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g126

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shaheerjaved said:
Dude this thing is not opening anywhere but you are right its the whole application.
Question is that why they are requiring me to submit it. my statuses have not changed (timeline i have mentioned you previously)

The reply that i have pasted came on my gmail and not in my account messages and it came twice yesterday as i had logged two queries ne through web form and one through logging a tech nical query from within my account.
To me something smells fishy there as they should be requesting stuff via your EE account and not email. The thing is I've never see a process where someone has added a family member half way through, maybe it gets converted into a sort of Family Sponsorship thing... Not sure!

Look on the bright side, they did not give you a deadline so they'll probably carry on processing your application in parallel.

I think you have two options here:
1) Follow the instructions on the email and submit everything they've asked for; or
2) Have another look at your application and figure out what extra stuff you'd have to send if you had the baby before AOR, and then send it via CSE

But you're the first case I've seen so that's all I can suggest I'm afraid!
 

g126

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09-12-2016
AOR Received.
07-01-2017
File Transfer...
18-02-2017
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
15-12-2016
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16-06-2017
VISA ISSUED...
22-06-2017
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shaheerjaved said:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/step-by-step.asp

this is the web based version of that form
PM the very seniors around: scylla and Asivad Anac... May be they can offer you some other suggestion.
 

Itsmee

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g126 said:
Well they've asked for IMM0008 which is basically the whole thing again... If applicable on the others, yes... but IMM0008 is huge!

I can't actually open that in my computer, I don't have acrobat reader installed, so I may be wrong!


You need acrobat reader to open PDF files. Download it from here:
https://get.adobe.com/reader/
 

shaheerjaved

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g126 said:
To me something smells fishy there as they should be requesting stuff via your EE account and not email. The thing is I've never see a process where someone has added a family member half way through, maybe it gets converted into a sort of Family Sponsorship thing... Not sure!

Look on the bright side, they did not give you a deadline so they'll probably carry on processing your application in parallel.

I think you have two options here:
1) Follow the instructions on the email and submit everything they've asked for; or
2) Have another look at your application and figure out what extra stuff you'd have to send if you had the baby before AOR, and then send it via CSE

But you're the first case I've seen so that's all I can suggest I'm afraid!
I have written to Raj as well as legalfalcon. I think that the two CIC agents who sent me the same mail in a span of three hours yesterday misunderstood my CSE.
all these forms are related to family sponsorship program. My wife is secondary applicant and she is accompanying me. I was also shocked to see the letter as this template is not what i have seen on this blog in cases similar to me (FSWO app family addition due to birth of a child).
I will probably upload all the required docs via cse. I have also read somewhere that they require you to upload these docs via your application checklist page after creating relevant placeholders .
Thats why i find their letter to me strange.
 

g126

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Nomination.....
09-12-2016
AOR Received.
07-01-2017
File Transfer...
18-02-2017
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
15-12-2016
Passport Req..
16-06-2017
VISA ISSUED...
22-06-2017
LANDED..........
09-10-2017
shaheerjaved said:
I have written to Raj as well as legalfalcon. I think that the two CIC agents who sent me the same mail in a span of three hours yesterday misunderstood my CSE.
all these forms are related to family sponsorship program. My wife is secondary applicant and she is accompanying me. I was also shocked to see the letter as this template is not what i have seen on this blog in cases similar to me (FSWO app family addition due to birth of a child).
I will probably upload all the required docs via cse. I have also read somewhere that they require you to upload these docs via your application checklist page after creating relevant placeholders .
Thats why i find their letter to me strange.
Good stuff.. I think you're on the right track! Let us know how you got on ;)
 

shaheerjaved

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g126 said:
Good stuff.. I think you're on the right track! Let us know how you got on ;)
Sure. I will eed your advise in days ahead. His birth cert is still to be applied for and passport will be issued after issuance od birth cert. So this thing is gonna take some time 3 weeks approx. As per your advise i have sent a pm to scylla
 

shaheerjaved

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g126 said:
Good stuff.. I think you're on the right track! Let us know how you got on ;)
G126 take a look please
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t472234.0.html;msg5743458#msg5743458
 

g126

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Nomination.....
09-12-2016
AOR Received.
07-01-2017
File Transfer...
18-02-2017
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
15-12-2016
Passport Req..
16-06-2017
VISA ISSUED...
22-06-2017
LANDED..........
09-10-2017
shaheerjaved said:
G126 take a look please
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t472234.0.html;msg5743458#msg5743458
This sounds more reasonable!
 

shaheerjaved

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g126 said:
This sounds more reasonable!
I think they have wrongly presumed that i an the principal applicant and i had ommitted my wife and child from the app at the time of submission and have now returned back to them to request them to add my wife and son as accompanying dependents.

"If you are the principal applicant of a permanent residence application already in process, you could add your spouse or common-law partner, dependent children, and their dependent children to your application, even if they were listed as a non-accompanying dependant in the initial application.

To do so, we invite you to complete the following forms and mail them to the Centralized Intake Office (CIO) in Sydney, Nova Scotia.

If the newly created family member is a child born in Canada, only the add-on request is required (mine was born outside and in this case these requirememts ought to apply http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t472234.0.html;msg5743458#msg5743458)

A new Generic Application Form for Canada (IMM 0008) with supporting documents,
(If applicable) A Schedule A - Background/Declaration (IMM 5669) form,
(If applicable) An Additional Dependants/Declaration (IMM 0008DEP) form,
(If applicable) A signed Additional Family Information (IMM 5406) form,
A copy of the family member’s valid passport,
Police certificates for all countries where the family member over the age of 18 has lived for more than 6 months since turning 18,
 

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g126 said:
To me something smells fishy there as they should be requesting stuff via your EE account and not email. The thing is I've never see a process where someone has added a family member half way through, maybe it gets converted into a sort of Family Sponsorship thing... Not sure!

Look on the bright side, they did not give you a deadline so they'll probably carry on processing your application in parallel.

I think you have two options here:
1) Follow the instructions on the email and submit everything they've asked for; or
2) Have another look at your application and figure out what extra stuff you'd have to send if you had the baby before AOR, and then send it via CSE

But you're the first case I've seen so that's all I can suggest I'm afraid!
I would not recommend to respond to any e-mail, if they look suspicious, better to raise CSE.


update after reading more posts: so is this normal?
 

Itsmee

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g126 said:
PM the very seniors around: scylla and Asivad Anac... May be they can offer you some other suggestion.

FYi: http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/asivad-anac-bids-adieu-t468710.60.html
 

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Has anyone gotten a request for IMM5662E? And an LOE requesting information regarding personal history? And thoughts on why they would ask for this although all the information was included in my application?
 

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g126 said:
I know, PNP cases are taking longer this year (apparently they were quicker last year), but still to say that (all) PNP-O don't/won't get processed in less that 6 months is nonsense as we have a clear example (albeit just one for now) that this is not the case. And I'm sure we'll have more soon enough..
I never said that PNP applicants are not going to be processed within 6 months (and may be the actual statement made was interpreted wrongly). I just mentioned why people are anxious and why they are trying to call IRCC call center. PNP applicants are worried as the trend for PNP applications that was seen in 2015/early-2016 is not seen now. They are worried becoz they want to be sure if the application is processed in a smooth manner. It is a common human tendency to get worried or anxious about a thing you want dearly. It is completely OK.

It is OK to get GCMS notes anytime you feel suitable. It is OK to call IRCC call center anytime you feel suitable. Nothing is nonsense here. I understand your grievance about bothering the IRCC official again and again with same set of questions. But keep in mind, it is a call center. Where people call and somebody from IRCC attends that call. Now, the applicant has to have a genuine set of queries, need to be polite, and appreciate the fact that the official sitting on the other side of the phone call is providing some information that the applicant does not know.

I also understand your point that if possible we should not jam the IRCC phone lines. Friend, I understand you here. GCMS notes are for the same. But, you can never say that it does not make any sense to call IRCC call center anytime before 6 months. Yes, try avoiding it to the last days. But choose right words to convey your right message in the right manner.

g126 said:
Honestly, there is probably a perfectly good explanation for all this, we just can't see it. :p
Yes. Agreed. We just can't see why IRCC is doing this way. They are the one who know the strategy, we are not.

g126 said:
This takes me back to the OINP days where we used to discuss CEC vs FSW priority, NOC priority... hehehe... I'm thinking something like there are CEC, FSW and PNP officers at IRCC and with the increase in the number of ITAs they have hired more CEC and FSW (so these are getting processed quicker as there is more throughput) but PNP has remained the same... Since OINP released all it's NoMs at the end of last year this flooded the PNP channel and we now have a backlog of PNP cases... How is that for logic?
Probably they have different departments for different categories. Probably they have same department for different categories. Probably they have no categories wise division of applications and each officer may be handling multiple application of different categories. All are probably. We can never be sure, until IRCC officially mentions how they process our EE application for PR.

I apologize if you feel offended with any of my statements above. And I really wish everyone's application gets processed sooner. But all we can do is wish good luck and pray to the Almighty.
 

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wow, some CEC cases in November...
Over 60 days till Medical Passed. Then PPR in another 6 days. :eek:
How do they get background check done so fast? or they request passport upfront for cases that they don't think will have a problem with CSIS report?