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frankie538

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I won my appeal on july 27, 2018 got mail back with letter saying The appeal is allowed. The officer’s decision to refuse a permanent resident visa is set aside, and an officer must continue to process the application in accordance with the reasons of the Immigration Appeal Division. Just got an email on September 13th asking for a bunch of form and med check and Police clearance.

I thought after you win your appeal all that they will ask you to do is to submitt medical check and police clearance. Why are they asking my wife to submit 0008, 5669, 5406 again. Will they make her go through an interviews again even though the appeal was won and the IAD approved the case. Will it get refuse again. I got a letter from the IAD say that the appeal is accepted and the officer decision that failed is set aside and the case officer must continue to process the application. Is my wife good now or will they refuse her again?

This is the email i got from the goverments after my appeal was success with a new UCI number:

This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada.


The Immigration Appeal Division (IAD) has allowed the Appeal on your application. As a result, your application will now be re-opened and re-assessed based on the decision of the IAD.


In order for our office to continue the processing of your application, we require the following documents to be sent to our office within 60 days from the receipt of this letter:


1. An updated application kit which must include the following:


a. IMM 0008 - Application forPermanent Residence for yourself;

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM0008ENU_2D.pdf

b. IMM 5669 - Schedule A - Background Information for yourself and all your dependants over 18 years old;
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5669E.pdf

c. IMM 5406 - Additional FamilyInformation for yourself and all your dependants over 18 years old;
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5406E.PDF


2. An updated IMM 5476 - Use of a Representative form, if you are designating a representative. If you are no longer using your previous representative, please complete Section C of IMM 5476 to cancel your previous representative.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5476E.pdf


3. A copy of the biometric page of your and any dependants’ valid passport.


Please note that your passport must be valid for at least 6 monthsprior to your entry to Canada.


4. A new Medical Examination as per the instructions on our website. If the medical report form (IMM1017) is not included in this letter, it will be sent to you in an email shortly. For more information visit:http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/medical/medexams-perm.asp.


5. Updated Police Certificates from allof the countries you have resided in for 6 months or more since you turned the age of 18 years old. Dependants aged 18 years old and over are also required to submit police certificates.


Instructions to obtain Police Certificates can be found on our website: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/index.asp.



The above information/documents must be received in our office within 60 days from the date of this letter. Please email all requested documents and information to CPC-CTD-Ottawa@cic.gc.ca andput your application number in the subject line.
 
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munimisu

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Jun 23, 2016
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Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Singapore
App. Filed.......
16-12-2016
When a judge assess your case in the full hearing, they used something call the balance of probabilities, this has nothing to do with legal argument, it is more like their perception is used. For example, I have seen cases that are very similar, both appellants were caught somewhat related to MOC in their past, they both submitted similar evidence, however one appeal was allowed while the other one was not, due to the fact that one appellant has a job and house, but the other has no stable job or hard asset in Canada. This is why they always say every case is unique, even though their circumstances are similar.

If you are rejected because of Subsection 4(1) Bad faith; what you need is someone who can help you to come up with better convincing evidence not better legal argument. In order to win the appeal, you need to pass the 2 pong test, 1. No immigration motive to gain advantage, 2 marriage is genuine.
Thanks JYC. Very descriptive and accurate information. However I would still like to take a lawyer for me to prepare better.

Any suggestion for good lawyer in Toronto area? Thanks!
 

JYC

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Jan 5, 2016
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Thanks JYC. Very descriptive and accurate information. However I would still like to take a lawyer for me to prepare better.

Any suggestion for good lawyer in Toronto area? Thanks!
It is good to get some professional advice just on the safe side, and I think it is especially useful for cases that are more complex. Unfortunately I am not familiar with any good immigration lawyer in the GTA. I myself was also searching for one before and I did try to look for one from the winning cases in Toronto https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/irb/, however it is much like a hit or a miss thing, very difficult to judge if one is a good lawyer. Maybe some of the other forum members can shed some light on this matter.
 

munimisu

Star Member
Jun 23, 2016
58
29
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Singapore
App. Filed.......
16-12-2016
It is good to get some professional advice just on the safe side, and I think it is especially useful for cases that are more complex. Unfortunately I am not familiar with any good immigration lawyer in the GTA. I myself was also searching for one before and I did try to look for one from the winning cases in Toronto https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/irb/, however it is much like a hit or a miss thing, very difficult to judge if one is a good lawyer. Maybe some of the other forum members can shed some light on this matter.
Agreed JYC, its a hit and miss. I am already doing my own searching, but leaving this question here, as this forum have been a great help for me overall. Thanks again :)
 

mweselake

Hero Member
Apr 30, 2016
267
149
38
Calgary, Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Husband is from Tunisia, VO IS Paris, France
App. Filed.......
May 2016
Interview........
November 2016....refused ...appealed December 2016.....ADR September 25th 2017 - WE WON!!
I won my appeal on july 27, 2018 got mail back with letter saying The appeal is allowed. The officer’s decision to refuse a permanent resident visa is set aside, and an officer must continue to process the application in accordance with the reasons of the Immigration Appeal Division. Just got an email on September 13th asking for a bunch of form and med check and Police clearance.

I thought after you win your appeal all that they will ask you to do is to submitt medical check and police clearance. Why are they asking my wife to submit 0008, 5669, 5406 again. Will they make her go through an interviews again even though the appeal was won and the IAD approved the case. Will it get refuse again. I got a letter from the IAD say that the appeal is accepted and the officer decision that failed is set aside and the case officer must continue to process the application. Is my wife good now or will they refuse her again?

This is the email i got from the goverments after my appeal was success with a new UCI number:

This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada.


The Immigration Appeal Division (IAD) has allowed the Appeal on your application. As a result, your application will now be re-opened and re-assessed based on the decision of the IAD.


In order for our office to continue the processing of your application, we require the following documents to be sent to our office within 60 days from the receipt of this letter:


1. An updated application kit which must include the following:


a. IMM 0008 - Application forPermanent Residence for yourself;

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM0008ENU_2D.pdf

b. IMM 5669 - Schedule A - Background Information for yourself and all your dependants over 18 years old;
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5669E.pdf

c. IMM 5406 - Additional FamilyInformation for yourself and all your dependants over 18 years old;
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5406E.PDF


2. An updated IMM 5476 - Use of a Representative form, if you are designating a representative. If you are no longer using your previous representative, please complete Section C of IMM 5476 to cancel your previous representative.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5476E.pdf


3. A copy of the biometric page of your and any dependants’ valid passport.


Please note that your passport must be valid for at least 6 monthsprior to your entry to Canada.


4. A new Medical Examination as per the instructions on our website. If the medical report form (IMM1017) is not included in this letter, it will be sent to you in an email shortly. For more information visit:http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/medical/medexams-perm.asp.


5. Updated Police Certificates from allof the countries you have resided in for 6 months or more since you turned the age of 18 years old. Dependants aged 18 years old and over are also required to submit police certificates.


Instructions to obtain Police Certificates can be found on our website: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/index.asp.



The above information/documents must be received in our office within 60 days from the date of this letter. Please email all requested documents and information to CPC-CTD-Ottawa@cic.gc.ca andput your application number in the subject line.
This is completely normal....yiu pretty much have to update the entire application. They cannot refuse her for sane reason... It would only be if there was an issue related to security or something like that.
 

JYC

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Jan 5, 2016
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Agreed JYC, its a hit and miss. I am already doing my own searching, but leaving this question here, as this forum have been a great help for me overall. Thanks again :)
You are welcome munimisu, and remember you can always attend other people's hearing to get yourself familiar with the settings and the type of questions that they asked. Full day hearings are available Monday - Thursday, just make sure you get there before 8:30 am to registrar yourself at the front desk on the 2nd floor and asked for the spouse sponsorship hearings. Good luck my friend!
 

Agi2009

Hero Member
Nov 29, 2015
235
94
Category........
Visa Office......
Accra.
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
4th September 2015
Doc's Request.
20th may 2016 additional proofs was requested...may 26 2016, everything was sent
AOR Received.
November 2015
File Transfer...
24th Nov 2015
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
July 4th 2015
Interview........
probably not
Passport Req..
by his light
VISA ISSUED...
very soon
LANDED..........
the door will open soon
I won my appeal on july 27, 2018 got mail back with letter saying The appeal is allowed. The officer’s decision to refuse a permanent resident visa is set aside, and an officer must continue to process the application in accordance with the reasons of the Immigration Appeal Division. Just got an email on September 13th asking for a bunch of form and med check and Police clearance.

I thought after you win your appeal all that they will ask you to do is to submitt medical check and police clearance. Why are they asking my wife to submit 0008, 5669, 5406 again. Will they make her go through an interviews again even though the appeal was won and the IAD approved the case. Will it get refuse again. I got a letter from the IAD say that the appeal is accepted and the officer decision that failed is set aside and the case officer must continue to process the application. Is my wife good now or will they refuse her again?

This is the email i got from the goverments after my appeal was success with a new UCI number:

This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada.


The Immigration Appeal Division (IAD) has allowed the Appeal on your application. As a result, your application will now be re-opened and re-assessed based on the decision of the IAD.


In order for our office to continue the processing of your application, we require the following documents to be sent to our office within 60 days from the receipt of this letter:


1. An updated application kit which must include the following:


a. IMM 0008 - Application forPermanent Residence for yourself;

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM0008ENU_2D.pdf

b. IMM 5669 - Schedule A - Background Information for yourself and all your dependants over 18 years old;
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5669E.pdf

c. IMM 5406 - Additional FamilyInformation for yourself and all your dependants over 18 years old;
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5406E.PDF


2. An updated IMM 5476 - Use of a Representative form, if you are designating a representative. If you are no longer using your previous representative, please complete Section C of IMM 5476 to cancel your previous representative.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5476E.pdf


3. A copy of the biometric page of your and any dependants’ valid passport.


Please note that your passport must be valid for at least 6 monthsprior to your entry to Canada.


4. A new Medical Examination as per the instructions on our website. If the medical report form (IMM1017) is not included in this letter, it will be sent to you in an email shortly. For more information visit:http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/medical/medexams-perm.asp.


5. Updated Police Certificates from allof the countries you have resided in for 6 months or more since you turned the age of 18 years old. Dependants aged 18 years old and over are also required to submit police certificates.


Instructions to obtain Police Certificates can be found on our website: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/index.asp.



The above information/documents must be received in our office within 60 days from the date of this letter. Please email all requested documents and information to CPC-CTD-Ottawa@cic.gc.ca andput your application number in the subject line.




You are good my dear.... We all went through that line after our appeal was allowed. It's normal mweselake said. Nothing to worried about.
 

Davinson

Full Member
Jun 5, 2018
21
9
Pls anyone here dealing with Accra visa office? Won my appeal over 4 months now and there's no communication whatsoever from thhere visa office. Should I start panicking or is it normal for AVO?
 

Davinson

Full Member
Jun 5, 2018
21
9
It's a normal procedure. And it shows you will get PCC soon!
I won my appeal on july 27, 2018 got mail back with letter saying The appeal is allowed. The officer’s decision to refuse a permanent resident visa is set aside, and an officer must continue to process the application in accordance with the reasons of the Immigration Appeal Division. Just got an email on September 13th asking for a bunch of form and med check and Police clearance.

I thought after you win your appeal all that they will ask you to do is to submitt medical check and police clearance. Why are they asking my wife to submit 0008, 5669, 5406 again. Will they make her go through an interviews again even though the appeal was won and the IAD approved the case. Will it get refuse again. I got a letter from the IAD say that the appeal is accepted and the officer decision that failed is set aside and the case officer must continue to process the application. Is my wife good now or will they refuse her again?

This is the email i got from the goverments after my appeal was success with a new UCI number:

This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada.


The Immigration Appeal Division (IAD) has allowed the Appeal on your application. As a result, your application will now be re-opened and re-assessed based on the decision of the IAD.


In order for our office to continue the processing of your application, we require the following documents to be sent to our office within 60 days from the receipt of this letter:


1. An updated application kit which must include the following:


a. IMM 0008 - Application forPermanent Residence for yourself;

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM0008ENU_2D.pdf

b. IMM 5669 - Schedule A - Background Information for yourself and all your dependants over 18 years old;
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5669E.pdf

c. IMM 5406 - Additional FamilyInformation for yourself and all your dependants over 18 years old;
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5406E.PDF


2. An updated IMM 5476 - Use of a Representative form, if you are designating a representative. If you are no longer using your previous representative, please complete Section C of IMM 5476 to cancel your previous representative.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5476E.pdf


3. A copy of the biometric page of your and any dependants’ valid passport.


Please note that your passport must be valid for at least 6 monthsprior to your entry to Canada.


4. A new Medical Examination as per the instructions on our website. If the medical report form (IMM1017) is not included in this letter, it will be sent to you in an email shortly. For more information visit:http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/medical/medexams-perm.asp.


5. Updated Police Certificates from allof the countries you have resided in for 6 months or more since you turned the age of 18 years old. Dependants aged 18 years old and over are also required to submit police certificates.


Instructions to obtain Police Certificates can be found on our website: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/index.asp.



The above information/documents must be received in our office within 60 days from the date of this letter. Please email all requested documents and information to CPC-CTD-Ottawa@cic.gc.ca andput your application number in the subject line.
 

#jahmed2018

Full Member
Aug 29, 2018
21
1
Thanks for your help, can I private msg you for more details or could you kindly share your experience with me of your appeal

Thank you in advance
I have seen this work in the favour of some individuals. Hoping your scheduling conference leads to reconsideration without a full hearing. I called IAD and asked about scheduling conference and was told I didn't have to attend in person as I am also living out of the country while I wait for full hearing.
If you have a scheduled conference, is there a chance that you might not need a full hearing? How does that work? Thankss!
 

Soulmatestory

Star Member
Feb 4, 2017
98
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If you have a scheduled conference, is there a chance that you might not need a full hearing? How does that work? Thankss!
After speaking with IAD a scheduling conference is just that. You go over the process and they schedule your full hearing date. I have not received my hearing date as yet.
 

Cuchi

Full Member
Sep 17, 2018
20
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Hi everyone! I got notice from IAD that’s my file is select for ADR so I sent all the proofs.. as well my wife take four witness with her self...now anyone have experience of adr so please guide me because on 27 September my hearing so please help me
Hi, can you tell me how long you waited before u got your ADR hearing? Its been 5 months im waiting.
 

malicia

Star Member
Nov 14, 2016
97
52
Hey guys thank God he is real my case was so complicated even my lawyer think that we wouldn't win but we won a full hearing today got the answer one hour after the minister council heard all the evidence he broke for one hour and came and said it was allowed I know God was in control cause when everyone else say that I wouldn't win God show them that he is still in control good luck to the ones who is waiting keep the faith
 

TRUE LOVE

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Dec 11, 2014
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Hey guys thank God he is real my case was so complicated even my lawyer think that we wouldn't win but we won a full hearing today got the answer one hour after the minister council heard all the evidence he broke for one hour and came and said it was allowed I know God was in control cause when everyone else say that I wouldn't win God show them that he is still in control good luck to the ones who is waiting keep the faith
Congratulations!
 
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malicia

Star Member
Nov 14, 2016
97
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Hey guys just a heads up if you was deinal because the office thought your relationship wasn't genuine and enter for the primary purpose of gain entry in to Canada if you get a full hearing first you have to prove that your relationship is genuine second you have to prove it wasn't entered in the primary purpose to gain access to Canada so basically you have to met and prove to them that 2 reason the office turn you done is not true so if you prove that your marriage is genuine and can't prove that it wasn't entered in to primary purpose of gaining status in Canada they will refuse it so make sure prove to them that both reason is not truth