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That doesn’t make much sense since most were being processed in under 6 months. The ones benefiting from this are inland spouses and FSW-I PNP-I
You are right. They did last time for temporary residents that included all inland categories. This temporary policy facilitated CEC and TR to PR pathways too. They are going to repeat same in year 2022.
 
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That doesn’t make much sense since most were being processed in under 6 months. The ones benefiting from this are inland spouses and FSW-I PNP-I
I think this is accurate. People who can apply until Mar 31 are those who received their ITAs before Jan 31. I doubt IRCC will conduct another megadraw in Jan because of the backlog. I mean they've been cutting down invites themselves so yeah. We can never know though, we've been getting fucked for 2 years now.
 
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Windsor37

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I've had this debate way too many times so I'm not up for another round. I'm sure our friends will remember your unrealistic depiction of the Canadian job market when they've been looking for a decent job for 6-12 months.

I rather remind some actual data:

https://careers.workopolis.com/advice/how-long-does-it-take-canadians-to-get-a-new-job/#:~:text=Job searches can last anywhere,it is roughly four months.

How long does it take Canadians to get a new job?

Job searches can last anywhere from two days to over a year, but for most people it is roughly four months.

Be advised that it says Canadians so the numbers probably include both the citizens and the immigrants. Do that study again with just the immigrants and it's obviously above 4 months, probably sits somewhere between 6-12 months. It's also funny how software fellas like to come talk as if all jobs were software jobs.

Another one;

https://canadianimmigrant.ca/careers-and-education/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-find-a-job

Why does it take so long to find a job?

To wit, a job that paid an annual salary of $50,000 would take, on average, 5 months to find.

So yeah, immigrants definitely find good jobs in Canada in n0 TyMe.

And another one;

https://canadabuzz.ca/how-long-it-takes-to-get-a-job-in-canada/

How Long it Takes to Get a Job in Canada

Generally, it takes about 15 – 23 weeks to find a job in Canada if you have Canadian experience. New immigrants to Canada experience timelines anywhere from a few weeks to over 6 months!



Is it?
I still believe that the job market is skewed to certain professions which makes finding jobs in those field easier over others, while the points you highlighted is true, my guess is that most people who are having trouble finding a job are probably competing in sectors that is not in demand. From canadabuzz, the top most in-demand jobs are:
  • Sales associate*
  • Driver*
  • Receptionist*
  • Welder*
  • Web developer
  • Business development manager
  • General labourer*
  • Project manager
  • Heavy-duty mechanic*
  • Merchandisers*
  • Electrical engineer
  • Accountant
  • HR manager
  • Financial Advisor
  • Registered nurse
If look at the list, 7 out of 15 (the one with an *) doesn't really need a Bachelor's degree, let alone a master's degree; so if you consider an immigrant with an MS degree in a different field, like Psychology, Environmental Engineering, they might have a really hard time in getting a job in the field that they want simply because there aren't many jobs in that field available. They also can't look into a relatively higher paying fields like Electrical Engineering, Accountant or Nurse, because the experience and education they have is not matched in those areas too; but bills need paying, so they end up as a driver or receptionist at least temporarily until they managed to find another occupation they're much suited into.

To put this into perspective, I'm working in Microelectronics, which is a subset in the field of Electrical Engineering (at least that's what my NOC code says), and there are relatively plenty of jobs available. The demand in this field is currently high in Canada, and I actually got an offer even before landing. And this is where the skew comes in, I think if your skillset is one of those in-demand skilled job category, then Canada would be an opportunity you won't want to miss; but if your profession is not in one of these areas then well you can see the statistics, whether or not it's worth it though, is up to you.
 
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I still believe that the job market is skewed to certain professions which makes finding jobs in those field easier over others, while the points you highlighted is true, my guess is that most people who are having trouble finding a job are probably competing in sectors that is not in demand. From canadabuzz, the top most in-demand jobs are:
  • Sales associate*
  • Driver*
  • Receptionist*
  • Welder*
  • Web developer
  • Business development manager
  • General labourer*
  • Project manager
  • Heavy-duty mechanic*
  • Merchandisers*
  • Electrical engineer
  • Accountant
  • HR manager
  • Financial Advisor
  • Registered nurse
If look at the list, 7 out of 15 (the one with an *) doesn't really need a Bachelor's degree, let alone a master's degree; so if you consider an immigrant with an MS degree in a different field, like Psychology, Environmental Engineering, they might have a really hard time in getting a job in the field that they want simply because there aren't many jobs in that field available. They also can't look into a relatively higher paying fields like Electrical Engineering, Accountant or Nurse, because the experience and education they have is not matched in those areas too; but bills need paying, so they end up as a driver or receptionist at least temporarily until they managed to find another occupation they're much suited into.

To put this into perspective, I'm working in Microelectronics, which is a subset in the field of Electrical Engineering (at least that's what my NOC code says), and there are relatively plenty of jobs available. The demand in this field is currently high in Canada, and I actually got an offer even before landing. And this is where the skew comes in, I think if your skillset is one of those in-demand skilled job category, then Canada would be an opportunity you won't want to miss; but if your profession is not in one of these areas then well you can see the statistics, whether or not it's worth it though, is up to you.
This is exactly why I say Canadian job market is pretty shit. If you look at EU, US, Asia, even some places in middle east, you'll see that the spectrum is much wider. In Canada, you just gotta be among the lucky few.
 

Windsor37

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This is exactly why I say Canadian job market is pretty shit. If you look at EU, US, Asia, even some places in middle east, you'll see that the spectrum is much wider. In Canada, you just gotta be among the lucky few.
Ok on the US, and EU, but Asia, it depends on where in Asia are we talking about, if it's the big 3, Taiwan, Japan and Korea, yeah sure, but if it's the rest of Asia, I don't think so - the Philippines for example has a large number of graduates in various different fields, but a disproportionately high amount of them ends up working in BPOs / call centers - and don't even get me started on the pay.
 

PRANIT01

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I don't know about that. Maybe. I would say it speeds up CEC processing though, which isn't the worst thing in the world for people sitting in the backlog.
Speeding up cec ,they are getting pprs in the matter of weeks and months, while we are waiting for years lol.
 

arbutuscult

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Speeding up cec ,they are getting pprs in the matter of weeks and months, while we are waiting for years lol.
Yeah. But as we know IRCC prioritized CEC/inland processing to meet their 2021 target. They clearly want to land those who are already in Canada first, so they put more resources toward processing inlanders. Those resources will not be freed up until most/all of the inlander applications are processed.

Therefore, anything that helps speed up inland processing is also good for us outlanders. The faster they get processed, the faster they get to our files.

Am I wrong about this?
 

PRANIT01

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Yeah. But as we know IRCC prioritized CEC/inland processing to meet their 2021 target. They clearly want to land those who are already in Canada first, so they put more resources toward processing inlanders. Those resources will not be freed up until most/all of the inlander applications are processed.

Therefore, anything that helps speed up inland processing is also good for us outlanders. The faster they get processed, the faster they get to our files.

Am I wrong about this?
What you said is right only under 1 circumstance that IRCC wont have any cec draws, because if they have that again 2021 will repeat,from what we are seeing chance of having a cec draws high .Forget about mandate, memo and all .
 
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arbutuscult

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What you said is right only under 1 circumstance that IRCC wont have any cec draws, because if they have that again 2021 will repeat,from what we are seeing chance of having a cec draws high .Forget about mandate, memo and all .
Yeah I see what you're saying, and I'm anxious to see when and how the draws will resume. I guess we'll see soon enough.

Just curious, what did the mandate letter and memo say? Anything important?

Edit: Nevermind, I'll look for it myself.
 

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It increases likelihood of CEC draws and TR to PR pathway in first half of 2022.
It is extended till March 31, 2022. Meaning, first quarter will be CEC/inland heavy. Though I think most of CEC inventory by this time is more or less gone. They were around 57K pending in october or so. Each month total (all channel) landings have been 45K+. I think it is likely by Jan end, very few CEC will remain.
 

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It is extended till March 31, 2022. Meaning, first quarter will be CEC/inland heavy. Though I think most of CEC inventory by this time is more or less gone. They were around 57K pending in october or so. Each month total (all channel) landings have been 45K+. I think it is likely by Jan end, very few CEC will remain.
Or IRCC continues with PNP only draws till March and clear some of the backlog which is what the memo said.
 

arbutuscult

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It is extended till March 31, 2022. Meaning, first quarter will be CEC/inland heavy.
CEC/inland heavy as in, draws or PPRs?

Because if you mean PPRs, I think you're probably right. But If you're talking about draws, I'm failing to see how we can make that connection.
 

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