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[salem10]

Dear Friends,

I have applied for PR on September 2012 under PhD stream. On March 2013 I got an email that asks me to send them POF and PhD info. I have submitted all of requested documents and also an updated reference letter (RA letter with lead statement) on April 2013.
Base on your recommendations, I ordered a CAIPS note last month an I got it today morning. Based on their assessment I got only 49 points ( Language: 14 points, Age: 10 points, and education: 25 points).
It's amazing because I have an aunt in Canada and I have provided all of related documents in my application to proof of having a relative in Canada who is citizen of Canada and living in Canada. But they did not give me any points for adaptability. In adaptability section it is mentioned that:
Spouse's education: 0
relative in Canada: Points:
Previous study in Canada: NO Points: 0
Previous Work in Canada: NO Points: 0
Arranged employment: 0
Adaptability point: 0

Also in SCHEDULE INFO section it is mentioned :
Relative in CanadaA
Relationship to relative in Canada: Aunt/Uncle

Also there is a note on my file on 9 May 2013 about my work experience as follows:

I have analyzed this application against the selection criteria for Federal Skileed Workers and make the following recommendations : Age 26=10 points Education: Master degree from *** University. From application form ,PA claims more than 17 years of education. Points = 25. Work experience: qualifiying period:7SEP02 to 7SEP12. PA claims following work experience: 1) Research Assistant (NOC4012) from SEP10 to SEP12 at University of***. PA submitted a letter of reference dated 28 AUG12 which listed duties that do not match the lead statement and there is no indication that PA assissted a faculty membe. 2) Civil Engineer (NOC2131) from AUG08 to AUG10 at *** company. PA submitted a letter of reference dated 13JUN12 which listed duties that match the lead statement but not a substantial number of main duties; PA performed actions that match 3 of 14 main duties. PA has an equivalent of 0 years of work experience, less 1 year=0 points Applicant does not appear to meet R75(2)

It's amazing that they just considered my old RA letter (which issued on 28 AUG2012). It is mentioned that they revived my updated RA letter on 24APR2013 but they did not consider my updated one in assessment


Do you have any recommendation? what can I do now?

This means you need to wait and accommodate more work experience to be eligible. You can try as other people said by adding more "spice" in a new update work experience letter. But, I don't recommend to extreme exaggerate your TA and/or RA as this will lead you to a misrepresentation and fraud.

 

[sarsanballa]

This means you need to wait and accommodate more work experience to be eligible. You can try as other people said by adding more "spice" in a new update work experience letter. But, I don't recommend to extreme exaggerate your TA and/or RA as this will lead you to a misrepresentation and fraud.

Dude, go get a life. Don't mislead people here on this thread. Trolling is strictly prohibited here.

 

[beh467]

Hello everyone,

I haven't been checking this forum for a long time now. I got my POF request in January, 2013 and sent it to Ottawa in February. I haven't heard from them yet. I was wondering if you could tell me how Ottawa sends applicants the medical request. Do they send it by email?

Thanks in advance!

Since they have not done the final assessment, while waiting for GCMS notes you can update your RA letter if you have one. (Make sure that your reference letter includes the lead statement as well as the duties)

 

[S_Govind]

Trolling is strictly prohibited here.

+1

 

[S_Govind]

But let's say you satisfy the continuous requirement through work experience back home or somewhere else, then however many hours you get from TA can be added to your total number of hours, even if it sums up to less than one full-time year.

True. I was referring to a generic applicant that just has RA/TA experience to show

 

[N_O]

Did it contain the lead statement and substantial number of duties? Did you clearly say you "assisted professors"?
The assessment may have been before your updated letter got attached to your file. In my case, it took them over 2 weeks to attach the updated letter to my file. Even though your note says the letter was received on Apr24, it may not have been attached to your file by May9 when the assessment was made.

Anyway, it doesn't hurt to send another letter. Make it even more comprehensive this time. Be sure not to contradict the previous letters.

For your adaptability, you seem to have sent all possible documents. I think kuzey is right, you will probably get the points at the final assessment.

I second what Houra suggested. I also think that the assessment was before attaching the updated reference letter, however it wouldn't hurt to update both of you reference letters again to be in the safe side, there is a new file that has most of the successful letters in PhD stream http://goo.gl/47qIZF.
I didn't find your info in the tracker, if you would like to be added there please post your dates, nationality, number of persons, ecas, and kind of work experience.
Good Luck!

 

[Holygun]

Hello all:

I am not following this forum daily, that's why am a bit behind on letters.
Anyways, Can you guys/gals please review below letter and comment for me??



To Whom It May Concern,

This letter is to verify the employment of Ms. XXXXX who worked for “XYZ” (Development Workshop) as a social science researcher from February 15, 2009 to until June 15, 2010.She was employed in the research project titled “XZZZ”. The total work experience as a social science researcher accumulated by Ms. XXX is approximately 2650 hours.

Ms. XXX was employed as a full-time social science researcher, working 40 hours per week. Ms. XXX was in the office on the work days between 08.30 and 17.30. Her annual salary was $12000, including two weeks paid vacation and benefits.

As a social science researcher her duties were:
1. Developing and conducting social research,
2. Pre-research and making literature review,
3. Planning, organizing and administering field work,
4. Developing semi-structured interview questionnaires,
5. Conducting in-depth and focus group interviews,
6. Transcription of interviews,
7. Analysing and interpreting interviews,
8. Preparing the field report,
9. Producing policy recommendation.

Please contact me if you have any questions or need more information.


This is for PHD stream and will be under NOC 4164 (http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2011/QuickSearch.aspx?val65=4164)....

Any comment is appreciated.
Thanks in advance....

 

[sia_kb8]

+1

+2

We need moderator to ban this guy. Clearly he's just wasting monitor pixels and mouse scrolls here.

 

[S_Govind]

- About the work experience letter I think you have to first make sure that your updated letter has every thing they needed. I updated my letter five times. I believe that you can take two actions in parallel:

Hey Kuzey did you get your updated GCMS notes as yet (after you passed eligibility)?. Since you updated your work experience letter more than once, it would be interesting and beneficial to the rest of us here to understand how Ottawa deals with multiple updates (i.e do they evaluate all the letters for consistency or just the most recent one).

Please share as and when you get the time to do so.

Thanks !

 

[Gloryintoronto]

"points are awarded to an applicant for experience gained in the 10 years preceding the date of the application"...this is correct meaning if you appled in july 2013, you can claim work experience gained from July 2003 to july 2013....
it is also true that CIC has to take into account "any years of experience that occur between application and assessment" meaning say eventhough you applied in July 2013, your file was not asssessed until July 2014, then technically you can update/add work experience gained within this 1 year (july 2013 to july 2014) while your file was in processing...
regarding your second question, you have to find the best NOC code that corresponds with the work you are claiming...mind you, for each NOC code they have a list of job titles accepted under that NOC for example for NOC 4012 you can use any of the following
college laboratory assistant
college teaching assistant
demonstrator, laboratory – post-secondary teaching assistance
discussion group leader – post-secondary teaching assistant
graduate assistant – university
laboratory assistant, college
laboratory assistant, university
laboratory demonstrator – post-secondary teaching assistance
laboratory supervisor – post-secondary teaching assistant
marker – post-secondary teaching assistance
post-secondary research assistant
post-secondary teaching assistant
research assistant – post-secondary
research assistant, university
teaching assistant – post-secondary
teaching assistant – university
teaching assistant, college
teaching assistant, university
tutor – post-secondary teaching assistant
university laboratory assistant
university research assistant
university teaching assistant

Most of us have used RA-university /TA-uiversity for this NOC...similarly, you have to look at the NOC codes corresponding to your area (i'm not familiar with engineering NOC codes, so i can't really comment more on this!)

Now another key thing is when you chose an NOC code/NOC title make sure you have done atleast 75-100% of the duties mentioned in that category...the more the better....we can never say what they mean by substantuial number of job duties, but if there are 10 duties listed and you performed 7 or 8 of these , i'll say you are safe!..and i know that it's hard to have done exactly the duties CIC wants...but then you have no way out...it s CICs guidelines for assessing work experience

Does the research assistantship have to be from university or college? Does a research assistantship experience, gained in the institutions other than college or university, fall under the NOC code 4012? I have a back home research assistantship experience where I assisted senior researches with research activities such as literature review, data analysis and publication but it was not at a University or college. Can I claim it under NOC code 4012? Sorry for highjacking this post.

 

[kg.jadu]

Have you guys noticed that CIC changed the design of eCAS webpage (https://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/ECAS.jsp), bringing it to a similar style with the rest of the website?

 

[dfbb]

Just saw this post. Then log in to check my case.
the 3rd and 4th line showed up today.
Medical results have been received.

A decision has been made on your application. The office will contact you concerning this decision.

Have you guys noticed that CIC changed the design of eCAS webpage (https://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/ECAS.jsp), bringing it to a similar style with the rest of the website?

 

[kuzey]

Hey S_Govind,

It is almost two months that I am trying to get my CAIPS but I couldnt. I ordered one on May 23 and after I send an email to them to inquire about my request they replied me that their online system on that specific day had problem and they couldnt be able to process my request. I ordered another one on July 5th and I did not get it yet. I will definitely let you know after I got it.

Hey Kuzey did you get your updated GCMS notes as yet (after you passed eligibility)?. Since you updated your work experience letter more than once, it would be interesting and beneficial to the rest of us here to understand how Ottawa deals with multiple updates (i.e do they evaluate all the letters for consistency or just the most recent one).

Please share as and when you get the time to do so.

Thanks !

 

[salem10]

Hello all:

I am not following this forum daily, that's why am a bit behind on letters.
Anyways, Can you guys/gals please review below letter and comment for me??



To Whom It May Concern,

This letter is to verify the employment of Ms. XXXXX who worked for “XYZ” (Development Workshop) as a social science researcher from February 15, 2009 to until June 15, 2010.She was employed in the research project titled “XZZZ”. The total work experience as a social science researcher accumulated by Ms. XXX is approximately 2650 hours.

Ms. XXX was employed as a full-time social science researcher, working 40 hours per week. Ms. XXX was in the office on the work days between 08.30 and 17.30. Her annual salary was $12000, including two weeks paid vacation and benefits.

As a social science researcher her duties were:
1. Developing and conducting social research,
2. Pre-research and making literature review,
3. Planning, organizing and administering field work,
4. Developing semi-structured interview questionnaires,
5. Conducting in-depth and focus group interviews,
6. Transcription of interviews,
7. Analysing and interpreting interviews,
8. Preparing the field report,
9. Producing policy recommendation.

Please contact me if you have any questions or need more information.


This is for PHD stream and will be under NOC 4164 (http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2011/QuickSearch.aspx?val65=4164)....

Any comment is appreciated.
Thanks in advance....

Avoid error in hrs multiplications. The letter says 2650hr/ 16 moths, this is about 38hrs/week. Then it says 40hrs/week. I think if you modify to "approximately 40hrs/week." So, this does not differ from what the pervious paragraph provided. Also, the annule income suggest you are working for a rate of about $7/hr!!!. This is very low, less than the minimum wage.
You may need to revisit your calculation of hrs as you need to keep margin for your studies and remove hrs that you doing for your studies. These hrs does not count as work experience. Full time students need a minimum of 15hr/week of study as a standard set by universities. In this concept, you can work only for 20-25hr/week. This lead to a reasonable estimation of income and the rate per hours. The hole calculation should be shows there is a logic of full time student and working for RA and /or TA. I believe your calculation might be questionable and not realistic.

 

[kaziahmmed]

Hey Kuzey did you get your updated GCMS notes as yet (after you passed eligibility)?. Since you updated your work experience letter more than once, it would be interesting and beneficial to the rest of us here to understand how Ottawa deals with multiple updates (i.e do they evaluate all the letters for consistency or just the most recent one).

Please share as and when you get the time to do so.

Thanks !

Hey Govind, when did u get ur last CAIPS? did u requested recently? I have applied for another set just today, wanted to see how they treat the updated reference letter. Although thankfully seems like I don't need to rely on that but want to refer the process for others. I think this would be really helpful coz many of us didn't get acceptance on our reference letter at the beginning nd after updating the letter we were in a severe tense whether they will consider our updated one or not. So, plz share ur updated letter experience with the forum.