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Canadian siblings - Fostering family reunification

CANDACEC

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kryt0n said:
But there is also no obligation to stay with your sibling.

Also, a sibling will bring their family. Once the spouse gets pr they can bring their siblings... That's why the points increase must be small.
Let me share a story with you guys. when my friend first came to Canada he lived with his sister who provided place and food introduced him to the community here. Since he did not need to worry about the food and shelter he concentrated on his job hunt and also his professional networking. After about 4 months he landed a nob B job in is own profession and he got this job just because of an personal reference. I am not sure how much experience you have about the Canadian job market, but let me tell you that your networking is if not more than equally important then your educations/ professional credentials. If some one arrives without any ties then he would have to settle down with what he gets thats why we see many doctors/software developers driving cabs. I dont say that they are incompetent but they can not sit at home and invest time looking for a job or creating professional network because they have to feed their family and pay bills. Once you start doing the odd jobs it becomes difficult to come back to your profession specially if you have a family to feed. But I have seen people who go back to college here and start their carrier all over again but it takes them years and not every one is willing to put such an effort.
 

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logan7712 said:
I might agree somewhat with the first part of your statement but regarding 50th cousin, i think you failed to see what i am trying to say, what i mean is if you start giving 600 points to a person because of sibling factor, then that person has siblings in his family country and so on....so where will this cycle stop?
MY Friend sibling points will only be awarded to direct brothers and sisters. So if some one has 3 brothers/sisters and all 3 gets the points then after that no one else from there family can get points and it ends there. I agree with the fact that their spouse can again offer points to their siblings.
 

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My best friend had to leave Canada after 4 years. She lived next door to her sister and her young niece and nephew. They were both born when she lived there with them. Her sister married a Canadian about 10 years ago and is now a Canadian citizen.

She was a highly qualified Nanny working with families in the UK and Australia and earned in excess of $70,000 a year. However, after her working holiday visa in Canada expired, she could only obtain an LMIA from Tim Hortons. She sweated there every day for 2 years until she had reached the four year worker rule limit. Her PR application pre EE was refused for a technicality. She's now back in Australia.

I would love and kill for her to go back to Canada but not just because she has a sibling there.
 

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CANDACEC said:
MY Friend sibling points will only be awarded to direct brothers and sisters. So if some one has 3 brothers/sisters and all 3 gets the points then after that no one else from there family can get points and it ends there. I agree with the fact that their spouse can again offer points to their siblings.
Exactly, it would be exponential! The only way they can give extra points and remove this is by only giving a handful of points, not 600!
 

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CANDACEC said:
Let me share a story with you guys. when my friend first came to Canada he lived with his sister who provided place and food introduced him to the community here. Since he did not need to worry about the food and shelter he concentrated on his job hunt and also his professional networking. After about 4 months he landed a nob B job in is own profession and he got this job just because of an personal reference. I am not sure how much experience you have about the Canadian job market, but let me tell you that your networking is if not more than equally important then your educations/ professional credentials. If some one arrives without any ties then he would have to settle down with what he gets thats why we see many doctors/software developers driving cabs. I dont say that they are incompetent but they can not sit at home and invest time looking for a job or creating professional network because they have to feed their family and pay bills. Once you start doing the odd jobs it becomes difficult to come back to your profession specially if you have a family to feed. But I have seen people who go back to college here and start their carrier all over again but it takes them years and not every one is willing to put such an effort.
TL;DR: my friend sucks at his job and needs significantly help from his family so he could land a job. If you don't have family help, you will end up driving a cab.

Does my summary sound good? I came here 6 years ago alone with my luggae, had to find a room to rent, a part time job to work in the weekend, and still be able to graduate from my uni, got a degree then a job. AND I still have had to wait in the pool for 2 years.

Those people who keep whining about 600 points for canadian siblings just want a free ride to PR. This is a economic immigration program, I reckon IRCC will eventually give bonus points for having Canadian siblings, but maximum will be around 10 or 20 points only. This is not a freaking sponsorship program so stop dreaming about 600 pts.
 

CANDACEC

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kryt0n said:
Exactly, it would be exponential! The only way they can give extra points and remove this is by only giving a handful of points, not 600!

Can I ask you a question due you think that all the candidates who are skilled workers should be giver priority over others?
 

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CANDACEC said:
Can I ask you a question due you think that all the candidates who are skilled workers should be giver priority over others?
YES! It's an economic program! Canada wants skilled labour!
 

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Alexios07 said:
TL;DR: my friend sucks at his job and needs significantly help from his family so he could land a job. If you don't have family help, you will end up driving a cab.

Does my summary sound good? I came here 6 years ago alone with my luggae, had to find a room to rent, a part time job to work in the weekend, and still be able to graduate from my uni, got a degree then a job. AND I still have had to wait in the pool for 2 years.

Those people who keep whining about 600 points for canadian siblings just want a free ride to PR. This is a economic immigration program, I reckon IRCC will eventually give bonus points for having Canadian siblings, but maximum will be around 10 or 20 points only. This is not a freaking sponsorship program so stop dreaming about 600 pts.
First of all I never said that he got his job because of his family (professional network is not your family). I am not whining about 600 points if you read my earlier posts I said give them some points 30 or 40 or 50 so that they can get some benefit of their Canadian ties. It was easy for you to survive on a part time job but think about a family landing in Canada without any ties they cannot live of an part time job.

Apart from this discussion I salute Alexios07 and all the other contributors who provide free guidance for all the aspiring immigrants.
 

CANDACEC

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kryt0n said:
YES! It's an economic program! Canada wants skilled labour!
next question due you also agree that skilled workers with Canadian ties should be given priority among all the others skilled workers?
 

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CANDACEC said:
next question due you also agree that skilled workers with Canadian ties should be given priority among all the others skilled workers?
Anyone who is prepared to move to a new country and start from scratch won't have the kind of personality that needs hand holding.

Having Canadian ties can extend to someone visiting Canada for a 3 week holiday or meeting some Canadians in their home country and getting to know them. Hell, READING about Canada can give you a cultural tie.

Having family in Canada may give you some emotional support if needed, however this isn't the days of a 1 month boat ride to immigrate, you can talk to relatives any time of the day.

Canada needs skilled workers who will contribute to society. Not given a free ride because their siblings worked harder to get to Canada first.
 

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CANDACEC said:
next question due you also agree that skilled workers with Canadian ties should be given priority among all the others skilled workers?
Its not due you. Its do you first go enhance your english to CLB 9-10 Get a masters degree work for 3 years you will get an ITA and PR easily. Then no need for sibling extra points do it on your own. If you dont deserve it as your english skills suggests accept the fact that you dont deserve.
 

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Alexios07 said:
TL;DR: my friend sucks at his job and needs significantly help from his family so he could land a job. If you don't have family help, you will end up driving a cab.

Does my summary sound good? I came here 6 years ago alone with my luggae, had to find a room to rent, a part time job to work in the weekend, and still be able to graduate from my uni, got a degree then a job. AND I still have had to wait in the pool for 2 years.
My 2 cents:

Your quote is very one sided in my opinion. Do you wish that what happened to you should happen upon others as well and that is the only indicator of success if they reach the other end? I know that is not what you mean (I hope) but it sure does feel like that in the context.

Don't get me wrong, I am happy that you defied all odds and got successful but some people are not as lucky. Having siblings in Canada helps with the integration. I know people who have been on both sides and not all of them are as successful on both sides.
 

CANDACEC

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fatani said:
Its not due you. Its do you first go enhance your english to CLB 9-10 Get a masters degree work for 3 years you will get an ITA and PR easily. Then no need for sibling extra points do it on your own. If you dont deserve it as your english skills suggests accept the fact that you dont deserve.

So you are going to judge a person just by a mistake in a sentence lol I know you will be get personal dont worry I can feel your pain. I regret that modern technology(auto correct) has corrupted my writing skills but dont you worry I would not need my siblings support to get my pr. I know how much pain you are going through since the bonus points has been announced for international students. From the past 1 year most of the international students(skilled workforce on PGWP) were suffering from the unfair point distribution no FSW applicant wrote in there support.
 

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logan7712 said:
I might agree somewhat with the first part of your statement but regarding 50th cousin, i think you failed to see what i am trying to say, what i mean is if you start giving 600 points to a person because of sibling factor, then that person has siblings in his family country and so on....so where will this cycle stop?
Easy solution: only award points to siblings of economic class migrants (and not those who became PR through family or refugee classes).

600 points for siblings is insanity. Just award 30/40 points. Young, well educated siblings can integrate faster and better than other non-CEC immigrants.
 

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CANDACEC said:
MY Friend sibling points will only be awarded to direct brothers and sisters. So if some one has 3 brothers/sisters and all 3 gets the points then after that no one else from there family can get points and it ends there. I agree with the fact that their spouse can again offer points to their siblings.
Hi!
Please define the word SIBLING according to Canadian immigration rules