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I am not sure if anyone shared this link before, but I will do so just in case it was not:

http://thelinkpaper.ca/?p=60102

It is an article dated December 10th,2016 titled NDP MP Jenny Kwan To Table Bill To Close Citizenship Law Gaps Creating “Lost Canadians”

The full text is as follows:

For decades, some Canadians have been alarmed to find themselves to be without status in Canada, and in some cases rendered stateless due to a number of arcane laws. In a press conference with victims of these arcane laws, NDP critic for Immigration, Citizenship, and Refugees, Jenny Kwan stated,
“It is absurd that Canada continues to have gaps in our citizenship laws that lead to groups of ‘Lost Canadians’ suddenly finding themselves without status in Canada. What’s more, it’s 2016, why is Canada persisting with a multi-year court case on the strength of a law that the Supreme Court of Canada has already ruled to unconstitutional?”
After a series of consultations with stakeholder groups and immigration law experts, MP Kwan will be tabling a Private Member’s Bill to address gaps and outdated provisions with the Citizenship Act that resulted in people who should be Canadian citizens losing or never receiving status in Canada. In some cases, impacted individuals find themselves stateless all of a sudden.

“Kyle’s story is a reflection of the saga that continues because of a discriminatory policy based on gender. Even though the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that there should be no differential treatment between children born to Canadian fathers or mothers, the current Liberal Government is still fighting a multi-year legal battle against Mr. Lopez’s right to assert his Canadian citizenship”, said Don Chapman, long time Lost Canadian advocate.

“The Prime Minister said he is a feminist. I hope he recognizes that had gender discrimination not existed in the Immigration Act, Kyle Lopez’s father would have been considered a Canadian at birth and he would have been able pass his citizenship on to Kyle. Kyle would not still be in court today fighting for his rights”, said Kwan.

In the case of Byrdie Funk, a woman who was born abroad to a Canadian parent and has resided in Canada nearly all her life recently found out that she is no longer a Canadian because she turned 28.

Funk said: “Canada cannot claim to stand for justice and equality and at the same time ignore the plight of the Lost Canadians. We are your people and we are waiting for this wrong to be made right.”

When asked about “Lost Canadians” while in opposition, now Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said at an event in British Columbia that, “Minister Kenney needs to understand that the principles of Canadian citizenship need to be administered with compassion and openness, and he’s simply not addressing these Canadian issues.” Similarly, Minister McCallum stated, “It is a question of principle…We do not need an additional set of rules that would create two classes of citizen.”

Unfortunately, those principles didn’t apply when MP Kwan attempted to address some of these legislative deficiencies before committee when Bill C-6 was debated. Most of Kwan’s amendments failed. Kwan has taken her amendments and crafted them into a Private Members Bill to correct these injustices. The Vancouver East MP said, “This is not a partisan issue. This is a justice and fairness issue. It is my hope that government will take my Private Member’s Bill as a government Bill and correct these holes in our citizenship laws”
 

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spiritsoul said:
These are the potential names for the Social Affairs, Science and Technology committee:

Frum, Linda C
Neufeld, Richard C
Ogilvie, Kelvin Kenneth C
Raine, Nancy Greene C
Seidman, Judith G. C
Stewart Olsen, Carolyn C
Day, Joseph A. Lib.
Eggleton, Art Lib.
Merchant, Pana Lib.
Cormier, René Non-affiliated
Dean, Tony Non-affiliated
Demers, Jacques Non-affiliated
Mégie, Marie-Françoise Non-affiliated
Meredith, Don Non-affiliated
Petitclerc, Chantal Non-affiliated

The bolded names are seemingly hapless including (possibly) the green colored one although appointed recently by JT.

Again, Omidvar is not in the committee.
Is this based on their declarations ? Or is it an assumption ?
 

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admontreal said:
Is this based on their declarations ? Or is it an assumption ?
This is what they reported yesterday, they still to adopt the report in due course.
 

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marcher said:
I am not sure if anyone shared this link before, but I will do so just in case it was not:

http://thelinkpaper.ca/?p=60102

It is an article dated December 10th,2016 titled NDP MP Jenny Kwan To Table Bill To Close Citizenship Law Gaps Creating “Lost Canadians”

The full text is as follows:

For decades, some Canadians have been alarmed to find themselves to be without status in Canada, and in some cases rendered stateless due to a number of arcane laws. In a press conference with victims of these arcane laws, NDP critic for Immigration, Citizenship, and Refugees, Jenny Kwan stated,
“It is absurd that Canada continues to have gaps in our citizenship laws that lead to groups of ‘Lost Canadians’ suddenly finding themselves without status in Canada. What’s more, it’s 2016, why is Canada persisting with a multi-year court case on the strength of a law that the Supreme Court of Canada has already ruled to unconstitutional?”
After a series of consultations with stakeholder groups and immigration law experts, MP Kwan will be tabling a Private Member’s Bill to address gaps and outdated provisions with the Citizenship Act that resulted in people who should be Canadian citizens losing or never receiving status in Canada. In some cases, impacted individuals find themselves stateless all of a sudden.

“Kyle’s story is a reflection of the saga that continues because of a discriminatory policy based on gender. Even though the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that there should be no differential treatment between children born to Canadian fathers or mothers, the current Liberal Government is still fighting a multi-year legal battle against Mr. Lopez’s right to assert his Canadian citizenship”, said Don Chapman, long time Lost Canadian advocate.

“The Prime Minister said he is a feminist. I hope he recognizes that had gender discrimination not existed in the Immigration Act, Kyle Lopez’s father would have been considered a Canadian at birth and he would have been able pass his citizenship on to Kyle. Kyle would not still be in court today fighting for his rights”, said Kwan.

In the case of Byrdie Funk, a woman who was born abroad to a Canadian parent and has resided in Canada nearly all her life recently found out that she is no longer a Canadian because she turned 28.

Funk said: “Canada cannot claim to stand for justice and equality and at the same time ignore the plight of the Lost Canadians. We are your people and we are waiting for this wrong to be made right.”

When asked about “Lost Canadians” while in opposition, now Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said at an event in British Columbia that, “Minister Kenney needs to understand that the principles of Canadian citizenship need to be administered with compassion and openness, and he’s simply not addressing these Canadian issues.” Similarly, Minister McCallum stated, “It is a question of principle…We do not need an additional set of rules that would create two classes of citizen.”

Unfortunately, those principles didn’t apply when MP Kwan attempted to address some of these legislative deficiencies before committee when Bill C-6 was debated. Most of Kwan’s amendments failed. Kwan has taken her amendments and crafted them into a Private Members Bill to correct these injustices. The Vancouver East MP said, “This is not a partisan issue. This is a justice and fairness issue. It is my hope that government will take my Private Member’s Bill as a government Bill and correct these holes in our citizenship laws”
I hope this Bill will really address all the flaws... Especially the Second generation gap.
 

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spiritsoul said:
These are the potential names for the Social Affairs, Science and Technology committee:

Frum, Linda C
Neufeld, Richard C
Ogilvie, Kelvin Kenneth C
Raine, Nancy Greene C
Seidman, Judith G. C
Stewart Olsen, Carolyn C
Day, Joseph A. Lib.
Eggleton, Art Lib.
Merchant, Pana Lib.
Cormier, René Non-affiliated
Dean, Tony Non-affiliated
Demers, Jacques Non-affiliated
Mégie, Marie-Françoise Non-affiliated
Meredith, Don Non-affiliated
Petitclerc, Chantal Non-affiliated

The bolded names are seemingly hapless including (possibly) the green colored one although appointed recently by JT.

Again, Omidvar is not in the committee.
Unless they decide to refer it to Legal & Constitutional affairs committee where Omidvar is, that committee seems good:

Name Affiliation Possible C-06 vote
Batters, Denise C No
Boisvenu, Pierre-Hugues C !
Dagenais, Jean-Guy C !
McIntyre, Paul E. C No
Runciman, Bob C No
White, Vernon C No
Baker, George Lib. Yes
Jaffer, Mobina S.B. Lib. Yes
Joyal, Serge Lib. Yes
Boniface, Gwen Non-affiliated Yes
Dupuis, Renée Non-affiliated Yes
Omidvar, Ratna Non-affiliated Yes
Pate, Kim Non-affiliated Yes
Pratte, André Non-affiliated Yes
Sinclair, Murray Non-affiliated Yes
 

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spiritsoul said:
Unless they decide to refer it to Legal & Constitutional affairs committee where Omidvar is, that committee seems good:

Name Affiliation Possible C-06 vote
Batters, Denise C No
Boisvenu, Pierre-Hugues C !
Dagenais, Jean-Guy C !
McIntyre, Paul E. C No
Runciman, Bob C No
White, Vernon C No
Baker, George Lib. Yes
Jaffer, Mobina S.B. Lib. Yes
Joyal, Serge Lib. Yes
Boniface, Gwen Non-affiliated Yes
Dupuis, Renée Non-affiliated Yes
Omidvar, Ratna Non-affiliated Yes
Pate, Kim Non-affiliated Yes
Pratte, André Non-affiliated Yes
Sinclair, Murray Non-affiliated Yes
It will go to Human Rights Committee as per a response I got from a Senator a month ago.
 

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subha_1962 said:
Thanks,

the HR committee has 5 Cons ad 4 others and M. Omidvar is in it. Not so good
We should have more Non-Affiliated and Liberals than Conservatives. Did you look at the new composition ?
I can't find it.
 

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admontreal said:
I meant regarding the positions for or against C-6
That's my expectation based on their history in regards Conservatives C-24 and recent Liberal bills as well as their speach for C-6 (if any). It's a kind of guess work.
 

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admontreal said:
It will go to Human Rights Committee as per a response I got from a Senator a month ago.
If so, this is the Human rights committee:

Name Affiliation Possible Votes: C-06
Ataullahjan, Salma C No
Andreychuk, Raynell C No
Martin, Yonah C No
Ngo, Thanh Hai C No
Unger, Betty E. C No
Hubley, Elizabeth Lib. Yes
Munson, Jim Lib. Yes
Bernard, Wanda Thomas Non-affiliated Yes
Hartling, Nancy Non-affiliated Yes
McPhedran, Marilou Non-affiliated Yes
Omidvar, Ratna Non-affiliated Yes
Pate, Kim Non-affiliated Yes
 

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subha_1962 said:
Thanks,

the HR committee has 5 Cons ad 4 others and M. Omidvar is in it. Not so good
This is the ones before the latest (potential) change.
 

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admontreal said:
We should have more Non-Affiliated and Liberals than Conservatives. Did you look at the new composition ?
I can't find it.
The new combination is 40% Non-affiliated, 40% Cons, 20% Lib. This was agreed at the Senate a few weeks ago.

To me, this is not fair however, as the Non-affiliated out way the Cons.
 

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The new combination is 40% Non-affiliated, 40% Cons, 20% Lib. This was agreed at the Senate a few weeks ago.

To me, this is not fair however, as the Non-affiliated out way the Cons.
If we have the Libs and Non-Aff on the same side it's still good no ? I know it's not guaranteed but I hope JT wasn't dumb enough to select Senators that may give a hard time to his bills.