CBC on citizenship backlog
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No news here, really, EXCEPT that his case got the VIP treatment after he was featured in the news. Don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge him his rightfully owed citizenship status, but it disgusts me that the CIC officials don't own up to the mess they've created and tell him "sorry, you're a screwed as everyone else".
I DEMAND to be treated as badly as everyone else. And so should he. That's what citizenship is about.
I DEMAND to be treated as badly as everyone else. And so should he. That's what citizenship is about.
Am I the only one that finds that story to be ridiculous? I mean come on, the guy waited for over 40 years to apply for his citizenship? So basically he had to renew his PR over and over again? Wouldn't it be easier to apply for a citizenship in the 70s. LOL he would had waited 3 months or less. Plus he is married to a Canadian, lived almost all his life in Canada...wouldn't he be proud to be Canadian? or looking forward to establish his Canadian identity? I believe that's a prime example of someone who didn't care about Canada. Just because now he wants to stay longer than 3 months in the USA he is running after the Canadian Passport. I think he should wait like everyone else.
That's from page 11 of this ATIP currently posted on Andrew Griffith's Multicultural Meanderings blog: http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/713744-citizenship-and-immigration-canada-management.htmlbasharar said:
It's (evidently) true for the July-September 2012 (Q2 FY2012-2013)
farrous13 and RussCan, I think you're missing the bottom line behind all these what someone should do and when.
The bottom line is ridiculous processing times, excessive bureaucracy and bad communication habits from CIC.
Any lodged application must be processed in a reasonable time, either approved or rejected, without much nonsense.
Even if there's delay caused by RQ or additional documents request, by no means it justifies 3-4 year processing time.
The bottom line is ridiculous processing times, excessive bureaucracy and bad communication habits from CIC.
Any lodged application must be processed in a reasonable time, either approved or rejected, without much nonsense.
Even if there's delay caused by RQ or additional documents request, by no means it justifies 3-4 year processing time.
I agree. I just find the story of the guy ridiculous. I am not saying that the bottom line statement is wrong. I am not commenting on the what the story is trying to portray. But I do believe that the guy's story is not in context. Better examples are out there of people who wasted no time to apply for their citizenships and had established their ties with Canada as a homeland. Yet their citizenship applications are just a burden on their life...
EasyRider said:
I mean citizenship is a serious matter, but once you satisfied proposed conditions and lodged application, for bureaucracy it becomes a technical issue-- assess application, run all background checks, render decision, print certificate, organize ceremony and register new citizen. It's purely technical and logistical task. So, on average it takes around several months to a year in the most countries, just 2 months in some where this process is organized effectively like Australia. That's why when people find out that technical issues may take several years, it raises eyebrows. It's just not normal.
And to expand on what Easyrider said, there is no provision of the Citizenship Act which states that PRs have to apply for citizenship by a certain time or else. I think it's important to not blame other applicants for the CIC's mismanagement. Turning against ourselves doesn't help us.
Look. Do I wish that his interview had better reflected the fact that his situation is but a drop in the bucket in terms of CIC policies which fundamentally disrespect its clientele? Clearly. Like farrous13, I wish that the story had done a better job of putting things in context. The situation isn't just about one older German dude with very good English, a nice house and a sizable pension. It's about 40,000 or more RQ recipients and 350,000 or more citizenship applicants experiencing the unreasonable delays and opacity of the CIC.
I would be interested to know if he actually does get his citizenship by April.
Look. Do I wish that his interview had better reflected the fact that his situation is but a drop in the bucket in terms of CIC policies which fundamentally disrespect its clientele? Clearly. Like farrous13, I wish that the story had done a better job of putting things in context. The situation isn't just about one older German dude with very good English, a nice house and a sizable pension. It's about 40,000 or more RQ recipients and 350,000 or more citizenship applicants experiencing the unreasonable delays and opacity of the CIC.
I would be interested to know if he actually does get his citizenship by April.
But this appeared on the CBC Vancouver segment "Go Public" which almost exclusively pursues stories suggested by the public. This guy and his wife approached "Go Public" with their story. Others could do the same. I think if people strongly believe that this is not the best Vancouver RQ story they should suggest another one, rather than just critiquing this guy for not representing other people's perspectives well enough.EasyRider said:
The guy's case is not too appealing nor representative. He needs his Canadian citizenship to spend more time in a third country. Though his right, I don't feel necessarily sympathetic. I think Eileen's case is more iconic: an American, intelligent, having strong ties with Canada, obviously not someone applying for a passport only - I think it's obsolutely ridiculous the way she has been treated by the CIC.
Yes, maybe they could find more sympathetic case. But I, for instance, can't go to the reporters because I'm not it that position (at least yet). So, the presentation and effect of this article is less than desirable for applicants stuck with RQ. Just look at the comments where the majority focus on the fact that "a guy is an old rich German who wants to jump the queue to live in the US", where the talk is about delays for up to 5 years for Pete's sake! Disappointing people's reaction.RussCan said: