Bill C-6: Senate stage

[spiritsoul]

If we have the Libs and Non-Aff on the same side it's still good no ? I know it's not guaranteed but I hope JT wasn't dumb enough to select Senators that may give a hard time to his bills.

You're right but the fact is there is some Non-affiliated senators were appointed by Harper.

 

[admontreal]

You're right but the fact is there is some Non-affiliated senators were appointed by Harper.

True. What I hope is that when they left Harper's caucus they also left the mentality that goes with it and would be inclined to compromise and follow the other Non-Affiliated Senators lead.
Honestly, Partisanship is an inherent part of Human nature. Most of the Senators don't give a leg about C-6's meaning and results, they just want to be on the winning side. By default, it's the government, and if they are not bound to Tories by any formal partisanship line they may follow the growing crowd of C-6 ays...

 

[noba el king]

Any info from the session today?

 

[Sumonaney]

You're right but the fact is there is some Non-affiliated senators were appointed by Harper.

then why some Non-affiliated senators appoint by JUSTIN T.
Then this bill will approve so quick

 

[marcher]

True. What I hope is that when they left Harper's caucus they also left the mentality that goes with it and would be inclined to compromise and follow the other Non-Affiliated Senators lead.
Honestly, Partisanship is an inherent part of Human nature. Most of the Senators don't give a leg about C-6's meaning and results, they just want to be on the winning side. By default, it's the government, and if they are not bound to Tories by any formal partisanship line they may follow the growing crowd of C-6 ays...

Keep in mind that each Senator is free to vote as he or she pleases. It is true that those appointed by Harper might vote against C-6, but that would be because they believe C-24 is right. At this stage, they do not have to care about what Harper says because he is gone from the political scene. The other thing we need to keep in mind is that there may be several other Senators (Liberal and independent) who might disagree with C-6. In all honesty, it depends on how they view it. If they focus on the fact C-6 will allow a terrorist to keep his citizenship, then they might disagree with it. But if they are more open minded and see how this rule may go beyond what it says, then they might think otherwise. All of us on this forum are super biased because we are directly affected by C-24, hence we want C-6 implemented ASAP. The Senators are not necessarily affected by it, so they are not biased. Now their opinions will be subjective basic on the logic they adopt. In all fairness, Senator Frum is not some evil witch who hates immigrants and wants to make life difficult for them. She believes C-24 solves the issue in hand, and defended it accordingly.

 

[marcher]

Senator Lang speaking now about C-6

 

[hmirzaei]

They are discussing Bill C-6 now. Senator Lang is speaking!

 

[asifmehmood]

started discussing Bill C-6!

 

[marcher]

addressing language requirements clause ... recycled argument.

 

[monalisa]

addressing language requirements clause ... recycled argument.

actually he is right :-X c6 has some issues, language and terrorism let them transfer it to committee and amend it

 

[marcher]

now addressing the terrorist citizenship revocation clause .. same old argument again...

 

[marcher]

actually he is right :-X c6 has some issues, language and terrorism let them transfer it to committee and amend it

of course. it is impossible to pass C-6 as it is. and if liberals are waiting for cons to step up and amend it, then they are dreaming.

 

[monalisa]

now addressing the terrorist citizenship revocation clause .. same old argument again...

Dear they are absolutely right, let them introduce new bill for 3/5 and days before pr

 

[admontreal]

actually he is right :-X c6 has some issues, language and terrorism let them transfer it to committee and amend it

I apologize, but he is not.
This bill will not be amended.
The Finance committee conservatives tried to amend the Tax cuts but the amendments were deemed irrelevant coming from non-elected senators and cancelled. No amendmemt not expected by the government will be accepted.

 

[marcher]

I apologize, but he is not.
This bill will not be amended.
The Finance committee conservatives tried to amend the Tax cuts but the amendments were deemed irrelevant coming from non-elected senators and cancelled. No amendmemt not expected by the government will be accepted.

so it will have to be cancelled and redrafted under a new bill.