Bill C-24 Second Reading on February 27th:

[OrangeCup]

Where Does it say the Voting on the third reading will be on Monday in the House of Common?

www . parl . gc . ca /HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Pub=projected&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=2

MONDAY, JUNE 16, 2014
Deferred Recorded Divisions
C-24 — The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration — Strengthening Canadian Citizenship Act — Third reading

 

[sicko86]

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Pub=projected&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=2

search for monday. it's after c-36 (which seems like a more important debate in HoC at this point)

I see .. Thank you .. So Third reading will be officially on Monday.

 

[chakrab]

I see .. Thank you .. So Third reading will be officially on Monday.

yeah, it started on thursday and will continue on monday

 

[sicko86]

yeah, it started on thursday and will continue on monday

Btw .. you mentioned you are a Citizen .. What was your timeline and your office? I am applying next month!

 

[sicko86]

Some 'non-important' bills do pass the senate stage within one week time. But those bills do not affect tens of thousands people. (E.g bill C-4)
Personal opinion, the government still has a chance to pass the bill before summer break and await for royal assent. As for when it will come into force, I personally do not think the same day it receives royal assent it will come into force, that'll be crazy. July 1st might be too soon as well.

Bill C-4 Had 10 Pre-Study meeting my friend .. I think thats why

http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=6258538

 

[chakrab]

I read your post, and you said CIC will decide when to implement the bill (the portion of your post that I quoted and boldfaced). Sorry pal, but that's wrong. It's the Governor General in Council that decides when a passed bill takes effect.

It was the Royal Assent that made the bill effective on April 17, 2009, not CIC.

I suggest you take a civics course and get the facts straight on how a bill becomes effective at the federal level because I'd hate to see you fail your citizenship test on this subject.

i dont want to get into personal argument with you. but, according to the act, the law will "come into force on a day to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council"

here's the definition of governer in council - In Canada, the governor in council is the governor general acting on the advice of the federal cabinet.

since the cabinet does include CIC, i don't see how CIC has no influence in determining when the law comes into effect.

 

[chakrab]

Btw .. you mentioned you are a Citizen .. What was your timeline and your office? I am applying next month!

i got my test after 2 months of processing, got oath in 3 months, passport on the 4th and EDL on 5th. my office was windsor.

 

[mirki]

Meanwhile: CBC reports that: "The Canadian government is reforming the immigration system to offer "express entry" to skilled immigrants who want to come here as permanent residents, as a way to fill open jobs where there are no available Canadian workers"

On the one hand, with Bill C-24, they alienate the already available skilled workforce who have strong ties in Canada (most of them lived here for many years in the pre-PR period), on the other hand, they propose to bring skilled workforce who have no ties with Canada. I don't think I can understand this logic.

There is only reasonable explanation: the government have an agenda of discouraging existing PRs from staying in Canada and stripping massive numbers of 'second class' citizens from citizenship as they think those who are outside of Canada are more skilful and they should replace the existing PRs. In the future those who come here with express entry can be sent out as well because they will have second class citizenship too.

 

[sicko86]

i got my test after 2 months of processing, got oath in 3 months, passport on the 4th and EDL on 5th. my office was windsor.

Thats Awesome .. When was your oath? I hope I can get my Citizenship finalized that fast!

 

[chakrab]

Thats Awesome .. When was your oath? I hope I can get my Citizenship finalized that fast!

Processing - Dec 19, 2013
Test - Feb 20, 2014
Oath - Mar 24, 2014

 

[admontreal]

Processing - Dec 19, 2013
Test - Feb 20, 2014
Oath - Mar 24, 2014

Unbelievable ;D And when did you send your application ?

(Currently Looking into jobs in Windsor area )

 

[sicko86]

Meanwhile: CBC reports that: "The Canadian government is reforming the immigration system to offer "express entry" to skilled immigrants who want to come here as permanent residents, as a way to fill open jobs where there are no available Canadian workers"

On the one hand, with Bill C-24, they alienate the already available skilled workforce who have strong ties in Canada (most of them lived here for many years in the pre-PR period), on the other hand, they propose to bring skilled workforce who have no ties with Canada. I don't think I can understand this logic.

There is only reasonable explanation: the government have an agenda of discouraging existing PRs from staying in Canada and stripping massive numbers of 'second class' citizens from citizenship as they think those who are outside of Canada are more skilful and they should replace the existing PRs. In the future those who come here with express entry can be sent out as well because they will have second class citizenship too.

I disagree my friend .. there is no conspiracy behind it and they dont want to strip massive number of Neutralized Citizens there Citizenship .. This country is not "One Man Decision" Country .. it is a democratic country and things doesn't work this way.

I disagree on not calculating the Pre-PR time and thats not coming from my personal case .. but I believe people who lived here as non-PR for couple of years should have advantage over People who just landed here, at least keep things as is (1 year of Pre-PR or 2 years out of the new 4 years total), Australia requires (4 years total including 1 year as PR).

But there is no hidden agenda .. Canada is implementing new immigration program and they are trying to improve the quality of the skilled workers who want to come here .. and that doesnt have to do and is not related to the Citizenship Act Changes.

 

[chakrab]

Sent at the end of October. I was eligible at least 2/3 months earlier. BTW i had 2 pages of travels in the CBSA trip list and never got RQ

 

[sicko86]

Sent at the end of October. I was eligible at least 2/3 months earlier. BTW i had 2 pages of travels in the CBSA trip list and never got RQ

Good to hear that ... Did you send any extra documents with you application? T4, NOA, Rental Documents? Can you give us hints.

 

[shaazdeh]

Processing - Dec 19, 2013
Test - Feb 20, 2014
Oath - Mar 24, 2014

Wow , U r the first one I know who has such a short timeline, the shortest I heard was 6 months before. Good for you