I have given an elaborate argument above, many other forum members have chimed in supporting my position. So if you want to uphold your position and can't (or, my guess is, don't want to) understand what the word "resident" means, I have no problem with that. Why am I even trying to convince you? I think I am that guy on the computer right now:screech339 said:
Ohh.. so that's why you are pissed about pre-pr credit for students/workers... Your wife does not get any credit while student/workers can get such credit, so you believe pre-pr credit must be nuked. You should have started with it, and we would not have such a long 'debate'screech339 said:
Yup, I mixed something up while being hasty in composing the post. But the core of my argument stands, namely that the statuses aren't the same regarding the privileges you get and the statements you have to make during application.torontosm said:
Students can go to school and get health coverage because that is that they applied for. Workers can work and get OHIP because that is what they applied for. In other words, it's all part of the package of a temporary study or work visa. It doesn't entitled them to credit it towards citizenship just because they paid taxes or have health coverage. Visitor don't get health coverage because it is not part of the package. Visitors pay taxes called GST or HST too, you know. Does this entitled them to citizenship credit? Again sense of entitlement is showing among students/workers and they feel they should be treated differently from visitors. Does this means you are all okay with "2 tier" citizenship? If visitors are not "temporary residents" like "workers or students" as that is an example of "2 tier" temporary residents people have been arguing against? Are they all guaranteed to re-enter Canada after they leave? It all doesn't change the basic fact that they are all "temporary residents" of Canada.burnin said:
The only thing that entitles people to resident credit or not is a law. Parliament intends to change that law. If they change that law, some particular people are entitled to residence credit and some aren't. That's what laws do, they define who is entitled to what.screech339 said:
You do realized that pre-pr credit was given to visitors, students and workers under 3/4 rule. I am all for fairness, so if temporary resident students and workers can claim credit for citizenship, you can bet that some spouse/common law under visitor status will sue the government for equal treatment for citizenship credit under argument that they have the same "temporary residents" status of Canada as workers and students. Guess what, they would have a valid claim to it.vasyok said:Ohh.. so that's why you are pissed about pre-pr credit for students/workers... Your wife does not get any credit while student/workers can get such credit, so you believe pre-pr credit must be nuked. You should have started with it, and we would not have such a long 'debate'
But the requirements for coming as a student/worker are a lot stricter than a regular visitor BECAUSE there is the expectation that these people are more likely to end up as PR/Canadians because they typically spend a lot more time in Canada and assimilate. Workers will also have proven that they can contribute positively to the workforce. Students/Workers are more valuable to the Canadian government because they are basically able to trial them in Canada to make sure they are a good fit.screech339 said:
