you work hard, the rewards will follow sooner or later. I have never come across anybody in Canada who has university or college education and been without work for a long time. What about Pakistan? Rishwat or nepotisim will get you the job regardless of your educational competencies-- otherwise, good luck.

Yeh...but people forget their values here...the kids grow old and then do batameezi with their parents...kyon keh unkay andar suar ka ghosht hota hain jo wo bahir khatay hain...the parents can't say n e thing back b/c the kids have all the nitty gritty "rights" to do what they want...pakistan hota na toh doh kaan keh neechay deh kay aulad ko line peh latay parents...no doubt Canada is giving all these goodie goodie facilities but this Canadian system teaches you attitude and arrogance against parents...and this starts in high school...aur yeh hain yahoodi sazish...another note...for all this GOODIE GOODIE facilities....we pay TAXES...i didn't see the word taxes even once in ur essay...

I dunno whether u got ur citizenship yet or not...but in the Citizenship oath they say that "we will help our fellow Canadian"....now...I am driving and there is road block ahead but I don't know...a person from the incoming traffic side could tell me that "oh just turn from this road here and don't go ahead...there is a traffic block"....but no...no1 is going to help out the other...now lets look at a similar situation in Pakistan....In september there was a lot of rain in Karachi....I was passing by the old airport area...the road was flooded and there was traffic block...every person from the incoming traffic kept telling us "aagay raasta band hain"...now this is akhlaq...

now..i didn't say rich or poor...i said pakistan is an amazing place to live if 1 is making a lot of money and has lots of money...In fact I know a few people here who work for 6 months and then live in Karachi for 6 months...they have an amazing Condo in Clifton...aiyashi ki life hain...I know a few who permanently moved to pak from here and are making 4 lakhs/month and they have house in DHA....

Yes, we have the facility here...but we pay for it via Taxes....I think u r new to Canada....as far as rishwat goes....In Toronto, Ontario Drive Test Centre...there is no bigger place....There are many tamil and desi instructors who work with the Examiners and all it takes is $1200 for G license. We now have incompetent and risky drivers on the road. They are not a threat just to themselves but to other drivers as well.

Now u r probably wondering "why are u here?, go to pakistan then" I would....I am only here b/c I live with my parents...my parents brought me here...and I can't leave them...jab chirya ka bacha chirya ka ghosla chorth keh chala jaata hain toh chirya ko kitna dukh hota hain...this is the place for my parents...i m here b/c they want me close to them....otherwise i would be in Pakistan...with a good job...nice car...naukar...driver...bavarchee...everything....even here mashallah seh i have a good job...a small business for self...nice car...parents house is hugeeee...but...there is no sukoon...i grew up here....came here in 1996....seen my parents struggle...pakistan lifestyle was something else...Canada can't beat Defense and Clifton...

 

[Still_Not_Getting_Any]

A Quickie...

I've been asked to deposit RFPR fee. they say my sponsor should pay that in canada. Can i submit the fee over here via standard chartered bank? or must it be in canada?

PLEASe Prompt answer is appreciated

 

[MrOctober]

Yeh...but people forget their values here...the kids grow old and then do batameezi with their parents...kyon keh unkay andar suar ka ghosht hota hain jo wo bahir khatay hain...the parents can't say n e thing back b/c the kids have all the nitty gritty "rights" to do what they want...pakistan hota na toh doh kaan keh neechay deh kay aulad ko line peh latay parents...no doubt Canada is giving all these goodie goodie facilities but this Canadian system teaches you attitude and arrogance against parents...and this starts in high school...aur yeh hain yahoodi sazish...another note...for all this GOODIE GOODIE facilities....we pay TAXES...i didn't see the word taxes even once in ur essay...

I dunno whether u got ur citizenship yet or not...but in the Citizenship oath they say that "we will help our fellow Canadian"....now...I am driving and there is road block ahead but I don't know...a person from the incoming traffic side could tell me that "oh just turn from this road here and don't go ahead...there is a traffic block"....but no...no1 is going to help out the other...now lets look at a similar situation in Pakistan....In september there was a lot of rain in Karachi....I was passing by the old airport area...the road was flooded and there was traffic block...every person from the incoming traffic kept telling us "aagay raasta band hain"...now this is akhlaq...

now..i didn't say rich or poor...i said pakistan is an amazing place to live if 1 is making a lot of money and has lots of money...In fact I know a few people here who work for 6 months and then live in Karachi for 6 months...they have an amazing Condo in Clifton...aiyashi ki life hain...I know a few who permanently moved to pak from here and are making 4 lakhs/month and they have house in DHA....

Yes, we have the facility here...but we pay for it via Taxes....I think u r new to Canada....as far as rishwat goes....In Toronto, Ontario Drive Test Centre...there is no bigger place....There are many tamil and desi instructors who work with the Examiners and all it takes is $1200 for G license. We now have incompetent and risky drivers on the road. They are not a threat just to themselves but to other drivers as well.

Now u r probably wondering "why are u here?, go to pakistan then" I would....I am only here b/c I live with my parents...my parents brought me here...and I can't leave them...jab chirya ka bacha chirya ka ghosla chorth keh chala jaata hain toh chirya ko kitna dukh hota hain...this is the place for my parents...i m here b/c they want me close to them....otherwise i would be in Pakistan...with a good job...nice car...naukar...driver...bavarchee...everything....even here mashallah seh i have a good job...a small business for self...nice car...parents house is hugeeee...but...there is no sukoon...i grew up here....came here in 1996....seen my parents struggle...pakistan lifestyle was something else...Canada can't beat Defense and Clifton...

Raptorsfan bro, first of all congratulations that the NBA season is saved and we can expect to see our Toronto raptors in action!

In terms of our conversation on the forum, I firmly believe values in any country vary from family to family.I have seen very places that you have mentioned- Defense housing, for example-- where rich children love the western culture so much as they own it. Just see the girls smoking openly, wearing jeans and shirts. Please clarify, if this is Pakistani culture?

Secondly, what saazish are you talking about? It is very convenient to wash off our own problems on others. I have seen so many girls in hijabs and scarves. Here we have religious freedom. In Pakistan, you need not go far and just look at Shia Sunni conflict and it's horrific aftermath in terms of lives lost.

I would also mention that I am not new to Canada , and have lived here for over 12 years, so I know the system here probably as much as you do -- more of just a matter of different interpretation. In terms of corruption, I never mentioned that Canada is perfect. Unfortunately, it got beaten by five other countries as the 6th most transparent country in the world ( check out transparency international rankings: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index). Oh yeah, what about Pakistan? Ranked 143. I am giving these figures because anecdotal evidence can't be always accurate.

Again, as I mentioned, if you are rich ,you have more resources and more choices. In Pakistan you can get more comfort out of your money because of cheap labour, and other ways to make money work -- rightly or wrongly-- for you.

Canada is not that advanced so as to grow money-harvesting trees! Thus public has to bear brunt of taxes. But again , Pakistan , too, would be a much better place too, if a fair tax system was in place.

 

[mainbucha]

As long as I know, you make a draft from Pakistan too, but please check with them, just call them for general questions and they will tell you

A Quickie...

I've been asked to deposit RFPR fee. they say my sponsor should pay that in canada. Can i submit the fee over here via standard chartered bank? or must it be in canada?

PLEASe Prompt answer is appreciated

 

[Raymasood]

No i havent heard i hope Inshallaha in December we will b hearing soon ...............urs n my hubby tym line almost same.

i am here too....we have same time line ALLAH kary ham sub ko koye ache news mily jaldy

"CHC ry CHC tere kon si kal sidhey"

 

[i.imran]

Hey guys m new here ,i wish to sponsor my husband and 1 yr old daughter living with me in pak. can anyone provide the list of documents that we need.Do we have to do medical prior to filing application and till when is it valid?

 

[in process]

Hi,

my wife file received in islamabad feb 3, 2011 and still waiting for next response.

secondly
my children citizen application received in islamabad september 2, 2011 and before a week i received official receipt which was hand written and they returned all original documents.. somebody can tell me the processing steps of outside born citizen application.

regards

 

[became-a-loner]

A Quickie...

I've been asked to deposit RFPR fee. they say my sponsor should pay that in canada. Can i submit the fee over here via standard chartered bank? or must it be in canada?

PLEASe Prompt answer is appreciated

In response to your quickie

You can ask your wife to pay online @cic.gc.ca through her credit card, print out online receipt and forward it as attachment through email and fax it as well if you wish to .......

 

[became-a-loner]

Hey guys m new here ,i wish to sponsor my husband and 1 yr old daughter living with me in pak. can anyone provide the list of documents that we need.Do we have to do medical prior to filing application and till when is it valid?

I assume your are citizen because if you are a Permanent resident you wont be able to sponsor unless you are in Canada, list of documents include, police clearance, nikkah nama, translation, Form B since u have a child as well, his educational documents original, copy of his ID card with translation, and if you can provide any evidence that you are intended to move back to Canada will be helpful to determine your case. you may be asked to provide pictures of functions and the all-inclusive Rukhsati, marriage invitation card, and family pictures. In terms of medical, the best time to do it is after six months of application transfer to Islamabad..... I know you are rolling your eyes by now but our heads are rolling after applying. hope it helps

 

[Imtihaan]

Thanks become-a-lover and Imtihaan,
My Sponsor application is already approved and it is close to be reviewed. After sponsorship approval I moved to canada and then moved here in summer.
Do they have in their system that I am not living in canada or they will find out after my wife will complete supp imm forms and others?

My hubby used to commute to canada twice a week sometimes once a week. They somehow found out "GOD KNOWS HOW" and they questioned him and called him for an interview in CANADA and asked him for proofs that hes been living in canada since he filed my application. He couldnt convince him 100% since he did commute on irregular basis. The judg gave him benefit of doubt BUT the CHC-ISB Refused it cuz they werent convinced.

Well we didnt know and we wasted our time. You have a choice now. I suggest u think about it before you take any step. I am sure you dont wanna waste ur time in WAITING and WAITING...since process is longer now. In 2006 , the processing time was 6 months and my case took 8 months to refuse . Good luck.

You need to move to canada for the rest of the processing time. Thats my advice Bro.