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[sarsanballa]

Hi, can anyone help me with the following please:

If your last year's annual salary plus benefits are different from what you had for your previous years's salary plus benefits, then you should include those information in your work experience proof letter as per the document checklist IMM5612E.

 

[kuzey]

I updated CIC with a new work experience letter . I have a record now. I updated CIC three times with my work experience letter. The last version is just a copy paste with adding more details like the one Beh467 shared here. I was hesitated to update them with a new one as long as the last update was dated on May 17, 2013.Finally, I decided to send it because:

- I am not misrepresenting for sure
- I believe that the officer would not reject me for too many updates (If they do, I have nothing to say )
- there is no contradiction in the information that I provided to them in the last versions of my letter. (I changed the magical words like "Conducting instead of "Design and make", "results" instead of "activities". I could be considered panic to do so. But I had no way. At least if they reject me I can at least say I did whatever I can.
- It can just make my case weird to the officer that I do not care. I think I am not as weird as they are.

They did reject work experience letters before just because they were missing " assisted me" although they were included " as my research assistant and so on". So I though that they could simply reject me because of not having the term "conducting" in the letter. I even updated the work experience letter that I had from back home.

 

[Feb2004]

If your last year's annual salary plus benefits are different from what you had for your previous years's salary plus benefits, then you should include those information in your work experience proof letter as per the document checklist IMM5612E.

Thank you sarsanballa, my point is that my position remained the same for 6 years but the salary increased. I was planning to send my last year's tax return as supporting document as I have mentioned only the last year's salary in my experience letter. If I plan to show all 6 years' salaries, I don't have tax returns for all the years, and can't then show tax returns for some years and not for others; or I leave any supporting documents(tax returns altogether, which I believe are optional).
May I have your input on this.

 

[sarsanballa]

Thank you sarsanballa, my point is that my position remained the same for 6 years but the salary increased. I was planning to send my last year's tax return as supporting document as I have mentioned only the last year's salary in my experience letter. If I plan to show all 6 years' salaries, I don't have tax returns for all the years, and can't then show tax returns for some years and not for others; or I leave any supporting documents(tax returns altogether, which I believe are optional).
May I have your input on this.

I would say if your ref letter is notarized, then you don't need to submit tax returns as your supporting documents. Or if you have pay slips/ employment contracts, then I would advise you to submit those.

 

[Feb2004]

Hi Stuck In Quebec,
I can see that you are one of the few people who have sent non RA/TA experience. Did you show separate salaries for all the years of your experience in your exp letter and did you also submit any supporting documents for your work experience? I am in the process of submitting a supplementary letter and want to make it as complete as possible. Thanks.

 

[Feb2004]

I would say if your ref letter is notarized, then you don't need to submit tax returns as your supporting documents. Or if you have pay slips/ employment contracts, then I would advise you to submit those.

In my case I was not working as a permanent teacher but was full time and taught secondary classes all through. Didn't have a proper work contract, neither very good salary in the beginning. It's only for the last two years among the six years that I had proper pay slips. So will only the last year's salary be ok on the letter, I can also submit the original letter.

 

[sarsanballa]

In my case I was not working as a permanent teacher but was full time and taught secondary classes all through. Didn't have a proper work contract, neither very good salary in the beginning. It's only for the last two years among the six years that I had proper pay slips. So will only the last year's salary be ok on the letter, I can also submit the original letter.

So long as the lead statement and the main duities match the description of your chosen NOC then your letter is just fine. When I applied last year I also submitted one non RA/TA work experience letter and it was accpeted by them, I didn't provide other docs to back it up.

PS: the last year's salary only would imply that you had been receiving that amount of money up untill the last year of your work, then it should be fine in this case.

 

[Feb2004]

So long as the lead statement and the main duities match the description of your chosen NOC then your letter is just fine. When I applied last year I also submitted one non RA/TA work experience letter and it was accpeted by them, I didn't provide other docs to back it up.

PS: the last year's salary only would imply that you had been receiving that amount of money up untill the last year of your work, then it should be fine in this case.

Thank you so much. I will send the letter with only the last year's salary, so no need to attach tax return or salary slip for one year, as it will unnecessarily raise the question for other years' salary slips. My duties perfectly match the NOC, my supplementary letter is just to polish up those duties. I think I will notarize the letter.

 

[Stuck In Quebec]

Hi Stuck In Quebec,
I can see that you are one of the few people who have sent non RA/TA experience. Did you show separate salaries for all the years of your experience in your exp letter and did you also submit any supporting documents for your work experience? I am in the process of submitting a supplementary letter and want to make it as complete as possible. Thanks.

Hi Feb2004

I submitted only work exp from home. I just attached the reference letter from the employers as I didn't have a contract and my kind of work doesn't involve a contract. Anyhow I didnt attach anything except that as gathering tax slips and bank statements etc will be an impossible task for me. I will see and let fate decide. There is no fixed protocol, its just sheer luck. So will live by it.

For you, if you can arrange the documents you mentioned, do so. Overdoing won't harm.

Best of luck.

 

[chakri264]

For TA/RA experience in 12b, I work as a TA only 8 months a year and as RA all the year long. so should I just combine the number of hours I did as TA and RA and put in one column or should I separate them.

They want the experience to be continuous. If there is any break they will not consider it. However, the fact is there are no undergrads to TA during summer. I don't think the visa officer will think that far. Just add up the RA/TA hours but not the job duties. Describe them in individual bullet points.

 

[asbereth]

The only change is that in the past the two years had to be a program (completed a program of full-time study) but now it does not have to be a program (completed 2 years of full-time study). For both manuals, the title says "previous" study. The interpretation of the word "previous" led to many applicants being confused why those 5 points were not awarded, and the word still exists. If its interpretation is still the same, the outcome will still be the same!

I think what was emphasized from a lot of rejections last year (that were due to not being granted these five points) was the fact that the program was not completed. Canada Gazette from last year elaborates this change of wording

To be awarded points for their previous study in Canada, the applicant or accompanying spouse would need to have obtained, studying full time in a program of at least a two-year duration, the necessary credits to successfully complete two years of study. For the purposes of adaptability, secondary school will be accepted as an eligible program of study.

http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-08-18/html/reg2-eng.html

And pursuant to R83(b), an applicant is granted five points

(b) for a period of full-time study in Canada by the skilled worker of at least two academic years in a program of at least two years in duration whether or not they obtained an educational credential for completing the program and during which period they remained in good academic standing as defined by the institution, 5 points;

"Previous" here I think refers to the fact that the two years of study had already happened in the past (for example, the first two years of my PhD would be considered my "previous" study in Canada). I don't think "study" here necessarily means a block of study, or a program of study, but just "any" period of study

They want the experience to be continuous. If there is any break they will not consider it. However, the fact is there are no undergrads to TA during summer. I don't think the visa officer will think that far. Just add up the RA/TA hours but not the job duties. Describe them in individual bullet points.

TA/RA are both under the same NOC, so I think the fact that you only have TA for some terms, and you don't for some other terms won't matter. The continuous work experience, I believe, is only a requirement for one full-time year within the last 10 years. It means that, if you can locate a continuous period of 1,560 hours within the last 10 years, then you pass this minimum work experience requirement. All of the other work experience you have will just be additive to this one year, and all will be counted. Please correct me if my interpretation here is not correct

Ur friend will need to get his/her Canadian Master's degree ONLY to apply. For specifics, please refer to the following link
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/EG7TOC.asp

Quote "You will be awarded up to 25 points for your HIGHEST completed Canadian educational credential or for your HIGHEST equivalency to a completed Canadian educational credential."

Yes, since your friend has already graduated with a Master's degree from Canada, then it is enough for him to show his Canadian Master's degree to claim the 23 points. Remember that there is no longer the requirement of the total number of years for education points, as it is based on the highest completed Canadian degree, or its equivalent.

The only time where you may want to evaluate both of your degrees is if you try to claim 22 points for two three-year long foreign Bachelor's degree. If you already have a Canadian Master's degree (or its equivalent), then having your Bachelor's degree evaluated won't do anything.

 

[Feb2004]

In my dept. the TA/RA is allocated for a year, they may give one or two semesters to complete the hours. So I think those hours count towards a complete year, and is continuous.

 

[Feb2004]

Hi Feb2004

I submitted only work exp from home. I just attached the reference letter from the employers as I didn't have a contract and my kind of work doesn't involve a contract. Anyhow I didnt attach anything except that as gathering tax slips and bank statements etc will be an impossible task for me. I will see and let fate decide. There is no fixed protocol, its just sheer luck. So will live by it.

For you, if you can arrange the documents you mentioned, do so. Overdoing won't harm.

Best of luck.

Thanks Stuck In Quebec,
I know the ideal situation would be to provide as many supporting documents as possible. But in my case as I have said earlier, I can just show the last year's salary without writing that this is the salary for 2009-10 etc. If I attach salary statement for that particular year only, then they may question what about other years. As I don't have the complete set of supporting documents for other years I should not attach partial ones. Therefore, as I discussed with sarsanballa, only the experience letter should be submitted.
My letter has this line: *****worked thirty six hours per week and her annual gross salary was Rupees ******.

 

[Stuck In Quebec]

Thanks Stuck In Quebec,
I know the ideal situation would be to provide as many supporting documents as possible. But in my case as I have said earlier, I can just show the last year's salary without writing that this is the salary for 2009-10 etc. If I attach salary statement for that particular year only, then they may question what about other years. As I don't have the complete set of supporting documents for other years I should not attach partial ones. Therefore, as I discussed with sarsanballa, only the experience letter should be submitted.
My letter has this line: *****worked thirty six hours per week and her annual gross salary was Rupees ******.

Ahhh so are also stuck on rupee. Dude just keep it simple and avoid bureaucracy and just give the reference letter. Tax returns and pay slips will make it hell lot confusing. Let them ask if they want. For now as per ur discussion with sarsanballa, just submit the reference with exact wording, rest you never know with these guys.

Best of luck.

 

[Feb2004]

Ahhh so are also stuck on rupee. Dude just keep it simple and avoid bureaucracy and just give the reference letter. Tax returns and pay slips will make it hell lot confusing. Let them ask if they want. For now as per ur discussion with sarsanballa, just submit the reference with exact wording, rest you never know with these guys.

Best of luck.

Should I not write rupees? Do I need to convert it into CAD? If I convert, you know how miniscule the amount will become.