Bill C-24 Second Reading on February 27th:

[Hasher]

Passing it in the house of common doesn't mean the Bill will Pass immediately .. If the Bill Passed the House of Commons on Monday .. the Senate have only 7 business days to pass it before summer break .. which seems to be unlikely (They still have to go 3 readings and commitee reviews before Royal Assent). (Last Day is June 27th) and Monday 23rd and Tuesday 24th there is no Senate Meetings.

This Bill is like any other Bill .. There is no special treatment for this Bill! They are studying it along with many different Bills ... The Canadian Parliament doesn't work in the way you guys think!!

Adding to that .. Lets assume they managed to Pass it in 7 Days .. it wont become a LAW Immediately!!

Oh Really, it means I should gear up myself again with my documents ready, as My date is August 8, 2014. That is with 1095 days on August 7, 2014. Thanks for raising a hope that I would not require another year to wait and sign intend to reside, I have no plans of leaving Canada for long time though.

 

[civic]

So if it does not pass before summerthen what would be anyone's thought when it will be actual law... I know it is all speculation but I am just interested in knowing.

My guess is that it will pass before Canada Day. There is no reason for them to rush it in the past couple weeks if they want to pass it after summer recess. They want to stop ppl from applying as soon as they can so they have spare to deal with massive backlog that they didnt care to work on for several years now.

 

[sicko86]

Oh Really, it means I should gear up myself again with my documents ready, as My date is August 8, 2014. That is with 1095 days on August 7, 2014. Thanks for raising a hope that I would not require another year to wait and sign intend to reside, I have no plans of leaving Canada for long time though.

You definitely can apply .. lets assume worse case scenario they passed it before June 27th (Which is almost impossible) .. The Law won't be effective immediately anyways ... You are Safe trust me!

I even can say that anyone who is eligible in 2014 is VERY LIKELY on the safe side.

 

[sicko86]

My guess is that it will pass before Canada Day. There is no reason for them to rush it in the past couple weeks if they want to pass it after summer recess. They want to stop ppl from applying as soon as they can so they have spare to deal with massive backlog that they didnt care to work on for several years now.

Find for me a Bill that passed the Whole Senate Procedure in 7 Business days so we can believe you!

 

[marcus66502]

Third reading will be finished monday, which is a bit later than we expected. but senate will speed through it pretty quick if the government wants the bill to receive royal assent.
the day has finally come!!!!!!!!!!!

Yea, people on this forum have been saying third reading will be finished for about a week now; and every day of this week that the bill was put on the floor's agenda, no vote happened.

I love predictions in this forum.

 

[informatics]

My guess is that it will pass before Canada Day. There is no reason for them to rush it in the past couple weeks if they want to pass it after summer recess. They want to stop ppl from applying as soon as they can so they have spare to deal with massive backlog that they didnt care to work on for several years now.

Your comment makes sense but at the same time , I highly doubt that the senate could finish all 3 readings and a report stage in just 7 business days . The situation will be clear by the next week .

 

[sicko86]

Your comment makes sense but at the same time , I highly doubt that the senate could finish all 3 readings and a report stage in just 7 business days . The situation will be clear by the next week .

Adding to that .This Bill has Major Changes! It is not a Bill that handle minor situations. It took them Since February in the House of Common to reach this stage!

 

[thepolestar]

It could be just a wish but if the senate really want they could do this:

Delaying bills

The Senate can also delay a bill, or decide not to act on it. Without being formally rejected, a delayed bill dies at the end of the session.

In certain circumstances, Senate action or inaction can persuade a government that it needs to go to the people for a new mandate.

In 1988, Canadians got to vote on the free trade agreement with the United States because the Senate delayed Bill C-130, to implement the agreement. The government called an election on the issue. As soon as it was re-elected, the government submitted a similar bill that Parliament passed expeditiously.

In other cases, the Senate can delay a bill in order to give it more careful scrutiny that it received in the House of Commons and to draw greater public attention to the issue at hand.

Bill C-10 was one such case. A large and complex tax bill, it had had a quick examination in the House before arriving in the Senate in December 2007. There had been no expectation of controversy, but in March 2008 Senators responded to urgent calls from the Canadian film industry. The bill contained a clause that, they felt, would amount to censorship by allowing the Minister of Heritage to arbitrarily deny finished film productions a crucial tax credit. Other groups clamoured to address the committee about this or other concerns. The committee continued its study, and the bill died when Parliament was dissolved in September 2008.

 

[sicko86]

Where Does it say the Voting on the third reading will be on Monday in the House of Common?

 

[chakrab]

Where Does it say the Voting on the third reading will be on Monday in the House of Common?

the best guess is 5 hrs debate will complete by monday and the vote must happen just after that.

 

[marcus66502]

go read my statement. i never said the entire bill will effect immediately. someone asked is there a chance. i replied there's always a chance. stop getting personal with people.

CIC does have a say as to when the bill may be effective. C-37 got the royal assent in April 17, 2008 but the CIC didn't make it effective till April 17, 2009. so you better do your research.

btw, please stop making statements that of little importance. there is no reason to embarrass oneself here. everyone here is speculating. get off your high horse. you are no more important than me here. it's just a freaking forum.

I read your post, and you said CIC will decide when to implement the bill (the portion of your post that I quoted and boldfaced). Sorry pal, but that's wrong. It's the Governor General in Council that decides when a passed bill takes effect.

It was the Royal Assent that made the bill effective on April 17, 2009, not CIC.

I suggest you take a civics course and get the facts straight on how a bill becomes effective at the federal level because I'd hate to see you fail your citizenship test on this subject.

 

[chakrab]

I read your post, and you said CIC will decide when to implement the bill (the portion of your post that I quoted and boldfaced). Sorry pal, but that's wrong. It's the Governor General in Council that decides when a passed bill takes effect.

It was the Royal Assent that made the bill effective on April 17, 2009, not CIC.

I suggest you take a civics course and get the facts straight on how a bill becomes effective at the federal level because I'd hate to see you fail your citizenship test on this subject.

sorry to disappoint but i am a citizen

 

[sicko86]

the best guess is 5 hrs debate will complete by monday and the vote must happen just after that.

I can't even see a link for third reading under:
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=6401990

Is that debate even part of the third reading?

 

[jrjayl]

Find for me a Bill that passed the Whole Senate Procedure in 7 Business days so we can believe you!

Some 'non-important' bills do pass the senate stage within one week time. But those bills do not affect tens of thousands people. (E.g bill C-4)
Personal opinion, the government still has a chance to pass the bill before summer break and await for royal assent. As for when it will come into force, I personally do not think the same day it receives royal assent it will come into force, that'll be crazy. July 1st might be too soon as well.

 

[chakrab]

I can't even see a link for third reading under:
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=6401990

Is that debate even part of the third reading?

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Pub=projected&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=2

search for monday. it's after c-36 (which seems like a more important debate in HoC at this point)