Bill C-6: Senate stage

[vsoftco]

You are mixing between two things,
Visitors comes to visit Canada not to reside,however, refugees come to reside and settle in canada. What I am saying is simple, both imgrants and refugees should be treated equally and have the same period of residency in order to apply for citizenship. It is not fair that imgrants granted citizenship in 3 or 4 years while some refugees wait for 6 or 7 years to apply because they have not credited the days pre-Pr. Also refugees should not be considered and treated as second class Permenant resident because simply other PRs afraid of the delay of processing time and want to grant thier citizenship in short time no matter how long the other PRs suffer and wait. When it comes to the comitment and the intention to reside , I am pretty sure that refugees are more committed than the others because most of them fled from thier countries and sell their properties and come to live here for ever, while some imgrants came to get citizenship and leave.

This was an excellent point! IMHO, everyone should be treated absolutely equally when applying for citizenship! In a sense, just before applying for citizenship, any permanent resident in Canada should be treated on exactly the same foot, no matter if (s)he was a refugee/FSW/CEC etc, so it should not matter at all how the PR was obtained. Also, after becoming a citizen, it shouldn't matter at all if the person wants to leave Canada. So what?! Many times expats make their country a favour by leaving, doing something great in another country and be considered a "Canadian that did this and that". Once you obtained a citizenship you should be proud of it, no matter where in the world you live!

About pre-PR credit, things are tricky. Indeed crediting students with as much time as possible should be a desideratum, because most of them are already contributing to Canadian economy. On the other hand, there are also long time work permit holders that should as well be credited (in my case, I was a WP holder for 5 years before becoming a PR). How much each should be credited/who is worth more is a complicated decision, and probably un-satisfactory to 50% of the applicants. So the pre-C24 rule of 1/2 days per 1 full day made sense. You want a bit of commitment from a prospective citizen.

However, to conclude, I think those are actually relatively minor issues in the long term. Again IMHO the most important thing is to have a SOLID citizenship law, which treats naturalized citizens on the same footing as naturally-born citizens. That is, a strip of citizenship SHOULD NOT be allowed unless the case proven in a court of law. No one should be able otherwise to decide they don't like you anymore and you should be a non-Canadian. I'd very much like to wait a bit more and make sure that the amendment will pass (either as an amendment or as a different bill) before being satisfied with a compromise. I know that many of us can hardly wait to be a citizen (myself included), but let's think about it in the long run!

 

[itsmyid]

You are mixing between two things,
Visitors comes to visit Canada not to reside,however, refugees come to reside and settle in canada. What I am saying is simple, both imgrants and refugees should be treated equally and have the same period of residency in order to apply for citizenship. It is not fair that imgrants granted citizenship in 3 or 4 years while some refugees wait for 6 or 7 years to apply because they have not credited the days pre-Pr. Also refugees should not be considered and treated as second class Permenant resident because simply other PRs afraid of the delay of processing time and want to grant thier citizenship in short time no matter how long the other PRs suffer and wait. When it comes to the comitment and the intention to reside , I am pretty sure that refugees are more committed than the others because most of them fled from thier countries and sell their properties and come to live here for ever, while some imgrants came to get citizenship and leave.

You keep saying the same thing but you don't even get your facts straight
- other immigrants don't get any pre-pr credit either, just like refugees, what is the "unfair" treatment are you taking about?
- the longer waiting time for refugees is partially due to the verification system to prevent fraudulent refugee claims , which are pretty common, a lot of people simply overstay their visitor visa and telling lies about being prosecuted or facing danger in their home country in order to gain refugee status, it is unfortunate but the government has to take measures to make sure the system is not exploited. Just like the RQ and non-routine processing are ways to verify people's residential obligation - nobody likes it but it needs to exist in some capacity to prevent fraud

 

[monalisa]

You are mixing between two things,
Visitors comes to visit Canada not to reside,however, refugees come to reside and settle in canada. What I am saying is simple, both imgrants and refugees should be treated equally and have the same period of residency in order to apply for citizenship. It is not fair that imgrants granted citizenship in 3 or 4 years while some refugees wait for 6 or 7 years to apply because they have not credited the days pre-Pr. Also refugees should not be considered and treated as second class Permenant resident because simply other PRs afraid of the delay of processing time and want to grant thier citizenship in short time no matter how long the other PRs suffer and wait. When it comes to the comitment and the intention to reside , I am pretty sure that refugees are more committed than the others because most of them fled from thier countries and sell their properties and come to live here for ever, while some imgrants came to get citizenship and leave.

Stop arguing because immigrants before they arrive to canada they wait 2 to 5 years for immigration visa while refugees they cheat government they arrive as visitors or students then they become refugees (or they arrive as refugees), they wait 2 years usually or more to obtain PR, I see it more than fair.

You can stay in your arab country, I believe its fair for you

 

[Richard11]

I am here to find something about Bill c-6 ,but last few days all about refugee ,who ever start this why you not going to write your views on Refugees and Asylum thread ,little bit use your brain and do not disturb other people

 

[_MK_]

I am here to find something about Bill c-6 ,but last few days all about refugee ,who ever start this why you not going to write your views on Refugees and Asylum thread ,little bit use your brain and do not disturb other people

Check back on March 28th. There wont be any updates before that.
People here are bored.

 

[itsmyid]

Check back on March 28th. There wont be any updates before that.
People here are bored.

I am sure in less than 48 hours someone will post the question ' is there any update on C-6?' again

 

[_MK_]

I am sure in less than 48 hours someone will post the question ' is there any update on C-6?' again

Well not everyone is as obsessed about this bill as the regulars on the thread! I dont think a lot of people know about the government websites for tracking bill progress.

 

[askaan305]

Can we apply for Citizenship if eligible even if PR card is expired or is under renewal process?

 

[Shmak2017]

Yes

Can we apply for Citizenship if eligible even if PR card is expired or is under renewal process?

 

[Saga]

I am sure in less than 48 hours someone will post the question ' is there any update on C-6?' again

Hahahahaha that is so true and funny

 

[h3a3j6]

Hahahahaha that is so true and funny

It may be worthwhile asking marcher who owns this thread to modify its title to reflect the stage and next "action" date. Should eliminate a lot of unused Q&As.

 

[Imadassadi]

I think C-6 affects every imgrant whether he is refugee, permit worker or student . Since there are amendments being discussed now it is good idea to take benefits form this advantage and email our Mps for full Pre-Pr credit or 2 years at least as Australia.

 

[RajGill]

Hi All -

We are waiting for C-6 to become law:
Since I missed following the bill progress and would appreciate some one feedback on 2 things
1. What is amendment in discussion for Pre-PR credit time ? As what i am aware of max. 1 year credit.

2. As i am aware how they count 3 years in past 5 years to be eligible for citizenship application. To count 1 year from Pre-PR stay how back years we could go or it has to be in bracket of past 5 years as i came to Canada as student in 2009.

Hopefully this become law this summer.

 

[marcher]

It may be worthwhile asking marcher who owns this thread to modify its title to reflect the stage and next "action" date. Should eliminate a lot of unused Q&As.

I am not sure if I have access to change the thread title. Any idea how?

 

[h3a3j6]

I am not sure if I have access to change the thread title. Any idea how?

Just built a "test" topic and tried it. Here's what you need to do:

Go back to your first post in THIS thread and MODIFY the topic (You'll see the icon in the top-right section).
That should change the main title! Very easy.

I recall that one of the "spammers" (not to name him/her) used to create the same topic several times and drive everyone on this forum nuts... Then he/she did go and finally modified the topic to become "-" or "." or empty.

He/she left some time ago, I think.