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wello711

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Feb 11, 2021
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Hello every one my H&C got rejected
Applied June 24
AOR 19 July
Processing August
Refusal : 19 Jan
Toronto office
Best interest of child and hardship

can any one help me how to apply to get details of refusal .

thank you
stay strong and don't lose hope ! you can contact vancouver office to get notes in 24h @bella12 can help you moe.
If you have strong evidences and proofs you can apply for JR or another h&c so you will have the chance to prepare a better case based on refusal notes
CBSA has priorities so be positive and don'T stress and work hard to regularize your situation
 

daughter

Star Member
Sep 17, 2021
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Hello every one my H&C got rejected
Applied June 24
AOR 19 July
Processing August
Refusal : 19 Jan
Toronto office
Best interest of child and hardship

can any one help me how to apply to get details of refusal .

thank you
May God stand with you in this trying moment , keeping going you can still make it
 
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tony4454

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Nov 20, 2020
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Hello every one my H&C got rejected
Applied June 24
AOR 19 July
Processing August
Refusal : 19 Jan
Toronto office
Best interest of child and hardship

can any one help me how to apply to get details of refusal .

thank you
God i hate those motherfucking people working there. Sorry about your refusal.

Write a nice email to TorontoPRRA-ERAR@cic.gc.ca sharing your emotions and ask them if they could provide you the refusal notes. When you send them email, you will get an automated response saying they dont reply, just ignore and hopefully you will receive refusal notes in 24hrs. Also at the same time copy paste your content and send another email to VancouverBRO@cic.gc.ca asking for refusal notes. @890913
 
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wello711

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God i hate those motherfucking people working there. Sorry about your refusal.

Write a nice email to TorontoPRRA-ERAR@cic.gc.ca sharing your emotions and ask them if they could provide you the refusal notes. When you send them email, you will get an automated response saying they dont reply, just ignore and hopefully you will receive refusal notes in 24hrs. Also at the same time copy paste your content and send another email to VancouverBRO@cic.gc.ca asking for refusal notes.
Hi tony, did you apply again ?
 

bella12

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Jul 10, 2019
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Hello every one my H&C got rejected
Applied June 24
AOR 19 July
Processing August
Refusal : 19 Jan
Toronto office
Best interest of child and hardship

can any one help me how to apply to get details of refusal .

thank you
I was tagged by @wello711 to assist on what you need to do next!....

The first thing I will say is NOT to be in fear. don't panic. Fear is oftentimes one of the reason people make a lot of mistakes and in some cases, run into the hand of lawyers that will eventually SCAM you of your hard-earned money!

The advice I will write has worked for me. I also gave similar advice to other members in the forum and it worked for them. there is a member by the profile name @tony4454 who was refused and I told him how he can request a copy of the refusal letter from IRCC. It worked.

First and foremost. do you mind me asking if you use a lawyer and do you mind me asking if you trust your lawyer beyond 100%? Is the lawyer reliable?
I ask this question because MOST lawyers are NOT usually honest and not reliable. MOST will only take your application because they WANT YOUR MONEY regardless of the outcome of your h&c application. The pandemic has even made it worst. they are using clients as a CASH COW.

My first advice is NOT to depend so much on the use of a lawyer. There are some things you will need to have the balls to do by yourself if you are serious about increasing the success rate of your application.

Now, here is what you need to do :

1)
Request for a copy of the refusal letter from IRCC: If you use your personal email as a means of communication between yourself and IRCC in your refused application, use the SAME email to request a copy of a refusal letter for your application. I assure you, they will email you the refusal letter in less than 24hrs as soon as they receive your email. THIS SERVICE IS FREE

PLEASE NOTE:
Ensure you include your full name, h&c application number, and UCI number in the email. this will make it easy for them to locate your files so that they can email you a copy of your refusal letter

Secondly, if possible; avoid using a lawyer to request the copy. they will scam you !... How ? they would not let you know how to request a copy. they will make it look like it is a complicated process. They use that will milk your hard-earned money till your account is zero!

2) When they email you a copy of your refusal letter, carefully take your time to read all the reasons they listed on why they refused your application. Try to make sure you understand all the reasons. Your understanding of all the reasons will give you an idea of what to do or documents/evidence you need to provide to counter all the reasons listed.

3) Seek the opinions of other people on how best to counter each of the reasons listed in the refusal letter. I will suggest you use people in this forum because most people in this forum are "experts".. we all did our application by ourselves and there has been a high success rate from every member in this forum. People will give you their HONEST opinion on what you can when you ask.

4) Once you now understood all the reasons for your refusal and how to counter them all, I will suggest you consider putting in a NEW h&c application. You should use this application to address all the reasons why you were refused in your first application. ensure you back it up with STRONG ARGUMENT BACKED WITH EVIDENCE.....when you submit your application the new immigration officer will mostly be interested looking to see if you have addressed those reasons.ALSO, SHOULD IN CASE YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE HAS CHANGED, PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF IT TO UPDATE THEM IN THE NEW APPLICATION

PLEASE NOTE:
If you are very confident in yourself and you have very good writing skills, i will suggest you do the NEW application yourself. you know your life and immigration story than a lawyer... if there is anything you are not sure about when working on your new application, seek an opinion from members in this forum.



VERY IMPORTANT YOU KNOW THIS: Submitting a new H&C application has a higher success rate than putting in an application for Judicial Review(JR). Most lawyers will recommend a JR because it's a way for them to make fast money. I have NEVER seen anybody that has gone through JR and got this application approved.JR is just a waste of time. To add more salt to injury, the pandemic has made it worst. You can wait endlessly for the court date for your case
 
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wello711

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Feb 11, 2021
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I was tagged by @wello711 to assist on what you need to do next!....

The advice I will write has worked for me. I also gave advice to other members in the forum and it worked for them. there is a member by the profile name Tony who was refused and I told how he can request for a copy of the refusal letter from IRCC

First and foremost. do you mind me asking if you use a lawyer and can you mind me asking if you trust your lawyer beyond 100%? Is the lawyer reliable?
I ask this question because MOST lawyers are not usually honest and not reliable. MOST will only take your application because they WANT YOUR MONEY regardless of the outcome of your h&c application. The pandemic has even made it worst as they are using clients as a CASH COW.

My first advice is NOT to depend so much on the use of a lawyer. There are some things you will need to have the balls to do by yourself if you are serious about increasing the success rate of your application.

Now, here is what you need to do

1)
Request for a copy of the refusal letter from IRCC: If you use your personal email as a means of communication between you and IRCC in your refused application, use the SAME email to request for a copy of a refusal letter for your application. I assure you, they will email it you in less than 24hrs as soon as they receive your email. THIS SERVICE IS FREE

PLEASE NOTE: Ensure you include your full name, h&c application number, and UCI number in the email. this will make it easy for them to locate your files so that they can email you a copy of your refusal letter

Secondly, if possible; avoid using a lawyer to request a copy. they will scam you !... How ? they would not let you know how to request a copy. they will make it look like it is a complicated process. They use that will make money out o you

2) When they email you a copy of your refusal letter, carefully take your time to read all the reasons they listed on why they refused your apllication. Try to make sure you understand all the reasons. Your understanding of all the reasons will give you an idea of what to do or documents/evidence you need to provide to counter all the reasons they listed.

3) Seek the opinions of other people on how best to counter each of the reasons listed in the refusal letter. I will suggest you use people in this forum because most people in this forum are "experts".. we all did our application by ourselves and there has been a high success rate from members in this forum. People will give you their HONEST opinion on what you can when you ask.

4) Once you now understand all the reasons for your refusal and how to counter them all, I will suggest you consider putting in a NEW h&c application. You should use this application to address all the reasons why you were refused in your first application. ensure you back it up with STRONG ARGUMENT AND EVIDENT.....when you submit your application the new immigration will mostly be interested looking to see if you have addressed those reasons.ALSO, SHOULD IN CASE YOUR CIRCUMATNACE HAS CHANGE, PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF IT TO UPDATE THEM IN THE NEW APPLICATION

PLEASE NOTE: If you are very confident in yourself and you have very good writing skills, i will suggest you do the NEW application yourself. you know your life and immigration story than a lawyer... if there is anything you are not sure about when working on your new application, seek an opinion from this forum.



VERY IMPORTANT YOU KNOW THIS: Putting a new H&C application has a high success rate than putting in an application for Judicial Review(JR). Most lawyers will recommend a JR because it's a way for them to make fast money. I have NEVER seen anybody that has gone through JR and got this application approved.JR is just a waste of time. To add more salt to injury, the pandemic has made it worst . You can wait endlessly for the court
Your post is very helpful ! thank you
 

aframehr

Full Member
Nov 16, 2021
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Hello every one my H&C got rejected
Applied June 24
AOR 19 July
Processing August
Refusal : 19 Jan
Toronto office
Best interest of child and hardship

can any one help me how to apply to get details of refusal .

thank you
How you got your refusal on January 19th,
Today is January 13th
 

R Brar

Star Member
May 28, 2015
181
146
Hello every one my H&C got rejected
Applied June 24
AOR 19 July
Processing August
Refusal : 19 Jan
Toronto office
Best interest of child and hardship

can any one help me how to apply to get details of refusal .

thank you
Many people got refusal earlier but ultimately came out with success. Follow the success stories and prepare new H and C based on notes. Good times always ahead. Take courage and be confident
 

SpiritualWonderBoy

Hero Member
Jul 2, 2020
654
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Hello every one my H&C got rejected
Applied June 24
AOR 19 July
Processing August
Refusal : 19 Jan
Toronto office
Best interest of child and hardship

can any one help me how to apply to get details of refusal .

thank you
You can re apply but first and foremost you need to ask for the Refusal Notes in order for you to address all the concerns why they refused your application. In your second application include everything evidences what you have and I suggest you must submit new evidence as additional. In your cover letter pin point the hardships of your child and the interest of your child, direct to the point as well as some officers really cant handle to read long cover letter when you just repeat the premises you wanted them to consider.

Pray as well that your new application will not get transfer to H and C Toronto Office that office is the worst for H and C, a lot of applicant got refusal in that office. I also applied TRP couple of times in that office and got refused couple of times.
 
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You can re apply but first and foremost you need to ask for the Refusal Notes in order for you to address all the concerns why they refused your application. In your second application include everything evidences what you have and I suggest you must submit new evidence as additional. In your cover letter pin point the hardships of your child and the interest of your child, direct to the point as well as some officers really cant handle to read long cover letter when you just repeat the premises you wanted them to consider.

Pray as well that your new application will not get transfer to H and C Toronto Office that office is the worst for H and C, a lot of applicant got refusal in that office. I also applied TRP couple of times in that office and got refused couple of times.
Hi, Do you know based on what they decide on which office to send applications to? I thought all H&C applications go to Vancouver office, am a bit confused . . Appreciate your response here. Thanks.
 
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