A USEFULL INFORMATION ABOUT RQ ( MAIN REASON )

[love bird 43]

HI GUYS,
today i am giving the reason why rq issue even we do, just one
trevell,or trip outside canada,
the reason ,,, As we know cbsa has no system to do immigration stamps on passports when we do exit from any airport of canada.
For example if a person who is , ( self employed or unemployed,or a private counsaltant ) ,leaves country even 6 monthes before he is going to apply
citizenship ,when he comes back even after saveral weeks, cbsa puts stamps and keeps record officialy of a person who enters in the canada .
When the person applies a citizenship, then cic checks the information on the resedent calculator they assume that, the applicant was not in canada since ever ( may be has just arrived in canada according to the cbsa record,
Found that the person may be lies that he may hav left the country sience he got his pr card, many monthes ago because they dont have, ,,,,,,,,THE EXIT RECORD,,,,,so the reason is anybody who has left canada years ago, he can easily claim that,,,i just arrive in canada ,and left canada for only a month ago ,you cic guys can check my,,,cbsa record or check passport stamps record,when cic askes the passport on test day or in RQ, they applicant gets stuck,thats the point he creates problums for him and for others aswell,,therefore, to avoid these things, they ask eveything ,like bank account,,,,statements,job rec, tax rec,dr rec etc.............so, ,,,we have to decide what we need to do ...best of luck guys.

 

[Ironman22]

Thank you very much for the reason, dear.
But my brain hurts real bad, after reading your post :'(

 

[Leon]

If anybody were planning on lying about their exits like stating every time they enter Canada that they were only gone for a month, CIC may be able to figure that out by other means. They do work with the US border and who knows which other countries. Other posters have said that in their cases, they seemed to have info from airline passenger lists as well. If you lie and get caught, you have a problem. True they don't do exit checks but you still do not know how much they know.

 

[love bird 43]

If anybody were planning on lying about their exits like stating every time they enter Canada that they were only gone for a month, CIC may be able to figure that out by other means. They do work with the US border and who knows which other countries. Other posters have said that in their cases, they seemed to have info from airline passenger lists as well. If you lie and get caught, you have a problem. True they don't do exit checks but you still do not know how much they know.

HI,
That you know,cic knows,but who lies doesn,t know,who gets advised by crook immigration counsaltants,for little bunch of mony.

 

[love bird 43]

Even now a days people are doing, thats why, cic officials are
Issueing RQ ,every other person now a days,as it wasn,t like that even up to 2006 .
thats why they say, self employed ,unemployed etc,if some body showed job rec,,during 3 years even with travell history,the chances,are drameticaly, low.

 

[OKK]

HI GUYS,
today i am giving the reason why rq issue even we do, just one
trevell,or trip outside canada,
the reason ,,, As we know cbsa has no system to do immigration stamps on passports when we do exit from any airport of canada.
For example if a person who is , ( self employed or unemployed,or a private counsaltant ) ,leaves country even 6 monthes before he is going to apply
citizenship ,when he comes back even after saveral weeks, cbsa puts stamps and keeps record officialy of a person who enters in the canada .
When the person applies a citizenship, then cic checks the information on the resedent calculator they assume that, the applicant was not in canada since ever ( may be has just arrived in canada according to the cbsa record,
Found that the person may be lies that he may hav left the country sience he got his pr card, many monthes ago because they dont have, ,,,,,,,,THE EXIT RECORD,,,,,so the reason is anybody who has left canada years ago, he can easily claim that,,,i just arrive in canada ,and left canada for only a month ago ,you cic guys can check my,,,cbsa record or check passport stamps record,when cic askes the passport on test day or in RQ, they applicant gets stuck,thats the point he creates problums for him and for others aswell,,therefore, to avoid these things, they ask eveything ,like bank account,,,,statements,job rec, tax rec,dr rec etc.............so, ,,,we have to decide what we need to do ...best of luck guys.

Well i don't know the source of your information however i will disagree as airline passenger list is there (CBSA do get the copies of every airline passenger list), entry stamps from the country a person is travelling to, customs card upon your arrival you have to fill (on which you HAVE to indicate your exact dates). That is why when one go for a citizenship test the passports are checked for all the stamps. This day and age all the federal level computer system are linked such as CBSA, SERVICE CANADA etc etc. Its just like in the past people who were collecting EI (employment insurance) will be on the next flight out as their claim was approved but not anymore, now you will get that nasty letter in the mail for one committing fraud as they check record of every person leaving or entering this country, same goes for the people who failed to pay child support and try to leave the country. So in other words if a person decides to lie that will be a real dumb move. He/She can possibly lose PR status let alone getting citizenship.

 

[love bird 43]

Well i don't know the source of your information however i will disagree as airline passenger list is there (CBSA do get the copies of every airline passenger list), entry stamps from the country a person is travelling to, customs card upon your arrival you have to fill (on which you HAVE to indicate your exact dates). That is why when one go for a citizenship test the passports are checked for all the stamps. This day and age all the federal level computer system are linked such as CBSA, SERVICE CANADA etc etc. Its just like in the past people who were collecting EI (employment insurance) will be on the next flight out as their claim was approved but not anymore, now you will get that nasty letter in the mail for one committing fraud as they check record of every person leaving or entering this country, same goes for the people who failed to pay child support and try to leave the country. So in other words if a person decides to lie that will be a real dumb move. He/She can possibly lose PR status let alone getting citizenship. I am sorry my friend, i diagree,with you,too.
If it is like that then there is ( NO REASON TO ISSUE THE RQ ) to the people they got suspected. simple is that. THERE IS NO POINT TO ISSUE RQ,S, ( AND IT IS VERY EASY TO BRIBE IN SOME COUNTRIES, TO PUT A DESIERABLE ENTRY IMMIGRATION STAMP......ITS TRUE TOUGH....

 

[love bird 43]

I am sorry my friend, i disagree,with you,too.
If it is like that then there is ( NO REASON TO ISSUE THE RQ ) to the people they got suspected. simple is that. THERE IS NO POINT TO ISSUE RQ,S.
In some countries,Its easy to bribe people to put desirable entry stamps,cic knows that.
I agree that, they are linked,but i am telling again, that,YOU KNOW,CIC KNOWS,
I KNOW,BECAUSE WE ARE ,on this forum,but the person who commits immigration fraud, or,did in past and now stuck,they don,t know.

 

[Leon]

What immigration needs is better entry and exit checks. Then they would not need RQ's.

 

[RussCan]

Physical presence is only one of the factors qualifying grant of citezenship. When there is compliance with the physical presence requirement only but clearly no close ties with Canada have been demonstrated by the an applicant, it's in nobodies favor, Canada or Canadians, that such the applicant receives his citezenship. The RQ often is the only meance to demonstrate such ties when a reasonable suspicion exists the applicant is applying "on the way to the airport", therefore I don't think it will be or should be abolished.

 

[love bird 43]

What immigration needs is better entry and exit checks. Then they would not need RQ's.
ONECE,when i been to dubai in 2011, i saw when i enterd they puted me on syatem,and when i left, they putted me on syatem,and puted exit stamp aswell,and if durring the stay, in uae, did i have any outstandings, for uae govt,tfeffic fines,etc, and then exit immigration controll system. Then you are free to leave country,it happens evry time.

 

[Msafiri]

Concur that CBSA tracking exits would greatly increase the integrity of the whole process. Burden was always the volume of traffic at land border crossings - try crossing the border on a holiday weekend. Progress on this is that US entries effectively count as Canada exits so when CIC/CBSA and CBP share data they can help minimize false residence declarations. However as in any system they will always be those willing to take a chance. The benefits are so substantial that this will not stop overnight.

Reduced resource from the Feds has scuppered the timelines with CIC office closures and staff cutbacks. The application fee at 200 bucks is likely significantly below cost and taxpayers are subsidizing. Couple this with a generous immigration scheme adding hundreds of thousands to the citizenship inventory and that you can apply with hardly any physical presence and you can see how this doesn't help.

Most places that have a well established immigration system review self employed applicants with more scrutiny as statistically they have more scope for residence fraud. As the OP has mentioned many immigration source countries have endemic corruption - its easy to get back dated and post dated entry/ exit stamps at will for a fraction of the Citizenship fee.

 

[love bird 43]

Concur that CBSA tracking exits would greatly increase the integrity of the whole process. Burden was always the volume of traffic at land border crossings - try crossing the border on a holiday weekend. Progress on this is that US entries effectively count as Canada exits so when CIC/CBSA and CBP share data they can help minimize false residence declarations. However as in any system they will always be those willing to take a chance. The benefits are so substantial that this will not stop overnight.

Reduced resource from the Feds has scuppered the timelines with CIC office closures and staff cutbacks. The application fee at 200 bucks is likely significantly below cost and taxpayers are subsidizing. Couple this with a generous immigration scheme adding hundreds of thousands to the citizenship inventory and that you can apply with hardly any physical presence and you can see how this doesn't help.

Most places that have a well established immigration system review self employed applicants with more scrutiny as statistically they have more scope for residence fraud. As the OP has mentioned many immigration source countries have endemic corruption - its easy to get back dated and post dated entry/ exit stamps at will for a fraction of the Citizenship fee.

well said...

 

[SenoritaBella]

Actually, CBSA is now stamping permanent residents' passports when you arrive in Toronto. There are kiosks also(new), where you can enter information from your declaration form, saving you the time you have to wait in line to do it with a border officer. The stamps have the date you entered Canada, then the officer writes "PR" and date you left Canada(as per your declaration form).

 

[love bird 43]

Actually, CBSA is now stamping permanent residents' passports when you arrive in Toronto. There are kiosks also(new), where you can enter information from your declaration form, saving you the time you have to wait in line to do it with a border officer. The stamps have the date you entered Canada, then the officer writes "PR" and date you left Canada(as per your declaration form).

Well i hope they move forward posatively,for the sake of innocent people, that, perteclerly never done immigration fraud, ,,,,and less processing time for their citizenship applications for them.