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BREAKING NEWS Bill C-6 finally passed in HoC, Now reading in Senate

deerestlovelybear

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It is not logical at all to say that delay the implementing of 3/5 will avoid backlog, delaying will cause even more built up when the rule is implemented, it simply push the bump of application to a later time abeit at a more drastic number than if the 3/5 rule is implemented immediately. Process optimization can happens at the same time applicants are received under 3/5 rule and there is no difference between delaying the new rule or not
 

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deerestlovelybear said:
It is not logical at all to say that delay the implementing of 3/5 will avoid backlog, delaying will cause even more built up when the rule is implemented, it simply push the bump of application to a later time abeit at a more drastic number than if the 3/5 rule is implemented immediately. Process optimization can happens at the same time applicants are received under 3/5 rule and there is no difference between delaying the new rule or not
It's not logical to implement it immediately either. They need to update the citizenship application and documentation to reflect the new requirements. They will need to come up with a way to deal with the flood of applications that is expected to flow once the new rule is implemented. The question left would be, how long will the notice period be before the new rule kicks in.
 

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Actually the longer the government delays to implement C-6, the more victims (i.e. the applicants who would have qualified under old rules since effective date of C-24) build up upon the effective date of C-6.

If I were the policy maker, since the purpose of C-6 was to repeal the unfair part of C-24, it should implement ASAP to show the good faith to the victims of C-24. If there is backlog building up, the priority should to given to the victims of C-24 first.

This is how other civilized countries (such as UK, Australia, NZ) did in the past. The way how C-24 implemented retroactively and how it's repealed by C-6 shows how backward and lack of human rights this country is.

For example, when Australia and NZ changed their citizenship laws, not only the PRs who landed before the new laws were not impacted, there was even some grace period for the new PRs who landed after new laws. When Australia changed from 2 years to 4 years residency, the new law implemented after 3 years of passing in Parliament. When NZ changed from 3 years to 5 years residency, the new law implemented after 5 years of passing in Parliament.

When UK Labour government passed the new citizenship law before 2010 general election in 2009, the planed implementation was 2011. But after the election in 2010, Conservative government scrapped the law without going through the whole legislation process again in Parliament. Same as the ID card programe introduced by Labour government, Conservative government scrapped the law within one week of winning the election.

UK once changed immigration rules for residency requirements for PR and applied retroactively. It was challenged at court and the government lost the case as it violated the human rights of immigrants. After the court order, the government implemented it within days and fast tracked victims' applications.
 

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canadasucks said:
UK once changed immigration rules for residency requirements for PR and applied retroactively. It was challenged at court and the government lost the case as it violated the human rights of immigrants. After the court order, the government implemented it within days and fast tracked victims' applications.
Do you have the specific details about that piece?
 

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Latest UPDATE!

Senate started summer holiday early and will come back on September 27!
 

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So does it mean it will be approved or not
It will eventually get approved only it will have to wait until September before that will happen.
 

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Re: BREAKING NEWS Reading of Bill C-6 suspended in Senate until end of September

Since C-6 is not implemented within one year of C-24. C-6 is worthless for the victims of C-24. Now they also become the double victims of C-6 as they will also suffer from the backlog caused by C-6. These people are the only people in Canada history who suffer both 4/6 rule and backlog delay. So tragically these people can be caught by both an unfair law and the new law to repeal the unfair law. I'v never seen anything like this in any countries' legal systems. Shame on this country!
 

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It will eventually get approved only it will have to wait until September before that will happen.
If it is approved by next yet summer
I am happy

Bcz I will qualify for citizenship by 2017 June
 

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Re: BREAKING NEWS Reading of Bill C-6 suspended in Senate until end of September

canadasucks said:
Since C-6 is not implemented within one year of C-24. C-6 is worthless for the victims of C-24. Now they also become the double victims of C-6 as they will also suffer from the backlog caused by C-6. These people are the only people in Canada history who suffer both 4/6 rule and backlog delay. So tragically these people can be caught by both an unfair law and the new law to repeal the unfair law. I'v never seen anything like this in any countries' legal systems. Shame on this country!
Exactly, we are the victims of an unfair law and the backlog of a correction law! When c24 was introduced it is applied on those who came to canada years before the law came into effect, there is no consideration for us at all, now when we are again subjected to backlog delay by the delay of c6
 

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canadasucks said:
Actually the longer the government delays to implement C-6, the more victims (i.e. the applicants who would have qualified under old rules since effective date of C-24) build up upon the effective date of C-6.

If I were the policy maker, since the purpose of C-6 was to repeal the unfair part of C-24, it should implement ASAP to show the good faith to the victims of C-24. If there is backlog building up, the priority should to given to the victims of C-24 first.

This is how other civilized countries (such as UK, Australia, NZ) did in the past. The way how C-24 implemented retroactively and how it's repealed by C-6 shows how backward and lack of human rights this country is.

For example, when Australia and NZ changed their citizenship laws, not only the PRs who landed before the new laws were not impacted, there was even some grace period for the new PRs who landed after new laws. When Australia changed from 2 years to 4 years residency, the new law implemented after 3 years of passing in Parliament. When NZ changed from 3 years to 5 years residency, the new law implemented after 5 years of passing in Parliament.

When UK Labour government passed the new citizenship law before 2010 general election in 2009, the planed implementation was 2011. But after the election in 2010, Conservative government scrapped the law without going through the whole legislation process again in Parliament. Same as the ID card programe introduced by Labour government, Conservative government scrapped the law within one week of winning the election.

UK once changed immigration rules for residency requirements for PR and applied retroactively. It was challenged at court and the government lost the case as it violated the human rights of immigrants. After the court order, the government implemented it within days and fast tracked victims' applications.
Lack of intelligence too, specially in the Department of Immigration :)
 

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Hi. A question regarding residency requirements for citizenship:

Does 3 out of 5 years mean 3 full years (365x3 days) of physical presence or 3 years being normally resident (with a specified number of days per year)?
 

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johnjkjk said:
Hi. A question regarding residency requirements for citizenship:

Does 3 out of 5 years mean 3 full years (365x3 days) of physical presence or 3 years being normally resident (with a specified number of days per year)?
1095 days of physical presence over 5 year period.