BREAKING NEWS Bill C-6 finally passed in HoC, Now reading in Senate

[screech339]

I do not have very good idea how any bill pass as per Canadian law

But my thinking was, if PM wants to pass any bill He ( Justin T ) can do by his own power. ( in my country happen like this because PM have special power )

Also if any senate member wants not to pass this bill then why Justin T replace her to new person so that this bill can pass easily

I just write what ever I understand.

If i am wrong please correct me.

PM does not have the "executive order" to pass or sign bills without Commons/senate approval. Like a POTUS can.

PM still need approval of Commons and Senate to pass all bills.

 

[Natan]

PM does not have the "executive order" to pass or sign bills without Commons/senate approval. Like a POTUS can.

PM still need approval of Commons and Senate to pass all bills.

The contents of C-6 could not be passed by a Presidential Executive Order in the USA. The president does not have that kind of power. The most a POTUS could do is "direct" the Justice Department and/or DHS to prioritize certain actions over others. Justice and DHS do not have to implement the President's "direction", they can, in fact, do the exact opposite with near impunity. The executive power of POTUS is circumscribed by competing competencies among government branches and agencies, that prevent the enforcement of orders that other branches/agencies deem unconstitutional or ill advised.

One will find this is true of all liberal democracies: the executive is constrained, not so much by law, but by the lack of ability to fund, enforce and implement policies that competing competencies find ill advised, unconstitutional or unlawful. Liberal democracies are slow, ponderous, and divided -- generally a mirror image of the people they purport to govern.

 

[asifmehmood]

Bill skipped again today

 

[Richard11]

lets guys just focus on bill c-6 contact your local MPs and senators they know better answer for you then our comments here so please keep sending them emails ,,,thanks

 

[wamapr]

Yes. Remember that when C-24 passed, it took CIC almost a year to implement it. So the rules from C-24 came into effect only about a year or so after it passed. The same will apply to C-6. Maybe IRCC will implement it much faster than C-24. But even if they move quickly, it will be a few months at least.

No one can answer that. Maybe it will create a backlog and slow things down. Or maybe because the standards are more relaxed that it makes processing a little easier? Who knows.

Thank you so much, your answers are very clear, through and insightful. Looks like the best course for us would be to just pass one more year as PR before we could apply for the Citizenship!

 

[mats]

lets guys just focus on bill c-6 contact your local MPs and senators they know better answer for you then our comments here so please keep sending them emails ,,,thanks

can you let us know how we can do that? - Thanks

 

[sab_217]

At least each of us can call our local MP

FIND YOUR MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT USING YOUR POSTAL CODE

http://www.lop.parl.gc.ca/ParlInfo/compilations/houseofcommons/memberbypostalcode.aspx?Menu=HOC

Schedule for CIMM meeting :
http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/XRender/en/View/Month/20161201/-1

 

[deerestlovelybear]

Guys, this bill is doing no good, dont waste time and hope on it, the 3/5 will not be in effect for a long long time even if it is passed now, so do not bank any hope on it. Let them kill the bill.

 

[punk]

At least each of us can call our local MP

FIND YOUR MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT USING YOUR POSTAL CODE

http://www.lop.parl.gc.ca/ParlInfo/compilations/houseofcommons/memberbypostalcode.aspx?Menu=HOC

Schedule for CIMM meeting :
http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/XRender/en/View/Month/20161201/-1

MPs wont have any impact but senator would have, so you have to call your Senators.

On sidenote, I discussed this with Minister John last night and he said he is working with senators to get this passed. He hope that Senate will discuss it before Christmas however the chances are low. He didn't seem so hopeful about the timelines.

 

[admontreal]

MPs wont have any impact but senator would have, so you have to call your Senators.

On sidenote, I discussed this with Minister John last night and he said he is working with senators to get this passed. He hope that Senate will discuss it before Christmas however the chances are low. He didn't seem so hopeful about the timelines.

You seem to have great connections with high government officials. If I may ask, do you work in politics ?

 

[punk]

You seem to have great connections with high government officials. If I may ask, do you work in politics ?

I ran election campaign for one of the ministers and still involved with few others. It is not related to my work but purely for interest

 

[subha_1962]

MPs wont have any impact but senator would have, so you have to call your Senators.

On sidenote, I discussed this with Minister John last night and he said he is working with senators to get this passed. He hope that Senate will discuss it before Christmas however the chances are low. He didn't seem so hopeful about the timelines.

If not before Christmas, what sort of timelines did he have in mind did he know or have an idea. Would it be done at lease by Canada day of 2017?

 

[admontreal]

I ran election campaign for one of the ministers and still involved with few others. It is not related to my work but purely for interest

Impressive and interesting. Thank you for all the insights you bring
Do you foresee any chance that the bill would be abandonned ?

 

[wamapr]

Yes. Remember that when C-24 passed, it took CIC almost a year to implement it. So the rules from C-24 came into effect only about a year or so after it passed. The same will apply to C-6. Maybe IRCC will implement it much faster than C-24. But even if they move quickly, it will be a few months at least.

No one can answer that. Maybe it will create a backlog and slow things down. Or maybe because the standards are more relaxed that it makes processing a little easier? Who knows.

Also I wanted to ask one more question as following:

Since the Bill C-6 is not a law yet and since no one can predict whether and when it will be a law I will rather depend on qualifying for the current 4 of 6 years' rule. In which case and based on my current physical presence calculation and also considering my planned out of country travel in the next year, I will complete 1460 days some time during January 2018.

Now the current rule also says that one need to be physically present in Canada 183 days in each of four calendar years that are fully or partially in the six years immediately before the date of the application.

So my question is if ANY four calendar years (with min. 183 days each) that are fully or partially in the six years immediately before the date of my application are okay or they have to be immediate successive calendar years to my date of application for the Citizenship?

In my case the tentative scenario looks as following:

CY - Days

2012 - 18
2013 - 78
2014 - 365
2015 - 316
2016 - 356
2017 - 305
2018 - 22
Total 1460 Days
Date of eligibility - 22-Jan-18

Is my calculation of the above date of eligibility accurate or I will need to complete 183 days also in the calendar year 2018 before I can apply for the Citizenship?

Thank you kindly for your insight..

 

[itsmyid]

Also I wanted to ask one more question as following:

Since the Bill C-6 is not a law yet and since no one can predict whether and when it will be a law I will rather depend on qualifying for the current 4 of 6 years' rule. In which case and based on my current physical presence calculation and also considering my planned out of country travel in the next year, I will complete 1460 days some time during January 2018.

Now the current rule also says that one need to be physically present in Canada 183 days in each of four calendar years that are fully or partially in the six years immediately before the date of the application.

So my question is if ANY four calendar years (with min. 183 days each) that are fully or partially in the six years immediately before the date of my application are okay or they have to be immediate successive calendar years to my date of application for the Citizenship?

In my case the tentative scenario looks as following:

CY - Days

2012 - 18
2013 - 78
2014 - 365
2015 - 316
2016 - 356
2017 - 305
2018 - 22
Total 1460 Days
Date of eligibility - 22-Jan-18

Is my calculation of the above date of eligibility accurate or I will need to complete 183 days also in the calendar year 2018 before I can apply for the Citizenship?

Thank you kindly for your insight..

just use the on-line calculator from CIC - that's the official explanation