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ImpatientAlligator

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If you are high skilled and also have the means to get a US green card in a reasonable amount of time, there is no other option that comes close.

For those who are high skilled but can't get a US green card, Canada is a pretty great option. I'd say an even better option than two years ago despite the best efforts of the Liberals.
 
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cemivac

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Incredible place, and if they hadn't fucked up their immigration system over the last couple of years, I would stay in Canada through thick and thin. But the last two years have made me lose faith in the country to make good decisions. Doesn't remove the value of their passport though.

Housing crisis, low wages etc don't bother me. And you're right, Canada is objectively probably a great place.
I understand the frustration, hard not to feel it given the uncertainty. Happens to me at least! But hey, we're going through the process already. If we stick it out it might just resolve for the better. Here's to hoping for an immigration system that goes with the place.
 

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5.EB5 direct green card with an investment of 500k$ in the US in rural area or 1million $ in cities.
You might have other options but I am sure you have this 5.
If you thought the IRCC delays were bad, check this out. Even if you a million to spare, this process would take 3+ years as per current processing times (not counting country limits). You'd probably be a Canadian citizen by then.
 
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I understand the frustration, hard not to feel it given the uncertainty. Happens to me at least! But hey, we're going through the process already. If we stick it out it might just resolve for the better. Here's to hoping for an immigration system that goes with the place.
Correction: YOU are going through the process. I'm not. But like I said, I'm not frustrated. I still see Canada as a part of my future. Just won't be where I end up eventually.

If we stick it out it might just resolve for the better.
Optimism is good and all, but this doesn't make sense. It is literally impossible for it to resolve for the better. The absolute best case scenario is that I apply for PR and I get PR. That's the only possible good outcome. It's the baseline expectation. Nothing 'better' about getting exactly what you applied for, only 4 years late because of bad policy making.


I hope you're next in line for the PPR though!
 
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If you thought the IRCC delays were bad, check this out. Even if you a million to spare, this process would take 3+ years as per current processing times (not counting country limits). You'd probably be a Canadian citizen by then.
Hang on, aren't Canadian citizens entitled to a TN visa too? What keeps people who immigrated permanently and became citizens from working for a few years in the US if they so desire, and coming back to Canada/their home country to retire after getting higher salaries?
 

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Yesterday, in CIMM committee meeting Minister indicated that backlog will ever exist. So backlog is not going away it is just made "manageable". Backlog numbers for High skill were appx 15K CEC and 54K FSW persons by Jan, so CEC should be cleared late by March and FSW should take to 3rd/4th quarter Now with assumption of making line of business "manageable" I guess they will start draw now because new intake will come after March. FSW by 4th quarter.

With this, I think Canada is transitioning into next Phase of immigration like US, to strong backlog of applications for coming years and PR will be processed as in when they feel or FIFO basis.

Important observations from last few days -

1. No commitment from clearing backlog
2. People are more worried about Refugees(especially Afghan's) than economic migration
3. It is mandate to create pathways for temporary foreign workers and international students but surprisingly there is no commentary anywhere.
Check this out -

https://www.hilltimes.com/2022/02/15/immigration-minister-fraser-takes-heat-for-short-sighted-approach-to-processing-backlogs/344783
 
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Hang on, aren't Canadian citizens entitled to a TN visa too? What keeps people who immigrated permanently and became citizens from working for a few years in the US if they so desire, and coming back to Canada/their home country to retire after getting higher salaries?
You can, as long as you can renew your TN visa .... which can be revoked anytime you cross the border :)

A more stable approach would be to get your Canadian passport and then get your H1B. But you can't take a break, start a side gig or start your own business while you're there.
 
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If you thought the IRCC delays were bad, check this out. Even if you a million to spare, this process would take 3+ years as per current processing times (not counting country limits). You'd probably be a Canadian citizen by then.
As you know US is a totally different ball game 3+ years for a gc can't be compared with 3+ years for Canada pr.
In us houses are affordable
You can get a job very easy.
Traveling options
Powerful passport
Ease of starting a business
Availability of credit.
Weather

Only downside is health care,
Guns other than that US is just a paradise.
 
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Correction: YOU are going through the process. I'm not. But like I said, I'm not frustrated. I still see Canada as a part of my future. Just won't be where I end up eventually.


Optimism is good and all, but this doesn't make sense. It is literally impossible for it to resolve for the better. The absolute best case scenario is that I apply for PR and I get PR. That's the only possible good outcome. It's the baseline expectation. Nothing 'better' about getting exactly what you applied for, only 4 years late because of bad policy making.


I hope you're next in line for the PPR though!
I understand the situation. Hear me out a bit. Since you still see it as part of your future, I'm pretty sure you envision some sort of life in Canada, maybe as a particular type of professional? It may come off as unsolicited advice, but I do think that what you do today will have an impact on that future you. I haven't landed and can't really plan for it but hey, back then I learned french to squeeze out those extra CRS points. While I wasn't in the pool, I was working towards it. Now I'm furthering my career in the role I'd like to have. That can't really go to waste can it? Easy for me to say to keep your head up high, but it really is about making the best out of what you've got. I'm sure you're working towards something similar.

Thank you for the warm wishes! Hope you're in that first batch of new FSW ITAs? if and when they come or get a lucky provincial nomination/job/alternative. Who knows, we might just share a pr card/passport someday.
 

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As you know US is a totally different ball game 3+ years for a gc can't be compared with 3+ years for Canada pr.
In us houses are affordable
You can get a job very easy.
Traveling options
Powerful passport
Ease of starting a business
Availability of credit.
Weather

Only downside is health care,
Guns other than that US is just a paradise.
I wouldn't mind at all if it's 3 years for something like FSW US. But putting a million into a somewhat risky investment and HODLing for 3+2 years?
 

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Just got through the new levels plan and leaked memos and overall, the situation looks positive to me, considering there has been no update or movement on most backlogged applications or new FSW draws since a year now.
Maybe I haven't understood enough but I feel generally positive about pre-ita folks too. Draws WILL resume, at the most by 2023. I find solace in that little piece of information. Better the devil you know than the one you don't.

for smartphone folks, my AOR is March 2020. Eligibility is RR by case analyst for work reference cert.
 
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I wouldn't mind at all if it's 3 years for something like FSW US. But putting a million into a somewhat risky investment and HODLing for 3+2 years?
It looks very risky from out side it is not let me explain you a simple scenario.

There are construction projects where you can partner with or for eg a franchise of mc d
That is never a risk I will tell you why a construction project is not risky. There will be 10 people with you to do it.that means for eg you are making a motel you can easily employ 10 people in 2 years (including construction period and working).once you get a gc you can sell it also.You have to understand all member of your family gets a gc so you and your wife works 500k intrest money is not that big deal.Even if your buisness fails in 5 years if you are highly skilled you can bounce back.
Mc d I have been to 43 states I have never seen a mcd which is not busy.I mean never.
 
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Does anyone have any idea about EB4 US green card? Can I start a cult, hire some free spirits and concubines, wait for a couple of years and move to the US via this route?
 
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at the most by 2023
Remember back when the sentence was "draws are coming back in July 2021"? Then it was October. Then September. Then "surprise christmas megadraw!". Then January 2022 after mandate letter. Then July 2022 after backlogs. Now it's pre-emptively "2023 at the latest". Meanwhile there will be a new crisis. "Christmas 2023 surprise draw!"

Positive news all around!
 

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It looks very risky from out side it is not let me explain you a simple scenario.

There are construction projects where you can partner with or for eg a franchise of mc d
That is never a risk I will tell you why a construction project is not risky. There will be 10 people with you to do it.that means for eg you are making a motel you can easily employ 10 people in 2 years (including construction period and working).once you get a gc you can sell it also.You have to understand all member of your family gets a gc so you and your wife works 500k intrest money is not that big deal.Even if your buisness fails in 5 years if you are highly skilled you can bounce back.
Mc d I have been to 43 states I have never seen a mcd which is not busy.I mean never.
I see. It's not for us anyway. Last I heard from a lawyer, there are so many Indians in this 3 year processing lag that it would easily hit the country cap of 700/year and we'd see a big queue time in addition to the processing time.