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espg_007

Star Member
Aug 17, 2014
96
10
cantaloupe said:
As other members mentioned, your file will be assessed on the basis of the Ministerial Instructions in place at the time of submission which means your work experience while you were a full-time student will be taken into account. I'm not surprised that your immigration consultant has provided you with misleading counsel; that's what they often do!

My suggestion is: write a concise cover letter and make it very clear that the letter is not meant to be a piece of your application (your letter's date will also support that). Rather, it only serves as a means of clarification. Also mention that you have renewed your payment form just in case your file is put into processing again. Don't REPLACE your old form... simply staple the new one to your cover letter along with a COPY of the correspondence you have received from the CIC rep. Then enclose this bundle to your old file's envelope and put everything in a package and mail them to CIC.

Good luck!
Thank you for your reply! Yeah I was stunned when she immediately got it wrong. I guess that is what I get for going to a "Free" consultation (offered by my consulate once per month).

Ok, I will follow your advice on the CC issue. Thanks again!
 

cantaloupe

Star Member
Jul 25, 2014
157
35
Ontario
When medical and security are passed, your file is reviewed by the officer who approved your eligibility and criminality. Then the officer makes a final decision (=approval).

noc4012NOV2014 said:
Dear all,
Finally, after I called cpo-o yesterday and checked if my medical has been received, I got third line updated. Meanwhile, the officer replied my email saying:


Dear client,

Your application appears nearly complete. It is presently in queue for a final review. We will be in contact with you to advise on any further actions that may be required on your part.

We thank you for your patience,


What is "final review"??
 

noc4012NOV2014

Star Member
Dec 9, 2014
122
13
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-O
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-11-2014
Nomination.....
16-02-2015
Med's Request
24-04-2015; second line 23-04-2015
Med's Done....
30-04-2015;uploaded 07-05-2015
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
first time 27May, second time10June, DM 30May
VISA ISSUED...
12June2015, passport arrives CPC-O
cantaloupe said:
When medical and security are passed, your file is reviewed by the officer who approved your eligibility and criminality. Then the officer makes a final decision (=approval).
Thanks you, Cantaloupe. Hope this final review will not take too long. :)
 

noc4012NOV2014

Star Member
Dec 9, 2014
122
13
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-O
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-11-2014
Nomination.....
16-02-2015
Med's Request
24-04-2015; second line 23-04-2015
Med's Done....
30-04-2015;uploaded 07-05-2015
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
first time 27May, second time10June, DM 30May
VISA ISSUED...
12June2015, passport arrives CPC-O
cantaloupe said:
BTW what did you mean by "calling" cpc-o? they didn't have a public phone number as far as I can recall!
They do! The number is +1 888-242-2100
 

yahia.eldemerdash

Full Member
Oct 18, 2013
45
2
espg_007 said:
Hi all, (I apologize for the long post but I could REALLY use your help)

Some of you may remember my very unfortunate case, but here is a reminder: I submitted my application in September 2014 and was rejected at the CIO early stage in late December (before CC charge). I only received the application when I came back from Christmas break in mid-January, so it was too late to re-apply.

The reason for the rejection was “...not provided sufficient evidence that you have a minimum of one year of continuous full-time, or equivalent part-time, paid work experience in the primary occupation in the last ten years...”. I did submit two letters, one listing my experience as TA for 3 years (~350 hours total), and one with my experience as RA (~3120 hours). In hindsight, having two separate letters was a bad idea, since it required extra attention from them to add up the numbers. I do not have any other work experience.

Back in January 13th I sent both a letter and an email (with copies of the experience letters attached) explaining what I think was their mistake. Astonishingly, today I received an email reply from “TAM” at the Client Service Unit explaining that since they don't keep records of the returned applications, in order to comment on the return he/she asks me to send back the unaltered application to his/her office for a review!!

Of course I am keeping my expectations VERY low, but it seems that there might be a chance that if I can provide a clear enough explanation, this person could put my application back on track!

So here is my question: back in February I consulted with an Immigration Specialist. Her almost immediate (and final) answer was that CIC was right and that I shouldn't have even applied since it is clearly stated (she showed me the line but I can't remember where it was) that any work experience obtained while being a full-time student is not counted. This link seems to suggest that for FSW it should be counted: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=855&t=6, but it doesn't explicitly says if you can be a full time student at the same time.

I know that many of you here have applied with only NOC 4012 experience obtained while being full-time students in Canada, so how would you refute her argument?

Thank you very much for ANY help!!
Good luck with the review of your application. I just want to tell you that something similar happened to me. I applied in April, 2013 and my file was rejected from Ottawa in May 2014. The reason of rejection was the same as yours. But in my case I had 5 years experience from my home country, but the letter I submitted was not dated so the officer did not consider it. I sent email to CIC in May 2014 asking them to review my application and consider my ref. letter. Ofcourse I had no hope to get an answer from them, but in Oct. 2014 I got an email that my case is reopened and they sent me the medical request and asked for support documents from home country.

Do not lose hope, and try your best to prepare clear evidence/ documents to support your case.

Best wishes
 

espg_007

Star Member
Aug 17, 2014
96
10
yahia.eldemerdash said:
Good luck with the review of your application. I just want to tell you that something similar happened to me. I applied in April, 2013 and my file was rejected from Ottawa in May 2014. The reason of rejection was the same as yours. But in my case I had 5 years experience from my home country, but the letter I submitted was not dated so the officer did not consider it. I sent email to CIC in May 2014 asking them to review my application and consider my ref. letter. Ofcourse I had no hope to get an answer from them, but in Oct. 2014 I got an email that my case is reopened and they sent me the medical request and asked for support documents from home country.

Do not lose hope, and try your best to prepare clear evidence/ documents to support your case.

Best wishes
Hey thanks for sharing your case and giving me a bit more hope! I think that the explanation I sent in my email must have been clear enough for them to ask me to send back the application. I am now hoping that they won't find any other problems.
 

lulufu910

Newbie
Sep 29, 2014
7
0
Emergent case! I lost my credit card

I applied on Dec 2014 under PHD Stream, and I got per on March, 2015. I lost my credit card yesterday that I used for all the payment would be charged by CIC. The new credit card is on the way, I will get it 2-3 days later. What can I do to inform CIC?
Will it effect my medical exam charge?
Thanks,
Lulu
 

PhD2014

Star Member
Jan 15, 2015
129
10
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-OTTAWA
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October 2nd, 2014
AOR Received.
PER jan 13th, 2015
IELTS Request
RPRF March 31st, 2015
Med's Request
April 1st, 2015
Med's Done....
April 17th, 2015
Interview........
Decision made on May 27th, 2015
Passport Req..
June 10th, 2015
VISA ISSUED...
June 16th, 2015
LANDED..........
June 22nd, 2015
Re: Emergent case! I lost my credit card

Hi
Credit card information is only for the initial charge ($550). You should pay the RPRF and the Medical expenses yourself.
You do not need to update your CC information.

lulufu910 said:
I applied on Dec 2014 under PHD Stream, and I got per on March, 2015. I lost my credit card yesterday that I used for all the payment would be charged by CIC. The new credit card is on the way, I will get it 2-3 days later. What can I do to inform CIC?
Will it effect my medical exam charge?
Thanks,
Lulu
 

lulufu910

Newbie
Sep 29, 2014
7
0
noc4012NOV2014 said:
Dear all,
Finally, after I called cpo-o yesterday and checked if my medical has been received, I got third line updated. Meanwhile, the officer replied my email saying:


Dear client,

Your application appears nearly complete. It is presently in queue for a final review. We will be in contact with you to advise on any further actions that may be required on your part.

We thank you for your patience,


What is "final review"??
Hi, may I ask what is the CIC's email address?
Thanks,
Lulu
 

Enginer315

Star Member
Jul 17, 2012
105
11
BC
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottowa
NOC Code......
2132
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-11-2014
Nomination.....
11-02-2015
AOR Received.
14-05-2015
IELTS Request
submitted with application
Med's Request
15-05-2015
Med's Done....
19-05-2015
Interview........
4th Line (DM): 29-05-2015
Passport Req..
03-07-2015
VISA ISSUED...
07-07-2015
LANDED..........
26-07-2015
Just a question:

Can you claim yourself as PR after getting RPRF. Can I change my student status as "International student fee paying" to "Local student Fee paying"??

thanks
 

noc4012NOV2014

Star Member
Dec 9, 2014
122
13
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-O
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-11-2014
Nomination.....
16-02-2015
Med's Request
24-04-2015; second line 23-04-2015
Med's Done....
30-04-2015;uploaded 07-05-2015
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
first time 27May, second time10June, DM 30May
VISA ISSUED...
12June2015, passport arrives CPC-O
lulufu910 said:
Hi, may I ask what is the CIC's email address?
Thanks,
Lulu
I replied to their mr email which will be directed to the officer.
 

noc4012NOV2014

Star Member
Dec 9, 2014
122
13
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-O
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-11-2014
Nomination.....
16-02-2015
Med's Request
24-04-2015; second line 23-04-2015
Med's Done....
30-04-2015;uploaded 07-05-2015
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
first time 27May, second time10June, DM 30May
VISA ISSUED...
12June2015, passport arrives CPC-O
Enginer315 said:
Just a question:

Can you claim yourself as PR after getting RPRF. Can I change my student status as "International student fee paying" to "Local student Fee paying"??

thanks
No. You cannot do that. You have to at least have the landing paper and perhaps a new SIN number.
 

PhD2014

Star Member
Jan 15, 2015
129
10
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-OTTAWA
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October 2nd, 2014
AOR Received.
PER jan 13th, 2015
IELTS Request
RPRF March 31st, 2015
Med's Request
April 1st, 2015
Med's Done....
April 17th, 2015
Interview........
Decision made on May 27th, 2015
Passport Req..
June 10th, 2015
VISA ISSUED...
June 16th, 2015
LANDED..........
June 22nd, 2015
I think you are wrong,

In some provinces like Ontario, you are eligible to pay domestic tuition and fee after getting PER.

noc4012NOV2014 said:
No. You cannot do that. You have to at least have the landing paper and perhaps a new SIN number.
It depends on your residential province, but you can not claim yourself as PR.
I know that in Ontario you can pay domestic tuition and fee after getting PER.

Applicant from Ontario may confirm that.

Enginer315 said:
Just a question:

Can you claim yourself as PR after getting RPRF. Can I change my student status as "International student fee paying" to "Local student Fee paying"??

thanks