Can Postdoc here apply for CES

[tyatca]

Hi all, I worked as a postdoctor in the university of Waterloo for one year holding the work permit. Can I request you guys help to see whether I am eligible to apply under CEC class? I am preparing my documents and will submit them if I am available. Thanks for all your help!

 

[nandoU]

As long as you have a year of experience (work) you are ok. Make sure you have your contract and up-to-date work permit. I was also a postdoc in Canada for many years.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/apply-who.asp

 

[tyatca]

Thanks a lot buddy! Do you know whether there is any requirement on the presentation of the contract? My one is only stated the job title, period of vacation and supervisor, that's all.

I have one more question, I want to apply with my wife, does she need to take the language test?

 

[aquareo]

There is no requirement for the employment contract as it varies with organization. However, you might want to put more emphasis on the reference letter (job duties, number of hours worked, salary...). If you are the primary applicant, you need to take language test and your wife can be co-applicant (dependent) and no need for her to take language test.

Thanks a lot buddy! Do you know whether there is any requirement on the presentation of the contract? My one is only stated the job title, period of vacation and supervisor, that's all.

I have one more question, I want to apply with my wife, does she need to take the language test?

 

[boven2012]

Hi,
I am also a postdoc but I am keeping my fingers crossed at the moment because I heard that CEC doesn’t consider T4A as a work experience.

Very recently a friend of mine was rejected under CEC saying his T4A will not be considered as work experience under CEC.

I believe most of the postdocs in Canada receive T4A’s 

 

[PMM]

Hi

Hi,
I am also a postdoc but I am keeping my fingers crossed at the moment because I heard that CEC doesn't consider T4A as a work experience.

Very recently a friend of mine was rejected under CEC saying his T4A will not be considered as work experience under CEC.

I believe most of the postdocs in Canada receive T4A's 

If you receive a T4A, then CIC won't consider it employment.

 

[lucky_CA]

You can definitely apply with postdoctoral work experience. Your NOC code is 4011.

I also worked at Univ of Waterloo as a Visiting Scholar (NOC:4011) and applied for CEC in May'2013.

I received T4 not T4A

I think you also have T4 if you are paid by the University. Check that.

Employment contract is optional document and there is no specification for that by CIC.

I would suggest you submit reference letter from your supervisor, T4, NOA, paystubs, record of employment from HR, etc. fas a proof of your employment.

Also, you can go to the HR department and ask them you need a record of employment / employment confirmation letter for immigration purpose. You can tell them what information you need on the letter. They will include all the information for CIC except the duties. You can include the duties in reference letter from your supervisor.

 

[Anmed]

Did any where mentioned in the CIC web page, T4A is not considered as employment? Just please dont write as you know, Postdoc get salary from external funding, some universities are considering it "other source". That is the reason it was showing in box 105, if u go and see in CRA webpage what is 105, it clearly explains!
My friend, you can ahead and apply, dont worry,
I hope u are also having T4, which will show income tax deduction from the salary.

 

[nandoU]

most of the postdocs in Canada get salary through their PI grants. And is up to the University organization if they consider postdocs as employees (T4) or scholars (T4A). I was a postdoc in two different institutions that treated us as employees, therefore I got T4's. So at least for postdocs with T4, like me, the positions is considered work experience.

 

[lucky_CA]

Income reported in T4A is considered as scholarship, bursary, fellowship, research award, etc. according to CRA. It is not considered as employment income, therefore, no tax is deducted.

Income reported in T4 is considered as employment income, which is tax deductible.

Although it is not clearly mentioned in CIC instruction and operating manuals, there are cases where application got rejected for showing income with T4A slips instead of T4.

Also, if you look at the checklist , as a proof of employment CIC is looking for T4 tax information slips (not T4A), which means they are particularly giving importance to T4 slips.

 

[boven2012]

Income reported in T4A is considered as scholarship, bursary, fellowship, research award, etc. according to CRA. It is not considered as employment income, therefore, no tax is deducted.

Income reported in T4 is considered as employment income, which is tax deductible.

Although it is not clearly mentioned in CIC instruction and operating manuals, there are cases where application got rejected for showing income with T4A slips instead of T4.

Also, if you look at the checklist , as a proof of employment CIC is looking for T4 tax information slips (not T4A), which means they are particularly giving importance to T4 slips.

I receive T4A and pay hefty taxes

 

[boven2012]

Hi


If you receive a T4A, then CIC won't consider it employment.

Yes, I receive T4A only NOT T4 like many other postdocs receive T4A's only.

So if CIC doesnt consider T4A as work experience I have wasted a lot of time and money towards PR

 

[boven2012]

Hello all,
Does anyone know why some postdocs receive T4A and not eligible for EI, RRSP etc. :'(

 

[saruyashi]

Income reported in T4A is considered as scholarship, bursary, fellowship, research award, etc. according to CRA. It is not considered as employment income, therefore, no tax is deducted.

Income reported in T4 is considered as employment income, which is tax deductible.

Although it is not clearly mentioned in CIC instruction and operating manuals, there are cases where application got rejected for showing income with T4A slips instead of T4.

Also, if you look at the checklist , as a proof of employment CIC is looking for T4 tax information slips (not T4A), which means they are particularly giving importance to T4 slips.

I am also Post-doc for about 5 years and i am also receiving T4A. I am paying tax for my Income, which is for the amount mentioned T4A. As per CRA, Post-doc income is considered as a employment/taxable income.
Additionally, Post-docs are in work permit. So I think it will not be a issue, either T4 or T4A. Hopefully, this issue will not reject our application.

 

[saruyashi]

Hi,
I am also a postdoc but I am keeping my fingers crossed at the moment because I heard that CEC doesn't consider T4A as a work experience.

Very recently a friend of mine was rejected under CEC saying his T4A will not be considered as work experience under CEC.

I believe most of the postdocs in Canada receive T4A's 

Hello Boven2012,
Is your friend is a post-doc or doing some other job and getting T4A? Your information scared me. I am January 2013 applicant.