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pepe84

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I strongly disagree and have strong evidences to support my disagreement.

One thing is a comment that a call center agent may want to do about the "in process" status of your file. And another and very different thing is that you believed that such comment is based on the information contained in GCMS system.



cantaloupe said:
Call centre agents have access to your immigration file's details if your case is being processed inside Canada.
 

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pepe84 said:
I strongly disagree and have strong evidences to support my disagreement.

One thing is a comment that a call center agent may want to do about the "in process" status of your file. And another and very different thing is that you believed that such comment is based on the information contained in GCMS system.


The one I called specifically asked me if I have sent in my PCC as requested, I answered in affirmation and he said but the CO has not updated it. Secondly, when I called about my medical since my 3rd line is not updated he told me to wait for a minute so as to allow him look into my file. I believe initially they don't have acess but now they do the only thing they cannot do is to speed up your application except if your application has exceeded the normal processing time.
 

pepe84

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Perhaps they changed it this year but the last time I called them in Dec2014 they did not have access to GCMS for applications being processed anywhere!

Geotherm said:
The one I called specifically asked me if I have sent in my PCC as requested, I answered in affirmation and he said but the CO has not updated it. Secondly, when I called about my medical since my 3rd line is not updated he told me to wait for a minute so as to allow him look into my file. I believe initially they don't have acess but now they do the only thing they cannot do is to speed up your application except if your application has exceeded the normal processing time.
 

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pepe84 said:
Perhaps they changed it this year but the last time I called them in Dec2014 they did not have access to GCMS for applications being processed anywhere!
Yeah probably it was surprising to me too. Because the voice machine then will say the agents have no access to your file but now it says the agent cannot make decisions or speedup your application. Maybe they want to limit order for GCMS.
 

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pepe84 said:
I wonder what number or contact information from CIC you are dialing to reach them?

I honestly doubt CIC call center agents are giving you such information about security screening by phone.

Call center agents cannot access your file, all they can see is the general information you also see when checking your eCAS status.

There are a few comments here from people saying that they called CIC and that security checks are incomplete or not started or delayed. Honestly, I do NOT believe these comments are true.



Call center agents will only be able to access your file once you become a permanent resident and they can therefore check the status of your PR card application.
Hi Pepe,
Well there is nothing to lie about...! I did call them and it seems that they have access to my GCMS notes. I think it also depends on the person you are talking to. As others have mentioned, they decide how much information they want to disclose to you!
 

cantaloupe

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I would not advise people to pretend something. Misrepresentation is not the right thing to do.

pepe84 said:
The fastest way to convince them is:

Pretend you are leaving Quebec, come to Ontario (or any other adjacent province), take a drivers license test (G1 in Ontario) and this government photo id will have your address outside Quebec. Of course you must rent an apartment or live with a friend temporarily in Ontario in order to get an address from this province. Finally, send a photocopy of your new driver's license to CPC Ottawa. They will for sure trust a goverment photo id! If you start this process now, it might take less than a month!

If you have a Quebec drivers license, you just need to transfer it to Ontario.

Another document that is equally strong and convincing is a job offer from outside Quebec!

Other than that, appartment lease or letters from yourself will not help you to get PR.

Good luck!
 

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Adamant said:
This is not quite right actually. One of my friend submitted application on 1st of Aug and recvd on 3r august. They got the PPR on Feb and landed on 10th March. For your information it was their first application. It might be due to security check which delay the processing but not necessery to be 2nd or 3rd application.
You're right it's definitely a case specific scenario.
 

EmilyRen

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pepe84 said:
The fastest way to convince them is:

Pretend you are leaving Quebec, come to Ontario (or any other adjacent province), take a drivers license test (G1 in Ontario) and this government photo id will have your address outside Quebec. Of course you must rent an apartment or live with a friend temporarily in Ontario in order to get an address from this province. Finally, send a photocopy of your new driver's license to CPC Ottawa. They will for sure trust a goverment photo id! If you start this process now, it might take less than a month!

If you have a Quebec drivers license, you just need to transfer it to Ontario.

Another document that is equally strong and convincing is a job offer from outside Quebec!

Other than that, appartment lease or letters from yourself will not help you to get PR.

Good luck!

Hi pepe84,

Thank you very much for your suggestion. I could transfer my drive licence to Ontario, but I am thinking the date that I will get the new licence is sure after their notice letter (for explanation), I am afraid they will suspect that I am cheating or just do it for them. How do you think about it? By the way, my drive licence in Quebec is just 1 year and 2 months, so I can just get a G2 licence in Ontario, does it work too?

Secondly, I have no offer outside of Quebec, but I have a company in Ontario, I just registered it last month, and got the company business number, do you think it can work as an offer?

Thank you very much for your precious suggestions!
 

pepe84

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I may have broken the records of GCMS orders! :D

Geotherm said:
Yeah probably it was surprising to me too. Because the voice machine then will say the agents have no access to your file but now it says the agent cannot make decisions or speedup your application. Maybe they want to limit order for GCMS.
 

pepe84

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You are absolutely right, my messages have been removed, could you please remove yours too as it contains traces of what I wrote?

Thank you very much Adamant!
 

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cantaloupe said:
I would not advise people to pretend something. Misrepresentation is not the right thing to do.
First of all please understand the meaning of misrepresentation properly before using it for someone. This is a really really serious thing and we all aware of it. One thing we should keep in mind, if we can not help others at least we should not stop others to that. Pepe is one of the senior and very experienced user in this forum and whenever he is commenting on something that means he didn't just threw the words for some meaningless rating points or compliment.....I strongly believe he understand it very clearly what he is talking about. If we demoralize someone like him who is helping the others even after getting his PR then I m very sure this forum will be completely useless. Please don't take it personally, all I wanted to save a person who is helping others with his knowledge and experience for nothing.
Best Regards and wishes for u.
 

Adamant

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pouyan_SASK said:
You're right it's definitely a case specific scenario.
I wish u get ur PPR very very soon my friend. I know how painful this waiting is :(
 

brooooook

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Adamant said:
First of all please understand the meaning of misrepresentation properly before using it for someone. This is a really really serious thing and we all aware of it. One thing we should keep in mind, if we can not help others at least we should not stop others to that. Pepe is one of the senior and very experienced user in this forum and whenever he is commenting on something that means he didn't just threw the words for some meaningless rating points or compliment.....I strongly believe he understand it very clearly what he is talking about. If we demoralize someone like him who is helping the others even after getting his PR then I m very sure this forum will be completely useless. Please don't take it personally, all I wanted to save a person who is helping others with his knowledge and experience for nothing.
Best Regards and wishes for u.
Hi Adamant,

In fact, I don't like your behavior because some people really need these useful information. I think CIC will judge it if it's lie. And Pepe just guide people how to prepare a work to convince people. It's very difficult to say if it's lie.
 

pepe84

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I really don't understand your comment :(

brooooook said:
Hi Adamant,

In fact, I don't like your behavior because some people really need these useful information. I think CIC will judge it if it's lie. And Pepe just guide people how to prepare a work to convince people. It's very difficult to say if it's lie.
 

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cantaloupe said:
I would not advise people to pretend something. Misrepresentation is not the right thing to do.
I strongly agree with Adamant! Pepe has been a big help to everybody in this forum! He is trying to explain how to show solid evidences for people claims and intentions. At the end of day, this is everybody's responsibility to decide what to do or not to do! Please appreciate and understand the favor!