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[TyrusX]

The way I applied using my RA experience only: Fall and Winters 20 hours/ week and Summer 40 hours/week. That means two falls, two winters and one summer gives you enough hours for one year of continuous experience.

I got PER with my RA experience only and hoping CPP-O will not frustrate me.

Jubayer

That works.

 

[utopie]

Isn't the total hours different for the phd stream? You can't work full time while being a full-time student, right?

You mean otuside campus? Yes you can if you have a regular work permit along with a study permit, which is my case. But usually students only have an off-campus work permit

 

[thundervikes]

You mean otuside campus? Yes you can if you have a regular work permit along with a study permit, which is my case. But usually students only have an off-campus work permit

Do you mean you can be a "full-time student" and be "full-time working" at the same time? Thank you for sharing your experience.

 

[aililia]

Do you mean you can be a "full-time student" and be "full-time working" at the same time? Thank you for sharing your experience.

Yes, it's possible. By definition full time student is one who studies at least 20 hours per week. So, one can work 37.5 hours and be a full time worker as an RA.

 

[Brit_Immigrant]

You mean otuside campus? Yes you can if you have a regular work permit along with a study permit, which is my case. But usually students only have an off-campus work permit

Are you sure about this? You cannot legally have a regular work permit and a study permit at the same time. If you are a full time student, you may only have an off campus work permit. If you apply for an open work permit, your study permit will automatically be terminated.

 

[aililia]

Are you sure about this? You cannot legally have a regular work permit and a study permit at the same time. If you are a full time student, you may only have an off campus work permit. If you apply for an open work permit, your study permit will automatically be terminated.

If one already had a work permit he/she could apply for a study permit while having the work permit valid!

 

[Brit_Immigrant]

If one already had a work permit he/she could apply for a study permit while having the work permit valid!

OK, so in very rare circumstances you can. When you have been working in Canada before you started your PhD. I assume you then have to keep that work permit for the duration of the PhD somehow as you cannot reapply for it when it expires if you have a full time study permit?

 

[utopie]

OK, so in very rare circumstances you can. When you have been working in Canada before you started your PhD. I assume you then have to keep that work permit for the duration of the PhD somehow as you cannot reapply for it when it expires if you have a full time study permit?

I actually applied for a work permit AFTER getting a study permit. It is possible to do so: I got mine last August and I've been a student since 2005 (MA than PhD). And yes you can definitely reapply for one while studying. Nowhere does it state that you cannot be a full-time student and a full-time worker. But yes people rarely apply for both

 

[Brit_Immigrant]

I actually applied for a work permit AFTER getting a study permit. It is possible to do so: I got mine last August and I've been a student since 2005 (MA than PhD). And yes you can definitely reapply for one while studying. Nowhere does it state that you cannot be a full-time student and a full-time worker. But yes people rarely apply for both

I spoke to someone at CIC and at my University about this and said I could not do it. That has annoyed me quite a lot. I am going to apply for a full work permit now. Thanks for the info!

 

[TyrusX]

I spoke to someone at CIC and at my University about this and said I could not do it. That has annoyed me quite a lot. I am going to apply for a full work permit now. Thanks for the info!

You can, but you will need a LMO and a job offer.

 

[Brit_Immigrant]

You can, but you will need a LMO and a job offer.

I have a job and a permanent job offer. I guess the LMO will take some time though and may not be worth the wait.

How do you satisfy this requirement: "satisfy an officer that you will leave Canada at the end of your employment" if you have applied for permanent residency? I guess it means if you havn't obtained permanent residency you have to satisfy them that you will leave!

 

[TyrusX]

I have a job and a permanent job offer. I guess the LMO will take some time though and may not be worth the wait.

How do you satisfy this requirement: "satisfy an officer that you will leave Canada at the end of your employment" if you have applied for permanent residency? I guess it means if you havn't obtained permanent residency you have to satisfy them that you will leave!

Hum. Canada accepts dual intent. But, this may still be a issue. You have to prove that you have enough links with your home country, including financial assets there. Fact is, utopie probably did this before applying for PR...

 

[hamed_hamed_hamed]

Hello Guys,
Today I received my CAIPS notes. There is no evidence in the CAIPS that indicates they considered my updated reference letters.
Back in January, they refused my application because of insufficient work experiences. At that time, I noticed that they only considered the reference letters that I sent with my application. However later I sent them updated letters, six month after I submitted my application, and I expected they consider the updated letters.

In their refusal email, they only referred to my old letters. So I wrote an email to them and asked why my updated letters were not considered. They replied back that "We did consider your new letters, blah blah".
So I had no other way but to order my CAIPS notes to see what they did.

Today I got my CAIPS by email. It's a PDF including some strange code names and there is no sign of my sent documents even a scan of them.
The only thing I found was a half-page text from the officer who assessed my application. The text is an inter-office text. They wrote it for their internal use.
All they wrote there, is almost the same reasons for which they refused my App. And again, even in that text they only referred to my old letters.

Now, I have my CAIPS with a half-page text explaining my refusal which is all referring to my old letters. On the other hand they said in the second email that they did consider my new letters.

This is kind of contradiction. Isn't it? What is your suggestion? I almost prepared my new application and I am going to send it this week. But I'm going to push on the contradiction they created. Maybe they re-open my application. Shouldn't I?
Please any ideas? What do you think?

 

[websphereguy]

Folks, don't expect any big updates for the next 2 weeks. Especially for those from the 2nd half of Feb who have been biting their nails like crazy (pun intended). Fact is, next week is spring break for school children in Ontario. So, lots of case officers might go on leave. Infact some could have done so this week itself. If history is any indicator, just recall last year how inactive it gets during long breaks (x'mas and even school breaks).

 

[asbereth]

Hello Guys,
Today I received my CAIPS notes. There is no evidence in the CAIPS that indicates they considered my updated reference letters.
Reminding back in January, they refused my application because insufficient work experiences. At that time, I noticed that they only considered my reference letters that I sent in the first time. However I sent them updated letter six month after I submitted my application, and I expected they consider the updated letters.

Their refusal email only referred to my old letters. So I wrote an email to them and asked why my updated letters were not considered. They replied back that "We did consider your new letters, blah blah".
So I had no other way but to order my CAIPS notes to see what I have.

Todat I got my CAIPS by email. It's a PDF including some codes and there no sing of my sent documents even a scan of them.
The only thing I found was a text from the officer who assessed my application. The text is an inter-office text. They wrote it for their internal use.
All they wrote there is almost the same reasons for which they refused my App. And again, even in that text they only refer to my old letters.

Now, I have my CAIPS with a half-page text explaining my refusal which is all referring to my old letters. On the other hand they said in the second email that they considered my new letters.

This is kind of contradiction. Isn't it? What is your suggestion? I almost prepared my new application and I am going to send it this week. But I'm going to push on the contradiction they created. Maybe they re-open my application. Shouldn't I?
Please any ideas?

I would say that chances are slim, so if your new application is ready, send it immediately, then you can probably try some possible avenues for appealing. But what I'm saying is, do not just appeal and rely on that, because the probability of you winning the appeal is so small, so send a new application (make sure there are no holes in your new application; bank statement history with 6 months activity, all above threshold, and no deposits; all required PCC's, and super strong reference letters with all claimed hours calculated and stated in the letter).

Remember, when you write new RA/TA letter, make sure to also give little details on your actual research, and ALSO include some descriptions for NOC 4012 (say something like, 'doing laboratory experiment for alternate fuel, data analysis of alternate fuel experimental results using such and such software, etc). Don't just write out generic NOC 4012 descriptions (but do so in a way that doesn't contradict your old letter: example: saying you're doing lab experiments for alternate fuel does not contradict 'just doing lab experiments', you're just expounding it), I think we found this out the hard way through rejections of some applicants.