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Bill C-6: Senate stage

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Random observation: It is shocking how unprofessional the senators are. I feel like I know the bill ten times better than them and I read it like twice maybe. Plus procedurally every city council meeting seems more professional.
 

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HSD said:
So where will the bill go from here, to the senate for third reading and amendments or to the HOC for amendments and then back to the senate?
Third reading in the Senate, then back to the HoC. If the HoC accepts these amendments, the bill goes right to the Governor-General for royal assent. Only if the HoC doesn't agree with the amendments, the ping-pong starts (back to the Senate, back to the HoC, ...)
 

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spyfy said:
Third reading in the Senate, then back to the HoC. If the HoC accepts these amendments, the bill goes right to the Governor-General for royal assent. Only if the HoC doesn't agree with the amendments, the ping-pong starts (back to the Senate, back to the HoC, ...)
what are the amendments here after passing clause by caluse?
 

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spyfy said:
Third reading in the Senate, then back to the HoC. If the HoC accepts these amendments, the bill goes right to the Governor-General for royal assent. Only if the HoC doesn't agree with the amendments, the ping-pong starts (back to the Senate, back to the HoC, ...)
Hopefully, the third reading in the Senate won't take as long as the second one :) I almost lost hope that time.
 

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artin2015 said:
there is not any amendments
that what I understand of passing clause by clause!

Some guys here said the Chair said that! I confused
 

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spyfy said:
Third reading in the Senate, then back to the HoC. If the HoC accepts these amendments, the bill goes right to the Governor-General for royal assent. Only if the HoC doesn't agree with the amendments, the ping-pong starts (back to the Senate, back to the HoC, ...)
Good to know.I read somewhere that third reading is just a voting stage and shouldn't take more than a couple of days.So its seems very realistic atm that the bill gets royal assent in 2 months from now or even less ( if hoc accepts the recommendations and passes it on priority basis as it is delayed a lot)
 

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smilermail said:
what are the amendments here after passing clause by caluse?
They haven't done any amendments in committee. The law passed the committee with no changes.

But one of the senators announced that there will be an amendment once the bill ist back in the Senate at third reading.
 

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smilermail said:
that what I understand of passing clause by clause!

Some guys here said the Chair said that! I confused
maybe they don't understanding the law but when clause by clause passed it s mean no amendments and passed without amendments so now they discuss about observation. be aware after committee third reading will pass right away without any problem
 

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smilermail said:
that what I understand of passing clause by clause!

Some guys here said the Chair said that! I confused
It wasn't the chair. One of the senators signalled there will be an amendment in the senate.

To clarify: Yes, the committee didn't amend the bill. But the senate will most likely do that. The fact that the committee didn't amend the bill doesn't mean that the senate won't.
 

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They haven't done any amendments in committee. The law passed the committee with no changes.

But one of the senators announced that there will be an amendment once the bill ist back in the Senate at third reading.
Which Senator?Because if he is from liberal side then the bill will have a smooth ride in Hoc otherwise if its a CON then the liberals may not agree with his recommendations and as you said it can start a ping pong like situation.
 

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spyfy said:
They haven't done any amendments in committee. The law passed the committee with no changes.

But one of the senators announced that there will be an amendment once the bill ist back in the Senate at third reading.
since its passed in committee as it is, then why should be amended during 3rd reading, i believe you misunderstood what happened.

If the cons suggest amendment then there will be a vote maybe and 3rd reading will pass.

I believe there will be 3rd reading then to governor
 

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Which Senator?Because if he is from liberal side then the bill will have a smooth ride in Hoc otherwise if its a CON then the liberals may not agree with his recommendations and as you said it can start a ping pong like situation.
I'm not sure who it was, but it was someone who said something to the effect of "I welcome C-6 as a bill, it's just the appeals thing we should change"

Also note that yesterday the Minister said that he welcomes such an amendment. And the HoC listens to the government, so I don't think they will oppose that change.
 

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spyfy said:
They haven't done any amendments in committee. The law passed the committee with no changes.

But one of the senators announced that there will be an amendment once the bill ist back in the Senate at third reading.
the major responsibility of the committee is to prepare the amendment if any, however in the case of C-6 it passed with clause by clause. so who will be in charge of preparing this amendment and for which clause?