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Canadian siblings - Fostering family reunification

Chiptole

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Canadian sibling may fetch points but imo it won't be something like 600. 10-20 points to give the edge but will also keep the pool competitive.

Whether it is int student or sibling factor, everything comes down to economy. Honestly speaking loonie is not doing fine. So anything will be done to keep the outwardremittance short.

If you question about sibling ties.there are many immigrants who come from china and south east asia region. And we all know the sibling tie is strong in those regions.
 

CANDACEC

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kryt0n said:
Can you please link to the discussions where they say "we need to change ee because of siblings", please? Maybe I missed something.

Please see below letter Point 3 it all started with siblings.

pm.gc.ca/eng/minister-immigration-refugees-and-citizenship-mandate-letter
 

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Please see below letter Point 3 it all started with siblings.

pm.gc.ca/eng/minister-immigration-refugees-and-citizenship-mandate-letter
That was one request out of many. It didn't kick off anything. The word "sibling" is only mentioned once in the entire document.
 

CANDACEC

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That was one request out of many. It didn't kick off anything. The word "sibling" is only mentioned once in the entire document.
This was request from MR Trudeau it has to be acted upon dosent matter what you or I say. IF you read all the points most of them have been implemented the once that are reaming will soon be implemented. The government is not fool to just give away 600 points just because you have a sibling in Canada. But I think they would give enough points so that all the applicants that are eligible under EE and have siblings will get picked up sooner. May be 50 or 30 points and I think that is fair enough they never promised PR but they promised additional points to provide more opportunities. So no one knows 30 or 40 or 50 or may be even 10 :p.

Lead government-wide efforts to resettle 25,000 refugees from Syria in the coming months. DONE

As part of the Annual Immigration Levels Plan for 2016, bring forward a proposal to double the number of entry applications for parents and grandparents of immigrants to 10,000 a year. DONE

Give additional points under the Entry Express system to provide more opportunities for applicants who have Canadian siblings. pending

Increase the maximum age for dependents to 22, from 19, to allow more Canadians to bring their children to Canada.DONE

Bring forward a proposal regarding permanent residency for new spouses entering Canada.DONE

Develop a plan to reduce application processing times for sponsorship, citizenship and other visas.DONE

Fully restore the Interim Federal Health Program that provides limited and temporary health benefits to refugees and refugee claimants.pending

Establish an expert human rights panel to help you determine designated countries of origin, and provide a right to appeal refugee decisions for citizens from these countries.pending

Modify the temporary foreign workers program to eliminate the $1,000 Labour Market Impact Assessment fee to hire caregivers and work with provinces and territories to develop a system of regulated companies to hire caregivers on behalf of families.pending

Lead efforts to facilitate the temporary entry of low risk travelers, including business visitors, and lift the visa requirement for Mexico.Done

Work with the Minister of Justice and the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness to repeal provisions in the Citizenship Act that give the government the right to strip citizenship from dual nationals. in process

Eliminate regulations that remove the credit given to international students for half of the time that they spend in Canada and regulations that require new citizens to sign a declaration that they intend to reside in Canada. Done
 

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This was request from MR Trudeau it has to be acted upon dosent matter what you or I say. IF you read all the points most of them have been implemented the once that are reaming will soon be implemented. The government is not fool to just give away 600 points just because you have a sibling in Canada. But I think they would give enough points so that all the applicants that are eligible under EE and have siblings will get picked up sooner. May be 50 or 30 points and I think that is fair enough they never promised PR but they promised additional points to provide more opportunities. So no one knows 30 or 40 or 50 or may be even 10 :p.

Lead government-wide efforts to resettle 25,000 refugees from Syria in the coming months. DONE

As part of the Annual Immigration Levels Plan for 2016, bring forward a proposal to double the number of entry applications for parents and grandparents of immigrants to 10,000 a year. DONE

Give additional points under the Entry Express system to provide more opportunities for applicants who have Canadian siblings. pending

Increase the maximum age for dependents to 22, from 19, to allow more Canadians to bring their children to Canada.DONE

Bring forward a proposal regarding permanent residency for new spouses entering Canada.DONE

Develop a plan to reduce application processing times for sponsorship, citizenship and other visas.DONE

Fully restore the Interim Federal Health Program that provides limited and temporary health benefits to refugees and refugee claimants.pending

Establish an expert human rights panel to help you determine designated countries of origin, and provide a right to appeal refugee decisions for citizens from these countries.pending

Modify the temporary foreign workers program to eliminate the $1,000 Labour Market Impact Assessment fee to hire caregivers and work with provinces and territories to develop a system of regulated companies to hire caregivers on behalf of families.pending

Lead efforts to facilitate the temporary entry of low risk travelers, including business visitors, and lift the visa requirement for Mexico.Done

Work with the Minister of Justice and the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness to repeal provisions in the Citizenship Act that give the government the right to strip citizenship from dual nationals. in process

Eliminate regulations that remove the credit given to international students for half of the time that they spend in Canada and regulations that require new citizens to sign a declaration that they intend to reside in Canada. Done
OK, sure. I've said they might get some points but they won't get 600.

Either way, this letter doesn't obligate them to do anything. Trump promised a wall after all.
 

CANDACEC

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kryt0n said:
OK, sure. I've said they might get some points but they won't get 600.

Either way, this letter doesn't obligate them to do anything. Trump promised a wall after all.
This is not a promise from a presidential candidate to his voters this is a official letter written by PM of Canada to ministry of immigration. And you say it doesn't obligate them to do anything lol you must be kidding.
 

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This is not a promise from a presidential candidate to his voters this is a official letter written by PM of Canada to ministry of immigration. And you say it doesn't obligate them to do anything lol you must be kidding.
It also states that it's expected to be done over their 4 year mandate, so MAYBE it won't happen till next year?
 

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It is really funny to see some people demanding 600 points for a DNA match. I fail to see any reason that would imply that people with siblings are more successfull than compared to others. Moreover, every person on this planet is 50th cousin of each other so if you start giving 600 points for a dna match whole humanity is entitled for a Canadian PR!
 

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It also states that it's expected to be done over their 4 year mandate, so MAYBE it won't happen till next year?
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That I dont know what I am saying is it will happen and I dont think that there will be separate stream just some extra points to applicants with Canadian siblings. So that their place in the pool can be boosted a bit. I can see in near future International students, french speaking candidates and applicants with Canadian siblings will have a upper edge among the other candidates.
 

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That I dont know what I am saying is it will happen and I dont think that there will be separate stream just some extra points to applicants with Canadian siblings. So that their place in the pool can be boosted a bit. I can see in near future International students, french speaking candidates and applicants with Canadian siblings will have a upper edge among the other candidates.
OK
 

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logan7712 said:
It is really funny to see some people demanding 600 points for a DNA match. I fail to see any reason that would imply that people with siblings are more successfull than compared to others. Moreover, every person on this planet is 50th cousin of each other so if you start giving 600 points for a dna match whole humanity is entitled for a Canadian PR!
I dont completely agree with you if you have a sibling in Canada they are great help. when you arrive in Canada you have a place to crash then they guide you in your job search and also help you adopt to new culture. I have seen many families going back just because it is difficult for them gelup in the new community. Also if you have Canadian siblings you have strong reasons to fight and and stay. Siblings doesn't mean 50th cousin only the direct brother and sister.
 

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I dont completely agree with you if you have a sibling in Canada they are great help. when you arrive in Canada you have a place to crash then they guide you in your job search and also help you adopt to new culture. I have seen many families going back just because it is difficult for them gelup in the new community. Also if you have Canadian siblings you have strong reasons to fight and and stay. Siblings doesn't mean 50th cousin only the direct brother and sister.
But there is also no obligation to stay with your sibling.

Also, a sibling will bring their family. Once the spouse gets pr they can bring their siblings... That's why the points increase must be small.
 

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CANDACEC said:
I dont completely agree with you if you have a sibling in Canada they are great help. when you arrive in Canada you have a place to crash then they guide you in your job search and also help you adopt to new culture. I have seen many families going back just because it is difficult for them gelup in the new community. Also if you have Canadian siblings you have strong reasons to fight and and stay. Siblings doesn't mean 50th cousin only the direct brother and sister.
I might agree somewhat with the first part of your statement but regarding 50th cousin, i think you failed to see what i am trying to say, what i mean is if you start giving 600 points to a person because of sibling factor, then that person has siblings in his family country and so on....so where will this cycle stop?
 

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I might agree somewhat with the first part of your statement but regarding 50th cousin, i think you failed to see what i am trying to say, what i mean is if you start giving 600 points to a person because of sibling factor, then that person has siblings in his family country and so on....so where will this cycle stop?
Yes, completely agree. That's why the points increase, if any, must be small.