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[Deleted member 1050918]

I must ask though from an economic standpoint, why would you want to have the operations and plants in Canada? Typical semiconductors plants are operated at a ratio of 1:10 to 1:25, 1 engineer and 10-25 technicians / operators manning the machines. These "techs" and "operators" normally only have vocational courses or high school degrees, since they don't normally need a college degree to do what they need to do. If an engineer in this field would pursue an advanced degree it's usually in less technical areas like MS management, optimization, at least with what I have observed.

In contrast, R&D centers, have populations entirely made up of engineers, with only a handful of techs to support manual labor stuff. R&D folks needs a bare minimum of BS degree, and if they pursue advance degrees it's usually a technical degree like MS engineering.

Anyway going back, I think what Canada has to do is to startup more R&D, or attract the R&D centers from other areas like Silicon Valley into it's place. I'd rather see Apple opening up an Apple Campus that develops next generation HW/SW in Canada, than a manufacturing plant for Mac/iPhones. They can keep that in China, or Texas, or wherever they're doing it right now.

Totally agree with what I underlined and plants don't only include production plants but also development and design offices (so you can think R&D and product development, method development etc.). You'd be surprised though, that a lack of sole production plants actually leads to a lack of development offices because if you have nothing to produce then you have nothing to develop. In my country, which is a silly third-world country, STEM fellas could work in great projects in many areas of science and engineering (pay is shit though), we have such a variety here.

 

[GandiBaat]

What I'm saying is not Canada doesn't have any global operations. To give you an example, if there is 1 unit of global operations and corps in Canada providing a proportional number of jobs per month or year, in my third-world country (x2 the population in Canada) there are probably 3 or 4 units of global operations and corps providing 3-4 times the jobs if not more. And big corps aren't the only benchmark; there are many mid or small sized heavy industry tech companies here and in EU. In Canada you'll only find startups employing 10 - 50 people with a CEO younger than 30.

When you say "operations", you mean plants or manufacturing units? Well most of them have shifted to China. Remember, more developed economies tend to be heavy on services while developing economies tend to take manufacturing. My own country, India, is odd one out. It tried to skip manufacturing and jumped straight into services. It fell head first in inequality trap.

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

When you say "operations", you mean plants or manufacturing units? Well most of them have shifted to China. Remember, more developed economies tend to be heavy on services while developing economies tend to take manufacturing. My own country, India, is odd one out. It tried to skip manufacturing and jumped straight into services. It fell head first in inequality trap.

Europe is a good example of what I mean by operations. I'd also include the US but yeah, different league. So what's in Sweden for example, is that you see a fair amount of factories and actual production and manufacturing plants, and many R&D and product development offices either directly belonging to these facilities or have signed a contract with for collaborative work. This industrial structural also shapes universities and leads how research should be. You'll see that EU universities work very closely with industry so academic jobs are also increasing. Whereas in Canada, universities can't connect with industry too much because there's no industry in the first place.

Now I'm not suggesting this: "Build a shit ton of factories in Canada and you're golden." Look at Alberta, tons of factories, no R&D or product development. Why? Because NO VARIETY. All they do is oil & gas, energy, mining, construction and a few other closely related operations. As I said, dig it out and sell it mentality is hurting their economy.

 

[RSub]

Canada has a population of 38.2 m- about 1/10th the US. It still has the same (if not higher especially in terms of healthcare) living standards as the US. End of the day, they are making enough money with a fraction of the same resources as the States. This means they are doing something right. Population to job ratio has to be fine. Every country has its moneymakers- natural resources and tech may be the strongest in Canada.

When it comes to jobs, I am an Indian and I know that how things work in India is very different from how they work in North America. I had to unlearn and re-learn a lot of things once I moved to the US. I can say with confidence and personal experience that a lot of people from outside north america and some parts are Europe are unemployable in North American/some european STEM jobs without additional training and education. If someone can find a job in a developing country like India where the population is 1.3 b, they sure can compete in Canada if they are willing to put in the necessary effort to get themselves trained and ready to go. Advantage of having a PR is that it provides you unlimited freedom to learn or work wherever. People need to humble themselves and use that freedom to better their employment chances

Man, we fight with millions of sperms at birth and millions of humans after birth. This is why Indians survive anywhere...And ofcourse some of us have loud mouths that tend to annoy people around us...!!!

 

[Windsor37]

Totally agree with what I underlined and plants don't only include production plants but also development and design offices (so you can think R&D and product development, method development etc.). You'd be surprised though, that a lack of sole production plants actually leads to a lack of development offices because if you have nothing to produce then you have nothing to develop. In my country, which is a silly third-world country, STEM fellas could work in great projects in many areas of science and engineering (pay is shit though), we have such a variety here.

I'm not sure about other industries, but at least for semiconductor industries, like Nvidia, Apple's SoC divison, AMD, there's a clear line between R&D and the manufacturing plant. In fact apart from Intel, most semiconductor firms focus solely on designing and developing their chip and offloads a huge chunk of the manufacturing part to some other company like TSMC, GlobalFoundries, Amkor, etc.

In my country, which is a silly third-world country, STEM fellas could work in great projects in many areas of science and engineering (pay is shit though), we have such a variety here.

You're in a much better boat then, here the opportunities for STEM are rather slim. I'm quite lucky enough to get employed in an R&D center of a relatively large multinational company. I'm leveraging on that brand recognition in my work experience, hopefully, once I begin applying in Canada.

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

You're in a much better boat then, here the opportunities for STEM are rather slim. I'm quite lucky enough to get employed in an R&D center of a relatively large multinational company. I'm leveraging on that brand recognition in my work experience, hopefully, once I begin applying in Canada.

Same. But in my case all those big names on my CV won't matter much to the 28 year old "CEO" who's only feeding 10-20 mouths and whose only concern is to go to his shop to assemble the 20 orders he received this month. As I said, literally all of my STEM friends are employed in Canada so yes we'll all likely be employed eventually. But still, Canada needs political incentives and actions to limit the "dig it out and sell it" mentality and draw more skilled and quality STEM jobs into Canada with more variety.

 

[Windsor37]

Same. But in my case all those big names on my CV won't matter much to the 28 year old "CEO" who's only feeding 10-20 mouths and whose only concern is to go to his shop to assemble the 20 orders he received this month. As I said, literally all of my STEM friends are employed in Canada so yes we'll all likely be employed eventually. But still, Canada needs political incentives and actions to limit the "dig it out and sell it" mentality and draw more skilled and quality STEM jobs into Canada with more variety.

In an alternate view, if Canada is doing this, as you put it, dig it and sell it. They should start digging out and selling out rare earth minerals. And if they have enough backing, actually process this into goods like lithium batteries, magnets, or solar panels. It'll be pretty rare to see a country which harvest the raw materials, processes it, and exports the goods. But alas, Canada is too cold to do any of this profitably, maybe if the earth were to get a little warmer.

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

In an alternate view, if Canada is doing this, as you put it, dig it and sell it. They should start digging out and selling out rare earth minerals. And if they have enough backing, actually process this into goods like lithium batteries, magnets, or solar panels. It'll be pretty rare to see a country which harvest the raw materials, processes it, and exports the goods. But alas, Canada is too cold to do any of this profitably, maybe if the earth were to get a little warmer.

Good idea; not sure if they have much of those minerals though. They sell a lot of oil and gold; and all around the globe they're targeting (acquiring) gold mines and such. It's well known that Canada's economy and the number of open jobs get directly hit whenever oil & gas prices plummet. Take that oil & gas, mining and energy money out of Canada and what you end up with is not a first-world G7 country but a typical eastern european country that just happens to be located in North America. This is exactly why I always call Canada a pseudo first world country.

Canada's politicians lack perspective. As you suggested they need to go hard on R&D, PD, production, manufacturing; but they lack the perspective. When they do mining, they dig out the same old stuff. Even in that they lack perspective.

 

[Windsor37]

Good idea; not sure if they have much of those minerals though. They sell a lot of oil and gold; and all around the globe they're targeting (acquiring) gold mines and such. It's well known that Canada's economy and the number of open jobs get directly hit whenever oil & gas prices plummet. Take that oil & gas, mining and energy money out of Canada and what you end up with is not a first-world G7 country but a typical eastern european country that just happens to be located in North America. This is exactly why I always call Canada a pseudo first world country.

Canada's politicians lack perspective. As you suggested they need to go hard on R&D, PD, production, manufacturing; but they lack the perspective. When they do mining, they dig out the same old stuff. Even in that they lack perspective.

They have, they're in the top 10 reserves I think. I don't think I completely agree with you on that part on the oil, while Canada in general is big on oil and gas, they do have other big industries such as finance, IT and as previously discussed R&D. I don't think they'll plummet down to a typical Eastern European country, Alberta and Saskatchewan may plummet down since they are really dependent on crude, but Ontario, British Columbia and Quebec I doubt that. The primary industries of these provinces are not oil and gas.

R&D definitely, production likely yes since they do own the resources, although I'm still adamant in supporting manufacturing. Unless they're manufacturing very specialized low demand, high-value product like military jet engines, or if they have a highly developed AI system wherein 10 employees can oversee the entire manufacturing plant 24/7, I don't see it happening nor do I want it to happen.

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

They have, they're in the top 10 reserves I think. I don't think I completely agree with you on that part on the oil, while Canada in general is big on oil and gas, they do have other big industries such as finance, IT and as previously discussed R&D. I don't think they'll plummet down to a typical Eastern European country, Alberta and Saskatchewan may plummet down since they are really dependent on crude, but Ontario, British Columbia and Quebec I doubt that. The primary industries of these provinces are not oil and gas.

R&D definitely, production likely yes since they do own the resources, although I'm still adamant in supporting manufacturing. Unless they're manufacturing very specialized low demand, high-value product like military jet engines, or if they have a highly developed AI system wherein 10 employees can oversee the entire manufacturing plant 24/7, I don't see it happening nor do I want it to happen.

Not to digress, in terms of STEM jobs and economy, BC is not that different than AB but yeah there's a bit more variety there, although the variety comes from the 28 year old CEOs I joked about before. The problem is Canada is behind other developed countries; that's all I'm trying to say. My friends who found jobs in Canada are happy but their jobs are dead boring and the pay is silly because that's all there is in Canada if you're in STEM (I don't wanna keep typing "excluding IT blah blah yeah IT does good everywhere").

 

[immicow]

In the video below, Its said the if your order notes from CSIS and If your security is completed by CSIS and not updated by IRCC. It will be updated by the agent who is reviewing your GCMS notes. Is this true or am I understanding this wrong?
Its said somewhere in the 8-9 minute mark.

 

[RSub]

Like WTF.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1451186731160539149

 

[starlordavuthu]

Vaccine passport in Canada just became official. I think this is a step in right direction.

 

[dankboi]

Vaccine passport in Canada just became official. I think this is a step in right direction.

lord knows if it's right or wrong. but this is some direction it's heading hehe

 

[EscoBlades]

In the video below, Its said the if your order notes from CSIS and If your security is completed by CSIS and not updated by IRCC. It will be updated by the agent who is reviewing your GCMS notes. Is this true or am I understanding this wrong?
Its said somewhere in the 8-9 minute mark.

No