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NewYorker

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rupeshhari said:
Sure you can get a bachelors degree without being good in English. Have you been to China, Japan, Iran, Germany, etc. In all those countries, one doesn't have to know English to get bachelors. I am sure a lot of their graduates do know english but english is not a requirement.

I actually know students who are terrible in their english who will get their degree in US and at one of the top universities in the US too. The folks who do not communicate well in english....some of them are high earners because they are mostly in information analysis jobs, say like IT, etc. In other words, they have other attributes about them that make them successful economically. They are not generally in communication intensive jobs. In fact, Canada is saying its okay to be not so good in English if the applicant has other great attributes and these other attributes are demonstrated by having high points in other categories.

Canada is not differentiating the need for english ability based on the type of job (i.e. communication intensive vs not).

There are also lots of people who are bad in English who are not high earners in the US.

I agree the test is not easy to do great especially given the time limit.

I needed a 7 but got a 6.5. I think its pretty tough to get a 7 or above on the IELTS General.
Are the ILETS test more lenient in other countries in terms of grading?
CV User, check the recent amendment in IELTS scores, the law has changed and the scores are changed to 6.5 for some bands to get highs. Try again and check what are the new requirements.
 

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migwelder said:
Not at all, in Alberta the tax is small, Saskatchewan I think the cost of living is not that high too.

How does this compare to the cost of living in Texas? Texas is very low cost of living.
 

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john5655 said:
that is absolute rubbish

to get the basic two points for French as a second language you need to have studied French for a number of years and take TEF with minimum score of 3.0 to prove it!!! That's the same as getting 4.0 in IELTS

next point, CIC interviews are not to establish language skills, you need the test results from IELTS and/or TEF, but if you are interviewed and your results don't match your claimed ability during interview, you are likely to get a negative substituted evaluation!!!

and as for inciting people to produce fake documents for immigration purposes, shame on you!!!

and if you think it is a great suggestion...??? good luck to you!!!

I can actually get an interview if I am close to 67 points?
 

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NewYorker said:
CV User said:
rupeshhari said:
Sure you can get a bachelors degree without being good in English. Have you been to China, Japan, Iran, Germany, etc. In all those countries, one doesn't have to know English to get bachelors. I am sure a lot of their graduates do know english but english is not a requirement.

I actually know students who are terrible in their english who will get their degree in US and at one of the top universities in the US too. The folks who do not communicate well in english....some of them are high earners because they are mostly in information analysis jobs, say like IT, etc. In other words, they have other attributes about them that make them successful economically. They are not generally in communication intensive jobs. In fact, Canada is saying its okay to be not so good in English if the applicant has other great attributes and these other attributes are demonstrated by having high points in other categories.

Canada is not differentiating the need for english ability based on the type of job (i.e. communication intensive vs not).

There are also lots of people who are bad in English who are not high earners in the US.

I agree the test is not easy to do great especially given the time limit.

I needed a 7 but got a 6.5. I think its pretty tough to get a 7 or above on the IELTS General.
Are the ILETS test more lenient in other countries in terms of grading?
CV User, check the recent amendment in IELTS scores, the law has changed and the scores are changed to 6.5 for some bands to get highs. Try again and check what are the new requirements.

Where does it say that?
 

NewYorker

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Here, go towards the bottom of the page and you'll see;

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/EG72.asp

Listening = 7.5 = 4 Points
Reading = 6.5 = 4 Points
Writing = 6.5 = 4 Points
Speaking = 6.5 = 4 Points

These are new rules and will the above scores will give you highest points - they have only increased for Listening and reduced else by .5 points to get in high band.
 

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NewYorker said:
Here, go towards the bottom of the page and you'll see;

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/EG72.asp

Listening = 7.5 = 4 Points
Reading = 6.5 = 4 Points
Writing = 6.5 = 4 Points
Speaking = 6.5 = 4 Points

These are new rules and will the above scores will give you highest points - they have only increased for Listening and reduced else by .5 points to get in high band.


This means if the IELTS paper says 6.5 Overall. I can consider this as a HIGH on all tests?
 

NewYorker

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NewYorker said:
Here, go towards the bottom of the page and you'll see;

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/EG72.asp

Listening = 7.5 = 4 Points
Reading = 6.5 = 4 Points
Writing = 6.5 = 4 Points
Speaking = 6.5 = 4 Points

These are new rules and will the above scores will give you highest points - they have only increased for Listening and reduced else by .5 points to get in high band.


This means if the IELTS paper says 6.5 Overall. I can consider this as a HIGH on all tests?
No, not overall, you need to get above mentioned point in each category not average.
 

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NewYorker said:
CV User said:
NewYorker said:
Here, go towards the bottom of the page and you'll see;

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/EG72.asp

Listening = 7.5 = 4 Points
Reading = 6.5 = 4 Points
Writing = 6.5 = 4 Points
Speaking = 6.5 = 4 Points

These are new rules and will the above scores will give you highest points - they have only increased for Listening and reduced else by .5 points to get in high band.


This means if the IELTS paper says 6.5 Overall. I can consider this as a HIGH on all tests?
No, not overall, you need to get above mentioned point in each category not average.
Would a lawyer be able to do anything?
 

rupeshhari

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Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
would a lawyer be able to do with what?
 

rupeshhari

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Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
only if there is a reason. Lawyers are not miracle workers. I guess I am not understanding what you want to appeal against?
 

Leon

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You want to appeal against the immigration points system, good luck. Instead of wasting your time and money on that, you should rather try to work on your English or French to get more points.
 

imranali_2004us

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What if a person is claiming for Basic Proficiency in French in the Initial Application and unable to prove that or provide required results in TEF for Basic Proficiency.
1>How that impacts your Application?
2>When CIC,Sydency send you the Approval Letter,do they mention the Breakdown of your points that how many points one is able to get after Assessment?
3>Lastly I have heard that the only thing that happens is that the Claimed Points for Frech Language will be deducted from the Overall Ponts,is that correct?

Senior Member kindly respond...........