A USEFULL INFORMATION ABOUT RQ ( MAIN REASON )

[Msafiri]

Actually, CBSA is now stamping permanent residents' passports when you arrive in Toronto. There are kiosks also(new), where you can enter information from your declaration form, saving you the time you have to wait in line to do it with a border officer. The stamps have the date you entered Canada, then the officer writes "PR" and date you left Canada(as per your declaration form).

Entries are captured but the issue is exits. Picture the following scenario:

1. You land in Canada on Jun 1, 2013, then have an entry stamp to your home country on Sep 1, 2013 then return to Canada Oct 1, 2013 the presumption is you were on Canada between Jun 1, 2013 and Sep 1, 2013. So your physical presence day count is 92.

2. You land in Canada on June 1, 2013 but exit on June 2, 2013 and you arrive in your home country same day where you bribe the immigration officials to put an entry date stamp of Sep 1, 2013. Alternatively the immigration controls in your country are lax so you don't get inspected or they don't entry stamp citizens e.g the EU doesn't stamp their member state nationals. In reality you have only 1 day of presence in Canada not the 92 above.

Its easier to pull of 2 when you are unemployed or self employed. A regular full time job won't give you this leeway. So when you apply for Citizenship the risk of getting an RQ is higher. It doesn't help that the Citizenship and PR residency fraud rings in Montreal and Mississauga that resulted in a ramp up of RQ issuance had most applicants as 'self employed'.

 

[Leon]

Another way to cheat would be to enter a 3rd country. Say you land in Canada on June 1st, you leave on June 2nd and go back to your home country where your passport isn't stamped or you bribe them not to stamp it. On Sept. 1st when you want to go to Canada again, you first enter a 3rd country where you get a passport stamp and a couple of days later, you return to Canada. Just looking at your passport, it looks like you were in Canada until Sept. 1st and then visited the 3rd country for a couple of days before returning to Canada again. You would also have to declare on your customs form that you were only outside Canada for a couple of days.

This is why immigration is suspicious if you do not work or are self employed or work for a small family business because you would get away with doing the above. If you are working full time for a Canadian employer, you would in most cases have to come in to work 5 days a week and that would make it very hard for you to cheat on the RO.

 

[free]

I do not know about these people trip situation in overseas.my PR card was swiped by airport staff when I exited canada and they grabbed my exit info.and when I entered canada they asked me that when I left canada too.even if i travlled to 3 countries but when I return canada my airport staff back home will put an exit stamp on my passport.i do not know anybody in my country for case of canada has bribed anybody at airport.i know my friends have trip outside canada but did not get RQ.what about them?are they miracles? I have seen cases who were unemployed and did not get RQ.so what about them?you think too much about these stuff that is why that you even think and put yourself on the shoes of CIC too

 

[Msafiri]

I do not know about these people trip situation in overseas.my PR card was swiped by airport staff when I exited canada and they grabbed my exit info.and when I entered canada they asked me that when I left canada too.even if i travlled to 3 countries but when I return canada my airport staff back home will put an exit stamp on my passport.i do not know anybody in my country for case of canada has bribed anybody at airport.i know my friends have trip outside canada but did not get RQ.what about them?are they miracles? I have seen cases who were unemployed and did not get RQ.so what about them?you think too much about these stuff that is why that you even think and put yourself on the shoes of CIC too

Don't get carried away this was a general discussion about the statistical risk of an RQ but then again you may have missed the whole point by not taking enough time to clearly read and understand the subject matter. When you say you don't know anybody in your country that has bribed in what capacity do you make that statement? Do you know every single entrant into the country? Do you have access to the relevant records of each immigration officer at each border entry point? Stop taking this personally as a slight against your country of origin - there is no 100% corruption free country.

 

[love bird 43]

The, only secure way to reduce the rq.....for selfemployed unemployed...etc....that...dont do trevell at all
until the test date ...since landing in canada, but its hard.....guys.......end of the day......

 

[kc2500]

Minister Chris Alexander: Solve the 4 year delay Canadian citizenship applications suffer. Please sign up this petition by going to change dot org, in search type Residence Questionnaire and you will see a link as follows:

Petition | Minister Chris Alexander: Solve the 4 year delay Canadian

click on it and sign up.

 

[txboyscout]

There is so much fraud with immigration going on that CIC has no idea what they can do/need to do to catch prepretators

If you were self employed for any length of time, the onus is on YOU to prove to CIC that you were physically in Canada. If you are legitimately self employed there should be no hinderance to proving that you were in Canada.

I had a good friend who was a self employed IT contractor for the entire time before he applied for citizenship. He had letters from all of the companies that he provided services to stating he was physically present on their proerty from this date to that that--never rcvd the RQ because he proactively submitted these docs with the application

 

[khakalove]

HI GUYS,
today i am giving the reason why rq issue even we do, just one
trevell,or trip outside canada,
the reason ,,, As we know cbsa has no system to do immigration stamps on passports when we do exit from any airport of canada.
For example if a person who is , ( self employed or unemployed,or a private counsaltant ) ,leaves country even 6 monthes before he is going to apply
citizenship ,when he comes back even after saveral weeks, cbsa puts stamps and keeps record officialy of a person who enters in the canada .
When the person applies a citizenship, then cic checks the information on the resedent calculator they assume that, the applicant was not in canada since ever ( may be has just arrived in canada according to the cbsa record,
Found that the person may be lies that he may hav left the country sience he got his pr card, many monthes ago because they dont have, ,,,,,,,,THE EXIT RECORD,,,,,so the reason is anybody who has left canada years ago, he can easily claim that,,,i just arrive in canada ,and left canada for only a month ago ,you cic guys can check my,,,cbsa record or check passport stamps record,when cic askes the passport on test day or in RQ, they applicant gets stuck,thats the point he creates problums for him and for others aswell,,therefore, to avoid these things, they ask eveything ,like bank account,,,,statements,job rec, tax rec,dr rec etc.............so, ,,,we have to decide what we need to do ...best of luck guys.

excelllent, love bird 43,thanks fo such a nice information.great job.

 

[khakalove]

Don't get carried away this was a general discussion about the statistical risk of an RQ but then again you may have missed the whole point by not taking enough time to clearly read and understand the subject matter. When you say you don't know anybody in your country that has bribed in what capacity do you make that statement? Do you know every single entrant into the country? Do you have access to the relevant records of each immigration officer at each border entry point. Stop taking this personally there is no 100% corruption free country.

msafiri,good job.

 

[b52shot]

I think there is one simple way to save us and save themselves time and effort. Make the documents required for RQ the same documents required for citizenship application.

 

[Hasher]

I think there is one simple way to save us and save themselves time and effort. Make the documents required for RQ the same documents required for citizenship application.

Yes true, why not they give people a list of documents that they ask later on. Some of requirement are in the application form though.

 

[Msafiri]

Citizenship application fees:

I've gone with parity for USD/AUD to CAD.

USD 595/ CAD 595

GBP 874/ CAD 1450

AUD 260/ CAD 260

NZD 470/ CAD 400

CIC need to look at what these countries are doing to get their application through in 6 months especially Australia where the fee is in the same ballpark figure. Admittedly I haven't looked at inventory numbers which is likely the major constraint. If someone into the FOI process can get the number of Citizenship Officers then this would back up the resource issue..if the case even a doubling of fees won't change anything in the short term 6-12 mths as the new CIC staff receive training. UK fee includes a citizenship 'benefit' premium with fee over and above simple cost recovery.

 

[farrous13]

I think Canada should look into increasing their fees if that's the only hurdle that separates every applicant from getting their application processed faster.

Canada does not accept broke people who can't afford to pay $1k for an application. Yes we can argue that $1k is a lot. But what's the hurry? Just save till the $1k is there and then apply.

I am not aware on how fast the UK, NZ or even AUS process is? Advice me pls.

Citizenship application fees:

I've gone with parity for USD/AUD to CAD.

USD 595/ CAD 595

GBP 874/ CAD 1450

AUD 260/ CAD 260

NZD 470/ CAD 400

CIC need to look at what these countries are doing to get their application through in 6 months especially Australia where the fee is in the same ballpark figure. Admittedly I haven't looked at inventory numbers which is likely the major constraint. If someone into the FOI process can get the number of Citizenship Officers then this would back up the resource issue..if the case even a doubling of fees won't change anything in the short term 6-12 mths as the new CIC staff receive training. UK fee includes a citizenship 'benefit' premium with fee over and above simple cost recovery.

 

[123sMike]

I believe you will still get RQ with 1 k fees as well, since they have geiven so many RQ's that now the excuse is they have less people to work on the application, with new funding ..more people will look at the RQ's to be processed but the issue is again the hassle of getting the documents, submitting it, getting them processed..get all clearances and then give a test date and then oath date.. the test should make person aware of canada but if he fails ..he should not go back and prepare again..he should get a chance to give the exam again the same day so the processing is faster..which means he did look at the exam and then look for the answers in the book which is not easy till you have studied the book and then come and give the exam..which helps the person learn about canada which is the motive and not enhancing the waiting times by asking the applicant to come again and burdening the system...

 

[CanuckForEver]

guys sorry to burst your bubble, just because you would want to pay higher processing fees, that does not translate faster processing times. the problem is not with shortage of people, not with underfunding, it is with the mindset, with the mental blockage. now not many of you would accept it with me, but more likely than not that is the problem!