Applicant from Lebanon: What exactly is the Civil Status Document?

[MARLENA]

I'm going to ask my husband to try and register me and see if they will accepted or not. Since the church ceremony is taking place in September we thought we will register it once and for all.
Rorita I was so concerned yesterday I swear i couldn't sleep all night. Trying to call my husband all night long and he didn't answer the phone. You guys don't have any voice mail so we can leave a message. it turned out he is working overtime. He is working so much I'm so concerned about it. Sometimes he sleeps only for a few hours and when i call if he doesn't answer stupid of me of course I call every 5 minutes hoping he will pick up but of course he doesn't take his cell with him to his work so if god forbiden ever anything happen I don't know what to do if you know what I mean.

 

[rorita_76]

I am sorry Marlena, I know what you are suffering, my husband is working a lot and for long hour as well. sometime he is so tired he can barely talk.
I really don;t know what will happen in this country, everyone say something, war, blast, small problem here and there, no one knows for sure what will happen, and maybe nothing will happen...Since 1975 we live in lebanon on the sentence: they ae saying something bad will happen, we are always waiting something bad to happen..it is nerve beating.
I will keep you posted if God forbiden and something bad happens, God be with us.

 

[boujasim]

well, if u married using ur canadian nationality and have a lebanese nationality u will NOT be registerd in lebanon.
but its not important coz u married in canada and they care about if the marriage is legal in the country it toke place.

 

[rorita_76]

boujasim, were you able to do anything with your marriage certificate?

 

[boujasim]

nope, i cannot register it, because my wife used her canadian passport instead of her lebanese, now we can fix it by "divorcing" and remarrying as lebanese OR simply fly to cyprus and geta civil marriage ow bala waja3 ras!
now i dunno will the embassy allow me to fix it or will they refuse me right away and tell me to re-apply!

 

[rorita_76]

Ouuuufff...boujasim, you made me really sad, and I didn't need another reason to be sad these days ..
what is that stupid law in lebanon. So if your wife used her canadian instead of lebanese passport...lets suppose she is totaly canadian and never been in lebanon ( it would be for her luck..) they would register your marriage?????? thousand of lebanese marry foreign girls either in church or mosk or court or under the tree...
make more reasearch don't just give up...ask arround, you know how things are in lebanon...put some money in the employee pocket working on these kind of document, and you will see miracle...just don't give up, you have passed most of the steps...

 

[MARLENA]

I don't know if it's a good news or bad one!!!
My husband receive AOR today but they return prepaid phone cards only and don't ask me why along with the AOR. They asked him he can put only a Canadian Citizen as a representative if he wants them to sent any information about the file or what's going on with the file. Can I be his representative if he puts my name???
I guess AOR is a template letter sent to everyone (written same thing except different file #). They told him if they requested any additional documents they will let him know.

Is that normal with AOR???? He is going to scan a copy for me tomorrow so I'll read it more.

 

[rorita_76]

hey Marlena, congrats on the AOR.
About returning the prepaid phone card, it isn't a big deal, cause for them it isn't a proof, you could be calling the moon by using these card, they don't show the recipient so I guess they have returned them so they won't take space in their office, didn't you send phone bills to them? returning this card along with the AOR isn't a problem I guess, not usual cause haven't read any post about, but that doesn't mean it can't happen... so don't worry...but you have to say: Waouuuu the Lebanese mail system was able to deliver the right mail to the right address...go Lebanon...) .
About you being the representative of your husband, yes you can, there are certain form that you have to fill, and send to them I fill it to my lawyer, so now he do all the communication with them, but watch out for something, since you have already provide your husband mail address in Lebanon, when you become the representative, they will use the address you provide on the representative form, in that case if you choose that all the communication goes to your address, you have to change the address on e-cas as well, don't know how, but sure someone here will know.

 

[MARLENA]

Hi Rorita,
My husband scanned a copy of his AOR. Actually i find it weird because they returned the prepaid phone cards. In the letter they stated IF you submitted videotapes, DVD, PHONE CARDS, please not the following: our application kit specifies that you should not submit video discs or video cassettes. These are being retuned to you (enclosed) and have not been reviewed. We are also returning all original phone cards you have submitted.
I don't see anything in the application kit mentioned about phone cards. I read that video discs and music cards are not allowed. I'm assuming for the phone cards since I submitted the orginal perhaps they wanted only a copy and not the original. NO big deal because you can't re-use those cards.
I added him on phone bills but it's so expensive to call directly from home so that's why I use the cards instead because they are much cheaper. I hope my husband can go back to the "central" and asking for receipts when he called me in the past. He almost called 3 hours/week but never asked for a receipt because the women wouldn't want to provide him with any so I'll let him know if he can go back and ask her for the purpose of the immigration. That's the only way he can provide them as a proof.
What do you think???? Good think I didn't sent 1000 cards that I had accumulated I only sent 20 of them and explained in the application that I have 1000 of them which i wouldn't submit unless it's requested.
BTW yes I am going to appoint myself as his representative and I don't need to change anything. Eventually I will have to order CAIPS and that's I want to have the access for it.

 

[boujasim]

ouf rorita! dont be sad its not a big deal! the marriage is still legal! and am sure trhey will understand why i couldnt register it

 

[rorita_76]

Marlena, actually I don't know much about prepaid card in canada, if there isn't a way for the immigration to see what number you are calling usualy, I guess don't care about them, so they resend it to you.
About the phone bills from the central, I am not sure if they can do it, but why don't he use the land line in his house, from some time now, we can call long distance number from the land line in the house, in that case, he can order a detailed phone bill from the phone compagny and your number will show.
yes you should be his representive so you wil be able to order CAIPS later one, but you are going to keep his address as the mailing address, I don't know, but I guess it is a bit risky in lebanon.
Boujasim, yesterday I was very sad with all going one these days, my application, the news in lebanon, the election stress arround it sucks..I hope everything will be just fine with you, but my days are bad, my husband is very scared from a war in lebanon and he is making me nervous..

 

[Rasha]

Marlena,

we call each other instead of text chatting too...But I purchased an online free to canada/us package and when I was there, I set up my account there for my hubby and his family. Now my hubby uses that account to call me, and my family when he wants to talk to them, from his computer to their phone [and it's free for him] I pay like a few buck per month for the service, and it's great!

In addition to that, there is a log which shows which calls are made where.....I also use that service to call my hubby on his cell when he is at work, and I am at home. IT was these logs that we sent to the immigration, so that they can see our time talked, and calling each other...you can imagine...8 months of logs was huge even in smaller print. But you can see the originating call, and the destination numbers.

Calling cards have no proof or validity that they are being used to actually call the other person - now if you had photo copied the card, and then attached a mobile phone log (from your spouse) showing when you were calling him [they could then piece two and two together].

I also think they don't allow the cards due to the magnetic strip...memory escapes me now, but there is something about possible security breech there..i can't remember. anyway...that is my suggestion about correlating calling cards to phone calls.


I forgot to add: some calling card (plans) even the cheap ones...have an online log of calls, so you can see how your card is being used and you can print it out..this would show where you are calling...just a suggestion.

 

[MARLENA]

Rorita they have my mailing address as well so I guess he will still receive all the information like if interview is required or anything else to him but mostly for CAIPS NOTES that's why I'm appointing myself.
He doesn't have a phone in his house. He only have a cellular phone and it's very expensive to call from Cell. especially in Lebanon right???
If they don't believe me that I'm calling him through those long distance phone card who else am I going to call and spending fortune on them right ?????. If he go to interview I'll send all the package with him to show it to them. If don't believe me well I can't do anything about it. I'm on high today don't know why!!!!

 

[rorita_76]

Using cellphone to call outside lebanon is EXTREMLY EXTREMLY EXTREMLY expensive, I always make a miss call for my husband if I want to talk to him and he call me....guess what I am on high today as well, I had a seriuous talk last night at 2.00 am with my husband about if there is a war in lebanon, what shall we do...so I end up by not sleeping, woke up early, and start making problem with people......I almost heat a driver, because he didn't want to let me pass...))
I am sure they will believe you that you bought all these card to call your husband, maybe it is in their rules not to take any proof except made from paper material...don't know..

 

[MARLENA]

Rasha thank you kindly for your information. I'll will start applying your way of dealing with phones