Bill C-6: Senate stage

[_MK_]

Just to make my questing easy to understand ,lets put it this way. If I landed on 15th of July 2015 then the 1 year count will be from 15th July 2015 to 14th July 2016 OR total number of days you spend in Canada from 1st January 2015 till 31st Dec 2015 ?

It will be 1095 days from the day you land after the bill passes.
If you were hear before landing date as temporary resident, those count at 50% rate.

 

[Varangian]

This is not true. Hoc agenda is set daily by the government except on opposition day which the agenda is set by the opposition parties. For Senate the agenda includes all possible bills and discussions. Hoc usually has a more focused approach than Senate.

Well... once again, if you check this link, it seems to me only a few bills are being discussed today. Agree, that it might not be 100% correct as they constantly chance their plans. It's more like a general idea of that they are working on.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/Agenda.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1

 

[spyfy]

So this is what is says re C4, dated yesterday, I didn't follow C4 closely so I am assuming that it was only one amendment

May 3, 2017 — The Leader of the Government in the House of Commons — That a Message be sent to the Senate to acquaint Their Honours that this House disagrees with the amendment made by the Senate to Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Canada Labour Code, the Parliamentary Employment and Staff Relations Act, the Public Service Labour Relations Act and the Income Tax Act.


So as it says that there has to be a 24 hour notice, ideally we should expect HOC to respond re C6 this evening - but nothing has been ideal regarding the bill so wait game

Again, this has not been voted on by the HoC yet. The Leader of the Government merely SUGGESTED that the HoC vote to send a message to the Senate that... Bill C-4 has not at all been discussed in the HoC. This line that everyone is so obsessively quoting only means that this is the suggested vote.

Also where do you get those 24 hours from? It took the HoC three sitting days for C-4 just to put that motion on the agenda. And it's not even been voted on yet.

 

[spyfy]

Well... once again, if you check this link, it seems to me only a few bills are being discussed today. Agree, that it might not be 100% correct as they constantly chance their plans. It's more like a general idea of that they are working on.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/Agenda.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1

This is, as others already pointed out, always the case. The HoC concentrates on one single bill, then finishes it up, then discusses the next bill. You cannot compare Senate procedure and HoC procedure. They are very different.

Note that the Senate always puts ALL bills that are pending on its agenda every single day. The HoC only puts those bills on the agenda that it actually intends to discuss.

 

[WeazyF]

My question is what section within the order paper is the Senate information sent to the Hoc dealt with. So I know when to watch

 

[Varangian]

Again, this has not been voted on by the HoC yet. The Leader of the Government merely SUGGESTED that the HoC vote to send a message to the Senate that... Bill C-4 has not at all been discussed in the HoC. This line that everyone is so obsessively quoting only means that this is the suggested vote.

Also where do you get those 24 hours from? It took the HoC three sitting days for C-4 just to put that motion on the agenda. And it's not even been voted on yet.

Agree. We need to give it a bit of time. Most likely will see some movements next week.

 

[spyfy]

My question is what section within the order paper is the Senate information sent to the Hoc dealt with. So I know when to watch

Look at this document:
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Pub=projected&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=42&Ses=1

If you see bill C-6 there, watch. If you don't, then don't.

 

[imm_leb_01]

When will the HoC meet ?

 

[spyfy]

When will the HoC meet ?

They meet every single day. As to when they will discuss C-6, read the posts above.

 

[Redfield]

The way it works is that the Government reviews the amendments and puts forward a motion that has to be voted by HoC before being sent back by the Senate. The motion can be, we agree with amendment 1 2 and 3 but not 4 or it can be we disagree with all amendments. Depending on what motion is voted, a message is sent back to Senate. In the case of C-4, it appears that the motion they want to present disagrees with the only amendment proposed by the Senate, when that motion is voted by the majority of HoC then it will go back to Senate.

Regarding that amendment, it might be a good reflection of what will happen to C-6 once (if) it goes back to Senate since the Senate was very protective of their amendment. But I do not think that anyone besides the Conservatives want to pick a fight in the Senate against the Government, so they will probably back off like they did with C-14

 

[subha_1962]

Again, this has not been voted on by the HoC yet. The Leader of the Government merely SUGGESTED that the HoC vote to send a message to the Senate that... Bill C-4 has not at all been discussed in the HoC. This line that everyone is so obsessively quoting only means that this is the suggested vote.

Also where do you get those 24 hours from? It took the HoC three sitting days for C-4 just to put that motion on the agenda. And it's not even been voted on yet.

Ok, got it that it is and agenda item and a suggestion by Leader of Govt that HOC votes on this. The 24 hours is from this.

Legislative Process
House Consideration of Senate Amendments to Bills

The Senate’s consideration of a bill sent to it by the House may result in further amendments to the bill. When this happens, the Senate amendments are submitted to the House of Commons for consideration. The House must then decide whether to accept or reject the amendments proposed by the Senate.
Notice for Amendments

A motion for the consideration of Senate amendments requires 24 hours’ written notice pursuant to Standing Order 77(1). The motion may propose that the House concur in, further amend or reject the amendments made by the Senate. It may at the same time reject certain amendments made by the Senate and concur in or amend others. It must relate exclusively to the Senate amendments, and not to other provisions of the bill that are not contemplated by the amendments.

The motion appears on the Notice Paper under the heading “Motions Respecting Senate Amendments to Bills”. It is considered during Government Orders, if the bill in question is a government bill, or during Private Members’ Business, if the bill is a private Member’s bill.

May be I have wrongly interpreted

 

[quasar81]

That is why we all need to email/phone Minister Hussein and PM Trudeau to accept the senate amendments as it is and implement C6 ASAP....

Guys, do it now. If it hangs in there once, it will take months...

I just called Hon Minister Hussein's office. They said Minister is aware of importance of bill and will finalize the HoC Strategy soon.

GUYS, PLEASE CALL NOW !!! Ask fast implementation....tell them already delayed too much.

 

[jsm0085]

Note the wording "(subject to change without notice)"

 

[captain74]

Where is our man with highly placed friends at the IRCC?

Coffee1981 - any updates from your friends?

 

[JLAKE]

Where is our man with highly placed friends at the IRCC?

Coffee1981 - any updates from your friends?