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Great post queencougar. It validates that doing one's homework will lead to success. At first I was inclined to go together with my entire family. But realizing the cons of doing this tend to sway my opinion into going there first, settle for several weeks, before bringing them in. How about you guys? Are you bringing your family altogether or you'll go ahead?
 
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heatspine said:
Great post queencougar. It validates that doing one's homework will lead to success. At first I was inclined to go together with my entire family. But realizing the cons of doing this tend to sway my opinion into going there first, settle for several weeks, before bringing them in. How about you guys? Are you bringing your family altogether or you'll go ahead?
I am going to bring them for sure, I know it will be a tough situation, still. May god almighty help me through the hard n harsh situation in the coming days.
 

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Hi there, Tegnus. My husband is in IT, a wide field, I know! He works on software for the trucking industry now.
fariza, to answer your question - I will join my husband when PR comes.
I have our house and chattels to sell or put into storage and everything to tie up here, but I will wait until we are safely PR approved. With this process and the stories of last minute hitches and rejections, I do not feel safe to sell our house before that. Some may call me over-cautious, but at least my husband can be secure knowing we still have our lovely home in the UK and I know he is taking care of the Canada end. We work as a team even when apart and that is our strength, I think. The separation is difficult emotionally but I would say that it does solve many problems and save money later on when your dependants follow. I know it is not possible for everyone but I think it is worth thinking about with a practical head on, especially if like us you are not especially well off.
I sympathise with the difficulties of other nationalities using the same approach that we have. It must seem very hard indeed to find a way but there are surely many who have gone before us and that should give everyone hope that all kinds of routes can be explored.
I wanted to post here and say B.C is beautiful and although I have heard many immigrants complain about many aspects of the place, my husband loves it and truly thinks it is the right choice for us. I often think some people would moan even if they were in Paradise. ::)
We believe B.C is a dream worth dreaming.
 

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Thanx Queen...Wish your hubby to have PR to arrange you to join him soon. Hope all your delicate planning for better life rightly work out for you...
Rightly advise for effective initial settlement plan with lighter family load.... It seems BC and Vancouver still unveiling with lot of promise provide with a good back up plan put ahead.... All the very best
 

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BC is nice environmentally speaking. I have been here for 3 yrs now. Work? anywhere in Canada is almost the same. Just forget who you're or what your profession is in your home country when you arrive here. Degrees or your previous profession is not recognized here. My friend who is a licensed electrical engr is just considered a third year engineering stude so he just worked as a helper, pulling wires and climbing ceilings. He can't even do some wiring since he is not licensed here. He has to go to school again, do apprenticeship job, and pass the exam, if he wants to be a licensed electrical engr. It goes same to all regulated professions.

If you're not hard up in the Philippines and you have a job there, don't come here. I'm even considering going back home. Canada doesn't need engineers, pharmacists, doctors, foresters, your masters or doctorate for they already have these professionals here. What they need are labourers, cleaners and the like for the manufactring or construction industry. I'm not discouraging you guys who want to come here. Just prepare to eat your pride and start flexing your muscles. You don't need to use your brains here. This is reality. I'm not making this up. Ask anyone you know who are. Ask for their true views. Most of them hide this for they want to appear great to relatives in the Philippines. If you have jobs in the Philippines, don't resign. Don't sell your house either just to come here.
 

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Well Mundo thanks but this is in fact not a new story at all..... We all know the challenges and pitfalls of settling in a new country and I believe Most (If not all) of the applicant are quite aware of what you tried to getting us at... If possible besides all the cautionary notes to allow negative predictions give us some boost and ways to be able to survive (even may be not with the similar designation and dignity we might have currently in our own countries).... Giving up is fairly easy than to stick in and we all ultimately have options to go back home.... which sometimes might not conceived at all a judicious solution for life in many ways..... But everybody have their own reason and choice to defend... by the end of the day... I suppose
 

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It sounds like Mundo would recommend people rent their homes out before coming to Canada so they have a Plan B or C if necessary. Queencougar and her husband are making sure he is settled here (and her Visa is through) before they sell up. Careful considerations being given to such a big decision. Mundo's post was well written and made me feel sad for all the "wasted" talent we have in Canada. If you are living in Canada and you have constructive suggestions for how to improve the way we are doing things, phone or make an appointment to see your MLA or MP. Their numbers are easy to find online or in the phone book in the Blue Pages. Elections are coming and you may find they are more receptive now than ever to hear your suggestions and help find solutions.
Have a good day everyone!
 

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Yes. Mundo might have a point there. Though I think most of us are fully aware of this from the start. Immigrating is a risk - but it is something that everyone who has applied must have thoroughly thought of. Like what Fariza said on his previous post, it requires careful planning. It's not just taking a deep plunge and going in blindly. When the Visa arrives, then 1/2 of the process is done - and that is to fulfill the application routine. The other half is preparing for what's in store for the applicant and his/her dependents. My take on this is that - given the opportunity - then take it. Not everyone gets the chance to experience immigration. Success or failure lies on the individual. The hardships may and will come, but if you've prepared for it, then you can survive and be succesful.
 

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Mundo said:
BC is nice environmentally speaking. I have been here for 3 yrs now. Work? anywhere in Canada is almost the same. Just forget who you're or what your profession is in your home country when you arrive here. Degrees or your previous profession is not recognized here. My friend who is a licensed electrical engr is just considered a third year engineering stude so he just worked as a helper, pulling wires and climbing .

I really admire for sharing us the reality,and thank you for that!Like me,I have no relatives in Canada and just a coupe of friends.Like you,they told me also about their hardship.In spite of this negative feedback,I am dreaming to go there,i know it will not be easy,like you said,but i feel that it is the right decision for my family.
 
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Tegnus

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No matter where you are, especially if you are in Canada and you don't live up to your expectations, you should be fair and ask questions to yourself:

What have I done to improve my life quality? What courses have I taken? How did I improved myself to rise my price in job market?

Moving to Canada is just small step to get your dream, next and hardest step is to integrate - renew education, start new life with 0 experience etc.

"To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often." - Winston Churchill
 

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With respect to you, Mundo, I have to say that this is not always the case about jobs. My husband's previous experience was definitely what got him his current job and he is earning more than he was in the UK.
I am a teacher, which is a regulated profession and immigrant teachers I have spoken to and to whom my husband has spoken in Canada tell me something very different about their experience than the picture you paint.
I am not expecting to be able to go into my vocation at once and every professional should expect a portion of retraining from their old country's system to that of Canada, IMHO. Of course electricians have to retrain because the electrical voltage and wiring is very different and that is obviously a safety issue.
However, if I have to get another job in a different line then so be it. I am going there open to the possibilities of a new life and that may be a new job as well. As for status, there is nothing to be ashamed about working as a manual labourer.
 

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Tegnus said:
No matter where you are, especially if you are in Canada and you don't live up to your expectations, you should be fair and ask questions to yourself:

What have I done to improve my life quality? What courses have I taken? How did I improved myself to rise my price in job market?

Moving to Canada is just small step to get your dream, next and hardest step is to integrate - renew education, start new life with 0 experience etc.

"To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often." - Winston Churchill
I agree very much with this, Tegnus.
 

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Tegnus said:
No matter where you are, especially if you are in Canada and you don't live up to your expectations, you should be fair and ask questions to yourself:

What have I done to improve my life quality? What courses have I taken? How did I improved myself to rise my price in job market?

Moving to Canada is just small step to get your dream, next and hardest step is to integrate - renew education, start new life with 0 experience etc.

"To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often." - Winston Churchill
Perfectly said Tegnus.... No reason to disagree
 
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shaon31

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Tegnus said:
No matter where you are, especially if you are in Canada and you don't live up to your expectations, you should be fair and ask questions to yourself:

What have I done to improve my life quality? What courses have I taken? How did I improved myself to rise my price in job market?

Moving to Canada is just small step to get your dream, next and hardest step is to integrate - renew education, start new life with 0 experience etc.

"To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often." - Winston Churchill
Very much agree with Tegnus.
 

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A good read: (lifted from www.byebyeblightly.com)

The Big Mistake

Q. What is the most common mistake in planning a new life in Canada?

A. Spending too much time looking at Canadian real estate websites - spending too little time making sure you will survive financially.

To move to another country, you need strong motivation. Motivation for Canada is easy. Canada simply offers a better quality of life - whether you're moving from a developed country like Britain, or a developing country like India.

Canada offers fantastic houses at affordable prices. It does no harm to look at a few houses in Canada - it's great fun, it keeps your Canadian dreams alive, and it gives you some idea of where you might like to live in Canada.

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Too many people have come to Canada and eaten into their savings, unable to find work. Unless you have an income from investments, your NUMBER 1 priority in planning your move should be to focus on making a living in Canada. More specifically, make sure Canadian employers will accept your qualifications and work experience. More specifically still, ensure you will be able to find work - any kind of work - until your ideal job comes up.

Some migrants, even from developed countries such as the USA and UK have been shocked to discover they need to take extra exams to work in Canada. A further blow many newcomers face is to be offered a job at the bottom of the career ladder, after leaving more senior positions in their home countries. It happens this way for many immigrants. The consolation is that, if you are truly capable in your job, once you have a little Canadian experience, career advancement can be rapid.

The following Canadian employment statistics are sobering:
One quarter of recent degree-qualified migrants are working in jobs that people without tertiary qualifications can do.
After three years in Canada, only one half of degree-qualified migrants get jobs relevant to their degrees.
Average earnings in Y2K for degree qualified male migrants, aged 25 to 54, who arrived in Canada during the 1990's, were $42,000. Average earnings for male Canadians were $66,000.
You should be focused on moving somewhere in Canada where your skills are needed. As far as climate goes, many of us would prefer to move to British Columbia's dry valleys, such as the Okanagan Valley. But will you be able to get a job there? If not, then your "ideal location" is less than ideal. Your truly ideal location is somewhere you will be able to get your first Canadian job and that all-important Canadian work experience to add to your resume.

Only when you have satisfactory answers to the following questions should you even think about applying for Permanent Residence in Canada. Do not assume anything. Check everything. It's your future that's at stake.

Are my qualifications sufficient for me to practise my profession / trade in Canada?
Is there a Canadian licencing authority for my profession / trade? Can I meet their requirements? If not, what will I need to do?
Is there any demand in Cananda for my particular skills? Where?
If you already have the right answers to these questions, congratulations, a better life in Canada awaits you.

If you don't, it's encouraging to note that, despite earlier job losses, in 2010 full-time jobs in Canada are growing in number and the Canadian economy appears to be weathering the economic downturn better than the USA and most other western economies.

A Final Word
I feel a little guilty for writing somewhat negatively. I hope I have not shattered your dreams. By all means, keep looking at houses for sale in Canada. Just make sure you'll be able to earn money in Canada when you get here. Then your Canadian dream may really come true.