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kolhapuri

Hero Member
Oct 2, 2010
615
47
Dublin
NOC Code......
Citizenship
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
13 Dec 16
Advance123 said:
I really wonder why people on this forum are uncharitable towards immigration consultants. My lawyer has been excellent so far which is why I can not join in tarnishing them.
Every knowleadgeable consultant will tell you that you can submit without tyhe PC. Some of these people have over 30 years of doing this successfully while those of us on this forum are only applying for the first time. How we suddenly become experts is bewildering. There are many people from this forum who have received AORs without PCCs so I wonder what the dishonesty is in that. Many peoplen on this forum are using consultants. Giving an impression that they are not smart enough is an insult. i bet you that many people applying for immigration may well end up training as immigration consultants if they don't get the jobs they hope to. Then consultants won't be seen as dishonest. Remember they are doing a job and not a charity. If they were of no use, CIC won't give you an option to use them. I have family and friends in Canada and they used consultants and were successful. As long as you find a reliable one, you are okay. As a professional, I believe in expertise and always respect oter peopes professions. If you are not using consultants keep it to yourself and if you are, keep it to yoursel as well. What is important is a successful application. I'll be honest, will I take advise from an expert or from one of us, the answer is obvious. When you have succesfully attained your visas then you can advise others. lets stop the consultant bashing and let them have their say. We may all learn something from them. Remember this forum was made possible byan immigration lawyer. Without Canadavisa, we won't be having this chat.
Everyone is entitled to have an opinion. That is reality. You have yours and the people who are not very pro-consultant have theirs. That is the beauty of forum. If we all had only one view then it is called dictatorship or communism or some such thing. I dont think canadavisa are doing charity by setting up this forum. If this was not there something else might have been in its place. I found this by googling it like most of us.
Personally i think nobody on this forum are experts and we all accept it.
 

Cur-Rozen

Hero Member
Sep 28, 2010
210
28
Ontario, Vaughan (city above Toronto)
Category........
Visa Office......
Bucharest
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Sept 20,2010
AOR Received.
Jan 13, 2011
IELTS Request
attached (L7.5 R9 W6.5 S6.5, BS7.5)
File Transfer...
2AOR - 8.03.2011
Med's Request
5.04.2011
Med's Done....
03.05.2011
Passport Req..
14.09.2011
VISA ISSUED...
28.09.2011
LANDED..........
05.02.2012
MSM-2332 said:
Yes, it is working. Turn me blue. What a relief!!!! :-* :-* :-*

Gone celebrating!!!
My congratulations!!!! Don't drink too much...! Oh, Moscow is celebrating now :)
 

Advance123

Hero Member
Oct 30, 2010
531
79
Canada
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2151
App. Filed.......
19.10.2010
File Transfer...
05.03.2011
Med's Request
29.03.2012
Med's Done....
18.09.2012
Passport Req..
09.10.2012
VISA ISSUED...
19.10.2012
LANDED..........
31.12.2012. Citizen: 2017-09-08
kolhapuri said:
Everyone is entitled to have an opinion. That is reality. You have yours and the people who are not very pro-consultant have theirs. That is the beauty of forum. If we all had only one view then it is called dictatorship or communism or some such thing. I dont think canadavisa are doing charity by setting up this forum. If this was not there something else might have been in its place. I found this by googling it like most of us.
Personally i think nobody on this forum are experts and we all accept it.
Isn't that the point I just made?
 

avi_15

Hero Member
Jul 18, 2010
826
43
USA
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-Aug-2010
Doc's Request.
Sent with the App
AOR Received.
16-Dec-2010
IELTS Request
Sent
File Transfer...
16-Dec-2010
Med's Request
25-July-2011 reached 02-Aug-2011
Med's Done....
30-Aug-2011 reached 8-Sep-2011
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
03-Nov-2011 reached 7-Nov-2011
VISA ISSUED...
18-Nov-2011 reached 25-Nov-2011
LANDED..........
03-Feb-2012
very nice cam... +1 from me..
these lawyers and consultants are a bunch of crap...i am pretty sure some of them would be
reading this forum and then advising theit "prospective clients " :)

Cam1234 said:
Mr. LaForce:

I remember a while back when a few paragraphs of your blog were posted here by an applicant. Just a few comments:

In the original blog segment posted here you were recommending people to submit applications to you for stockpiling not only for nurses NOC 3152, but also for professional services to management NOC 1122.

While no one truly knows whether these NOCs are going to be listed again by the Ministry this July, you went further on your blog to suggest there were behind the scenes talks going on by certain law firms with CIC. These talks were aimed to convince CIC to accept more applications than the 1000 cap in various NOCs, because the 20,000 general cap will no not be reached.

While I have no idea what is taking place "behind the scenes," I can certainly tell you from what I have read to date from Minister Kenney, that accepting more than 1000 applications in any NOC goes directly against what CIC is trying to accomplish. The caps are there for a reason; that is how many people they feel they need in each of those categories.

Now for informational purposes, if some applicants believe what you are saying, and submit their applications to you to be stockpiled, could you tell us how much you charge for this service? And if your behind the scene efforts with CIC fail, they don't accept more applications above the 1000 cap, and the NOCs applications are submitted under disappear come July 2011, how much of their money can applicants expect to get back?

You wrote: "Public forums are fun to read but can be harsh and dead-wrong at times." I disagree, for the most up to date info of what is taking place with the post June 26 applicants, this is the best place to come for accurate information. Our spreadsheet alone can generally determine within a few days when your application would be cashed after receipt at CIO. Similarly most people can determine when they would receive their email for passing the final eligibility review. Furthermore, any changes in application guidelines are immediately discovered by one of our forum members... I honestly believe most attorneys and consultants would benefit immensely from reading this forum.

All in my opinion,
Cam
 

9jcanada

Champion Member
Oct 16, 2010
1,020
52
Calgary Alberta
App. Filed.......
12/01/2011
AOR Received.
10/06/2011
Med's Request
09/02/2012
Med's Done....
14/02/2012
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
26/03/2012
VISA ISSUED...
04/05/2012
LANDED..........
August 2012
There are obvious valid arguments on both sides of the ongoing debate viz-a-viz consultants etc, but I fear this has the potential to derail this hitherto valuable thread. Can I ask if this discussion can be moved into a separate thread so that the value that we have all enjoyed on this thread will not be lost.

Just my 2cents

9j
 

CanadaJimmy

Hero Member
Nov 4, 2010
201
33
BC
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Advance123, I appreciate you probably quoted it before I deleted my post, but I decided to retract my statements I made for a reason so if you could remove yours too, or at least the quoted section it'd be appreciated, thanks.
 

Advance123

Hero Member
Oct 30, 2010
531
79
Canada
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2151
App. Filed.......
19.10.2010
File Transfer...
05.03.2011
Med's Request
29.03.2012
Med's Done....
18.09.2012
Passport Req..
09.10.2012
VISA ISSUED...
19.10.2012
LANDED..........
31.12.2012. Citizen: 2017-09-08
9jcanada said:
There are obvious valid arguments on both sides of the ongoing debate viz-a-viz consultants etc, but I fear this has the potential to derail this hitherto valuable thread. Can I ask if this discussion can be moved into a separate thread so that the value that we have all enjoyed on this thread will not be lost.

Just my 2cents

9j
I said the same earlier but some people still feel they have a vendetta against consultants.
Whether a consultant is used or not should not be the issue. Thats what I am trying to pass across. We shouldn't even be discussing that. Addressing pertinent issues should take prority. Lawyer or not, I wish you all the best of luck.
 

mari1981

Hero Member
Dec 9, 2010
270
19
Calgary
Category........
Visa Office......
Ankara
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Jan 2014
AOR Received.
Feb 2014
File Transfer...
April 2016
Re: A Word About the Nurse Cap on Marc Laforce's BLOG

Cam1234 said:
Mr. LaForce:

I remember a while back when a few paragraphs of your blog were posted here by an applicant. Just a few comments:

In the original blog segment posted here you were recommending people to submit applications to you for stockpiling not only for nurses NOC 3152, but also for professional services to management NOC 1122.

While no one truly knows whether these NOCs are going to be listed again by the Ministry this July, you went further on your blog to suggest there were behind the scenes talks going on by certain law firms with CIC. These talks were aimed to convince CIC to accept more applications than the 1000 cap in various NOCs, because the 20,000 general cap will no not be reached.

While I have no idea what is taking place "behind the scenes," I can certainly tell you from what I have read to date from Minister Kenney, that accepting more than 1000 applications in any NOC goes directly against what CIC is trying to accomplish. The caps are there for a reason; that is how many people they feel they need in each of those categories.

Now for informational purposes, if some applicants believe what you are saying, and submit their applications to you to be stockpiled, could you tell us how much you charge for this service? And if your behind the scene efforts with CIC fail, they don't accept more applications above the 1000 cap, and the NOCs applications are submitted under disappear come July 2011, how much of their money can applicants expect to get back?

You wrote: "Public forums are fun to read but can be harsh and dead-wrong at times." I disagree, for the most up to date info of what is taking place with the post June 26 applicants, this is the best place to come for accurate information. Our spreadsheet alone can generally determine within a few days when your application would be cashed after receipt at CIO. Similarly most people can determine when they would receive their email for passing the final eligibility review. Furthermore, any changes in application guidelines are immediately discovered by one of our forum members... I honestly believe most attorneys and consultants would benefit immensely from reading this forum.

All in my opinion,
Cam



Cam +1 from me ;)
 

Advance123

Hero Member
Oct 30, 2010
531
79
Canada
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2151
App. Filed.......
19.10.2010
File Transfer...
05.03.2011
Med's Request
29.03.2012
Med's Done....
18.09.2012
Passport Req..
09.10.2012
VISA ISSUED...
19.10.2012
LANDED..........
31.12.2012. Citizen: 2017-09-08
CanadaJimmy said:
Advance123, I appreciate you probably quoted it before I deleted my post, but I decided to retract my statements I made for a reason so if you could remove yours too, or at least the quoted section it'd be appreciated, thanks.
With due respect, its gone.
 

Advance123

Hero Member
Oct 30, 2010
531
79
Canada
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2151
App. Filed.......
19.10.2010
File Transfer...
05.03.2011
Med's Request
29.03.2012
Med's Done....
18.09.2012
Passport Req..
09.10.2012
VISA ISSUED...
19.10.2012
LANDED..........
31.12.2012. Citizen: 2017-09-08
kolhapuri said:
I thought you said "How we suddenly become experts is bewildering". Well, no one of us is an expert but that doesnt deprive us of an opinion was my point. They are not the same
You attacked my opinion on canadavisa and other things yet you talk about freedom of opinion.

How odd.
 

Pippin

VIP Member
Mar 22, 2010
4,254
530
Slow news day from CIO, unlikely any PERs will be coming out now and the natives are getting restless. Sleep well some of you, drive home carefully others, and GET BACK TO WORK the rest of you! LOL Good Luck tomorrow.
 

SatishMan

Star Member
Dec 5, 2010
145
9
India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
7215
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
05-08-2010
Doc's Request.
Submitted with application ( Notarized Copy ), IELTS & PCC origional
AOR Received.
25-11-10 ( PER ) 2nd AOR 25-02-2011
IELTS Request
Submitted with application
Med's Request
6 June 2011
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
6 June 2011
VISA ISSUED...
27 Sept 2011
mayankpandya said:
Need to know to show proof of Fund .

As i have my deposit in my Saving Account & some of Fixed Deposits.

If i take Bank Letter then do i need to tell Bank to mention FD details in Letter or I can attached Photocopy of FD ? Do i need notarised it if attached it ? I am confused.

Please need value-able advise...

Regards,
Mayank
My dear friend mayank,
For the best proof of fund to apply for immigration is the NETWORTH certificate issuied by any chartered account in canadian dollar. So you just collect all teh documents like your bank certificate, your property documents, valuer reports of property, your car docuemnts, your FD documents, i mean to say all teh document which is owned by you, Now ask teh chartered account that you want to make NETwORTH certificate, he will make it for you in indian rupees so ask him to convert it in canadian dollar with what ever rate is running on that day approxmately and make one note on the same certificate that currency is converted to canadian dollar to xyz rate and convert it to canadian dollar. I did this way and they accept it. Only you hve to send this certificate and bank certificate origional ou do not need to send any othere documents.
Thank you
 

queencougar

Hero Member
Dec 20, 2010
350
54
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
7.9.10
Doc's Request.
Sent with initial app.
AOR Received.
24.1.11
IELTS Request
Sent with initial app.
File Transfer...
4.3.11 IN PROCESS 26.7.11
Med's Request
29.11.2011
Med's Done....
30.11.2011
Passport Req..
21.12. 2011
LANDED..........
Already here on TWP.
Pippin said:
Slow news day from CIO, unlikely any PERs will be coming out now and the natives are getting restless. Sleep well some of you, drive home carefully others, and GET BACK TO WORK the rest of you! LOL Good Luck tomorrow.
We live in hope.
The alternative doesn't bear thinking about. :eek:
 

avi_15

Hero Member
Jul 18, 2010
826
43
USA
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-Aug-2010
Doc's Request.
Sent with the App
AOR Received.
16-Dec-2010
IELTS Request
Sent
File Transfer...
16-Dec-2010
Med's Request
25-July-2011 reached 02-Aug-2011
Med's Done....
30-Aug-2011 reached 8-Sep-2011
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
03-Nov-2011 reached 7-Nov-2011
VISA ISSUED...
18-Nov-2011 reached 25-Nov-2011
LANDED..........
03-Feb-2012
u are evry smart my friend...
u know that this is the right place to do ur advertisement.. so u have done ur publicity in a great fashion by putting details of how u work
u know its how hard to get people to ur office/website.. why not catch them at this forum and have thousands of eyeballs look at your company's work procedures. this is like selling something to a person even without him/her being aware

members - be aware... this is a publicity stint


mlaforce said:
Regarding the remarks from Wayne & Cam on My BLOG entry.

When I say "harsh" - I mean some of you appear to judge quickly. If somebody offers their strategic view on what to do in a situation, and he happens to be an immigration practitioner, it doesn't necessary mean that this is all part of a ruse to "get your money". I agree that a lot of practitioners are crooks. I know - and I see it all the time. So the feeling is understandable. There's one guy in Houston, for instance, who is driving me crazy and putting a really bad name for hard-working folks like my staff and other honest CSIC associates – and ruining client applications in the process.

Cam is correct in that I recommend that people continue with their 1122 and 3152 applications for possible stock-pilling. We plan to execute this strategy, if applicable by July. Remember that all of our affected customers have already paid their first (of two) instalments. The first instalment, in most cases, is $1250. Since all the work was done, that instalment is non-refundable. Since Cam has used very strong words about my situation, I'm happy that he's given me an opportunity to reply.

For those who haven't entered in an agreement with us and want to apply for a 1122 or 3152, our offer is very simple. For any applicant who prepares a FSW1 through us in an occupation that is not available, gets a full refund of his first instalment in the event the NOC is not available (in July 2011). This offer is in writing and available only to 1122 and 3152. I have put my money where my mouth is. The risk is thus shared by both client and our Firm. I take grain pains to warn clients that there's an element of risk in time and money, despite the refund; given our $125 consultation fee won't be refundable and the IELTS test is obviously non-refundable - not to mention the hard work involved in preparing a complete packet.

The back discussions that are going on with my order is not some malicious or mysterious interplay. CSIC and the other law societies of Canada appropriately lobby the CIC all the time – to exchange ideas of what works and what doesn't. Minister Kenney doesn't have to declare all the lobbying activity that goes on; at least not until official commentary is due when public policy is forming. There's nothing sinister about the process.

Regarding the said “inaccuracies” that I posted. Allow me the opportunity to explain. I'm well informed that CIC advises people to submit police certificates at the CIO stage – and we of course know that CIC went back-and-forth a few times on this one. As a policy, we submit police certificates at the CIO stage but only if it won't exacerbate the “dead-zone”; that dangerous period between a Client's decision to move forward and the time the application is received at CIO. If a Client has his application ready, including verification letters and language tests, and we're just waiting on his FBI report – there's no way I'm going to risk his FSW1 eligibility on notoriously slow FBI certificates. Remember June 2010 when IT managers were suddenly removed from the list? Remember when college instructors were removed? Did CIC give any warning? Of course not. Had I waited on the perfect application – with all the police certificates up front as what Wayne appears to advocate – before filing these occupations, they would have been denied at the gate. In some cases, being a perfectionist is not ideal. Indian police certificates are quick – I would include them at the CIO stage. Police certificates from the Middle East can be slow. The FBI can be slow or fast.

Again, I don't wish to be defensive and I'm very comfortable about what I do. I, and my dedicated two-person team, work 12-hours days. I resent that somebody who knows little about our practice lashes out at me for expressing thoughts.
 

Canada 1

Star Member
Oct 22, 2010
108
6
vancouver
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo/Los Angeles
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-10-2010
AOR Received.
14-02-2011
Med's Request
04-25-2012
Med's Done....
06-04-2012
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
18-07-2012
VISA ISSUED...
23-07-2012
LANDED..........
05-29-2013
+1 from me Avi_15.....some of us who are late applicants or who missed the cap might actually be thinking about hiring the consultants from this forum

good advertising stunt !

Ajay