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TyrusX

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19-01-2012
Doc's Request.
sent with application
AOR Received.
First: -03-2012
IELTS Request
sent with application
rgb said:
Tyrusx: did your ECAS also showed the line: "A decision has been made on your application. The office will contact you concerning this decision", right after medical results too?
It has, DECISION MADE. IT IS GOOD NEWS!
 

TyrusX

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Doc's Request.
sent with application
AOR Received.
First: -03-2012
IELTS Request
sent with application
unb_wood said:
Hi Guys,

Just got email from CIC office, They rejected my application by job duties and responsibilities. The officer is also FA01772.
Actually, I prepared my RA reference letter using a template provided by my friend who successfully got his permanent residence by claiming the RA working experience.
It seems there are lots of rejections for the same reason in last few days. The PhD stream is really ridiculous. Can we find a solution together?
I'm sorry to hear about your rejection.

Unfortunately I get the impression that they wanted people with real work experience. But one thing that I learned is that Phd students take too much for granted in their application. They should not expected to be treated better than anyone. It is important to have a complete and strong application from the beginning.
 

Feb2004

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CPC-Ottawa (OPNP)
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NA
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-8-2014
Nomination.....
11-8-2014
AOR Received.
29-10-2014
IELTS Request
8.0
Med's Request
31-10-2014
Med's Done....
1-12-2014
Interview........
PCC & RPRF 21-5-2015 (in process);PCC reached 4th June, RPRF paid 5th June.
Passport Req..
DM & PPR 13 Aug
VISA ISSUED...
20 Aug 2015. PP & COPR recd 26-8-2015
LANDED..........
6 Sept 2015
Hi TyrusX,

Did CIC call up the company where you worked to verify your work experience?
 

ottawa_immig

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Apr 5, 2013
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aidina said:
I am sorry. Lots of people have been rejected for this reason. I got rejected for the same reason a few days ago as well. May you please share your reference letter. It might be helpful for those who plan re-applying. Do not really they think that this large volume of rejection for the same reason is a bit unusual?
Dear All

I found this forum and indeed it is very useful. After all of this tragic refusals, I skimmed through the internet. I found another way of appealing - besides the same visa office and the federal court- and I urge all of whom have been refused to use this last resort, to create a recognized pattern of complaints (mentioned in that website). Please google " Case Management Branch cic" and choose the first link.

There is an email in that pdf for immigration case reviews, especially, for those whom don't want to go through litigation. Please try to prepare a good email, supported by excerpts of Operation Manuals especially OP 6B. Also, it worth to mention all of these inconsistencies in awarding adaptability points (awarding at CIO and removing at visa office, not awarding points for kids born in Canada before new regulations as most of the cases, not awarding points for spouse's education, not taking into consideration arranged employment offers) and the infamous work experience letter issue.
 

unb_wood

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Mar 26, 2013
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My application reached CIO on March 21, 2012 and got the file number on April 4,2012.

websphereguy said:
What is the exact date you submitted your application? I know you mentioned it was in March 2012. But what was the date?
 

unb_wood

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Mar 26, 2013
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Can we work together to write an email to find an answer for our case?
Large amount of case rejected for the same reason should be screened out during initial reviewing stage.

ottawa_immig said:
Dear All

I found this forum and indeed it is very useful. After all of this tragic refusals, I skimmed through the internet. I found another way of appealing - besides the same visa office and the federal court- and I urge all of whom have been refused to use this last resort, to create a recognized pattern of complaints (mentioned in that website). Please google " Case Management Branch cic" and choose the first link.

There is an email in that pdf for immigration case reviews, especially, for those whom don't want to go through litigation. Please try to prepare a good email, supported by excerpts of Operation Manuals especially OP 6B. Also, it worth to mention all of these inconsistencies in awarding adaptability points (awarding at CIO and removing at visa office, not awarding points for kids born in Canada before new regulations as most of the cases, not awarding points for spouse's education, not taking into consideration arranged employment offers) and the infamous work experience letter issue.
 

asbereth

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Feb 17, 2012
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Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-02-2012<br>PR Fee Charged: 05-03-2012<br>PER Received..: 21-03-2012
Doc's Request.
26-02-2013<br>In process.....: 21-03-2013
Med's Request
22-03-2013
Med's Done....
26-03-2013 <br>Med's Received: 15-04-2013 <br>Decision Made: 15-04-2013
Passport Req..
16-04-2013
VISA ISSUED...
29-04-2013 <br>COPR ISSUED..: 15-05-2013<br>VISA RECEIVED: 16-05-2013
LANDED..........
16-05-2013
aidina said:
This letter is issued to supplement the information given in the university reference letter dated March 1, 2012 regarding the main duties conducted by Mr. **** as a Research Assistant. Hereby, we confirm in more detail that Mr. ***** has been working as a Research Assistant at ****** since Jan. 2010 (minimum 36.25 hrs per week) assisting Dr. ****** in doing laboratory experiments, data acquisition, analysis and post-processing of results, writing reports, and preparation of scientific journal papers and international conference presentations both as a first author and co-author.
I'm really at a loss for words as to why these descriptions for RA would be rejected. The HRSDC website mentions that

research assistants perform some or all of the following duties:
Conduct literature reviews, surveys, laboratory experiments and other research for use in scholarly publications
Compile research results and assist professors in the analysis of results and the preparation of journal articles or papers.
Your supervisors mentioned 'doing laboratory experiments and data acquisition', which should be covered under 'other research' as in one of the main duties. Likewise, your supervisors also mentioned 'analysis and post-processing of results, and preparation of scientific journal papers', which match really well with the second description.

I think what's really missing here are some key words such as 'conduct', 'compile', and 'assist', and unfortunately, these officers can't really make the connection that what you wrote, and what's written on the HRSDC website are basically just one and the same thing :(
 

asbereth

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Visa Office......
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NOC Code......
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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-02-2012<br>PR Fee Charged: 05-03-2012<br>PER Received..: 21-03-2012
Doc's Request.
26-02-2013<br>In process.....: 21-03-2013
Med's Request
22-03-2013
Med's Done....
26-03-2013 <br>Med's Received: 15-04-2013 <br>Decision Made: 15-04-2013
Passport Req..
16-04-2013
VISA ISSUED...
29-04-2013 <br>COPR ISSUED..: 15-05-2013<br>VISA RECEIVED: 16-05-2013
LANDED..........
16-05-2013
salam20 said:
I am so sorry to hear that. There is a list of what we can do:

Someone can get advice on the work experience letter format including the leading statement and duties from
1) a lawyer, ( if you have a friend who works for a lawyer)
2) MP office, (you can complant to them, they know who is the right person to contacted, they willl help, as it is federal issue)
3) PhD stream program director
a) You can ask him / her to provide a template on the work experience that they are looking for Research and Teaching assisstants
b) You can ask him/ her for reconsideration of your application
c) You can ask him/ her to describe how they want the work experience letter to look like.
4) The minister office (You can complain and ask for the samethings in (3))

Please all fellows who got the rejection email, please consider two things:
1) Reconsideration letters– If the refusal was based on an error in fact or in law, and/or if that decision was not in accordance with the principles of procedural fairness, write to the Program Manager of the Canadian Visa Office to point out the errors and to request a reconsideration of the refusal decision;

2) Appeal – Wrongful refusals may, in certain instances, be appealed to the Federal Court of Canada or to the appropriate provincial court or, in the case of family sponsorships, to the Immigration Appeal Division.

the lastest two points are listed on http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/how-to-appeal-our-rejection-app-urgent-plssssssss-t96574.0.html
These are all fine and good, but I think several people have tried contacting the MPs and ministers to no avail. And no appeal to the VO has been successful, though rejected applicants like Luigiovemma and aidina may have some chances of success (slim as that may be), so hopefully we'll hear some good news about them soon. I'm curious about the PhD stream program director though. Where have you heard about such a person, and how can we contact them?
 

salam20

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asbereth said:
These are all fine and good, but I think several people have tried contacting the MPs and ministers to no avail. And no appeal to the VO has been successful, though rejected applicants like Luigiovemma and aidina may have some chances of success (slim as that may be), so hopefully we'll hear some good news about them soon. I'm curious about the PhD stream program director though. Where have you heard about such a person, and how can we contact them?
email to the ottpilot-immigration@cic.gc.ca that addresses the PhD stream program director.

source : http://www.canadavisa.com/canadian-immigration-application-refusal.html
 

salam20

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ottawa_immig said:
Dear All

I found this forum and indeed it is very useful. After all of this tragic refusals, I skimmed through the internet. I found another way of appealing - besides the same visa office and the federal court- and I urge all of whom have been refused to use this last resort, to create a recognized pattern of complaints (mentioned in that website). Please google " Case Management Branch cic" and choose the first link.

There is an email in that pdf for immigration case reviews, especially, for those whom don't want to go through litigation. Please try to prepare a good email, supported by excerpts of Operation Manuals especially OP 6B. Also, it worth to mention all of these inconsistencies in awarding adaptability points (awarding at CIO and removing at visa office, not awarding points for kids born in Canada before new regulations as most of the cases, not awarding points for spouse's education, not taking into consideration arranged employment offers) and the infamous work experience letter issue.
thanks for advice, would you like to add more advice or experience?
 

salam20

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i noticed a nice thing:

if you provide only one year of experience in Canada you will be awarded the 15 under employment plus 5 more points under adaptability. So please all consider it in your applications and appeals.
 

salam20

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ottawa_immig said:
Dear All

I found this forum and indeed it is very useful. After all of this tragic refusals, I skimmed through the internet. I found another way of appealing - besides the same visa office and the federal court- and I urge all of whom have been refused to use this last resort, to create a recognized pattern of complaints (mentioned in that website). Please google " Case Management Branch cic" and choose the first link.

There is an email in that pdf for immigration case reviews, especially, for those whom don't want to go through litigation. Please try to prepare a good email, supported by excerpts of Operation Manuals especially OP 6B. Also, it worth to mention all of these inconsistencies in awarding adaptability points (awarding at CIO and removing at visa office, not awarding points for kids born in Canada before new regulations as most of the cases, not awarding points for spouse's education, not taking into consideration arranged employment offers) and the infamous work experience letter issue.
thank you so much once again, the source and contact is here:

www.cba.org/cba/cle/PDF/IMM11_Chomyn_Slides.pdf
Please contact us if:

• You have a case where there are exceptional circumstances (example: urgent protection cases)
• There is a case that may not have been appropriately dealt with by a CIC local office or visa office and where litigation is to be avoided
• If you notice a number of cases in which you believe there exists a pattern
• If you have not received a reply to your enquiries within 30 days of contacting

E‐mail: Case‐Review‐im‐enquiry@cic.gc.ca
Fax: (613) 957‐7235

• When referring a case to us please remember to submit a completed Use of Representative Form [IMM 5476] to safeguard the privacy of our clients
 

anjuku

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4011 and 4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-04-2012
Doc's Request.
16-05-2013
Nomination.....
25-04-2012 (PER)
IELTS Request
SENT WITH APPLICATION (OVERALL BAND SCORE 8.5)
Med's Request
17-05-2013
Med's Done....
23-05-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
04-06-2013; Passports sent in on 22-06- 2013; Passports received by ottawa on 25-06-2013
VISA ISSUED...
visas received on July 9, 2013
LANDED..........
July 10, 2013
salam20 said:
thank you so much once again, the source and contact is here:

www.cba.org/cba/cle/PDF/IMM11_Chomyn_Slides.pdf
Please contact us if:

• You have a case where there are exceptional circumstances (example: urgent protection cases)
• There is a case that may not have been appropriately dealt with by a CIC local office or visa office and where litigation is to be avoided
• If you notice a number of cases in which you believe there exists a pattern
• If you have not received a reply to your enquiries within 30 days of contacting

E‐mail: Case‐Review‐im‐enquiry @ cic.gc.ca
Fax: (613) 957‐7235

• When referring a case to us please remember to submit a completed Use of Representative Form [IMM 5476] to safeguard the privacy of our clients
i think this is a great idea!...especially because of the "If you notice a number of cases in which you believe there exists a pattern" part!..
 

websphereguy

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Singapore
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Ottawa
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2173
App. Filed.......
17 Jan 2014
Doc's Request.
send altogether during filing
Nomination.....
17 Apr 2014
Med's Request
23 Jun 2014
Med's Done....
02 Oct 2014
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
08 Apr 2015
VISA ISSUED...
27 Apr 2015
LANDED..........
02 May 2015
TyrusX said:
Here an example of one of my jobs, with some editings:

Period of employment ( start - end)
name of profession: BLA BLA

Projects where TyrusX was attached to:

Project 1: Name of Project
Duties and Responsibilities:
bla bla bla

Project 2: Name of Project 2
Duties and Responsibilities:
• Development of software for xxx and yyyy applications using C++, C, PostgreSQL, and Javscript and OpenGL.
• Writing manuals and training xxxx users to use the software developed
• To interview and recruit new students, programmers and researchers into the organization.
• To supervise and advice employees and students accordingly, working with them to achieve better productivity, overseeing their training and activities.
• To plan, organize, control and manage the xxxx software being developed by the group, for project x and y, as well as risks and costs.
• To plan meet with stakeholders as well requirement gathering and the specification of costs and timelines of deliverables (Gantt and Pert Charts).
• To enforce the software development process as well as to use tool to track and evaluate the tasks in order to improve the process according to the best practices of project management defined in standards as MPS-BR and CMMII

Outcomes of project:
outcome 1
outcome 2

Project 3: Name of Project 3
Duties and Responsibilities: ....


But I also had a contract, and was a registered employee, so I also had my overall responsabilities on my contract, which was 2 pages long at least, and other form of documents to show I was employed as well.
That's exactly how I did mine too :)