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September 2020 - Citizenship Applicants

MrChazz

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Well, that's pretty much what I said too LOL. The wording is different for oath and test and we'll have to tread very carefully for oath because it says you'll have to be present in Canada. IRCC is asking applicants to send an email if you're outside Canada and have received an oath invitation but that doesn't guarantee you'll be able to take oath while you're overseas.

Either way, IRCC might have some surprises up its sleeve. We never know. Eventually, when someone who is overseas receives oath invite, they will contact IRCC and hopefully post an update on the forum with IRCC's response. We'll have to wait for some confirmed reports in order to either accept or debunk this idea.

I hope they find a way to allow this because otherwise, the backlog will only grow. People will keep rescheduling their oath ceremonies and when they are back in Canada, they'll have to be accommodated and applicants who applied after them will see their oath ceremonies delayed. We don't want that. We want the backlog to go down, not up.

Hard to know what they are up to, but my guess is that it probably has to do with rescheduling. There could be a lot of issues there that could lead to "unfairness". For example, imagine a person whose criminality was completed 10 months ago. If the oath is rescheduled, to later than 3 months, then it's back to the seemingly endless "in progress". Maybe in such exceptional cases, the rescheduling could be moved up the queue, or the person might even be allowed, as an exception, to take the oath from outside (unlikely, I think).

Someone suggested that oaths must be taken inside Canada because the PR card gets cut during the ceremony, but one needs to be able to get back into the country. I am not so sure about that one. It would not be a huge deal to simply say "if you are outside the country, then don't cut your PR card, but return it to us when you get back".

I think requiring the oath to be done within the country is simply a matter of some principle, just as the whole idea of the oath itself is a matter of principle. After all sort of paperwork and checks, the oath itself does not make anyone more "qualified" to be a citizen than they were before it. But even in covid times, they will not dispense with it, because of some "idea" that people are reluctant to let go; and they want to keep as many of the in-person rules as possible. Otherwise they could even have 100,000 people doing the oath on video at one go!
 
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LIZA1

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PLEASE HELP!!!!!
When I log in to CIC it says that I have received the INTERVIEW INVITATION... and i apparently already got 2 of them.

It says:
Follow the instructions that will be sent to you for information on:

  • how to attend the interview
  • what documents you have to present
BUT I NEVER GOT ANYTHING IN THE EMAIL/MAIL / JUNK MAIL./ Nowhere... HOW DO I ATTEND the Interview? It says its scheduled for July 19th, 2021
 
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rajkamalmohanram

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Hard to know what they are up to, but my guess is that it probably has to do with rescheduling. There could be a lot of issues there that could lead to "unfairness". For example, imagine a person whose criminality was completed 10 months ago. If the oath is rescheduled, to later than 3 months, then it's back to the seemingly endless "in progress". Maybe in such exceptional cases, the rescheduling could be moved up the queue, or the person might even be allowed, as an exception, to take the oath from outside (unlikely, I think).

Someone suggested that oaths must be taken inside Canada because the PR card gets cut during the ceremony, but one needs to be able to get back into the country. I am not so sure about that one. It would not be a huge deal to simply say "if you are outside the country, then don't cut your PR card, but return it to us when you get back".

I think requiring the oath to be done within the country is simply a matter of some principle, just as the whole idea of the oath itself is a matter of principle. After all sort of paperwork and checks, the oath itself does not make anyone more "qualified" to be a citizen than they were before it. But even in covid times, they will not dispense with it, because of some "idea" that people are reluctant to let go; and they want to keep as many of the in-person rules as possible. Otherwise they could even have 100,000 people doing the oath on video at one go!
Yup, I agree. There needs to be some workflow that doesn't hamper applicant's return into Canada after oath if oath is taken abroad. The main problem is unceremoniously cutting the PR card at the end of the ceremony and the second one is the delay in sending Citizenship certificate. IRCC will likely NOT send the certificate to an address outside Canada or the US but if that changes, then probably taking oath outside Canada makes sense.

We don't know, let's wait and watch what they are up to.

They should consider increasing the number of applicants per ceremony. I mean, what's the point of having 20 - 40 people per ceremony when you have a crushing backlog that is only growing everyday?
 

rajkamalmohanram

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PLEASE HELP!!!!!
When I log in to CIC it says that I have received the INTERVIEW INVITATION... and i apparently already got 2 of them.

It says:
Follow the instructions that will be sent to you for information on:

  • how to attend the interview
  • what documents you have to present
BUT I NEVER GOT ANYTHING IN THE EMAIL/MAIL / JUNK MAIL./ Nowhere... HOW DO I ATTEND the Interview? It says its scheduled for July 19th, 2021
Hmmm that's weird. If your interview is on 19th and you still haven't received an email, then it is probably one of those glitch / testing updates and you might not actually have to attend the interview.

Make sure you keep checking your inbox /spam folders just in case you receive an email but most likely, you won't receive one.

Good luck and all the best. Please keep me posted.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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@rajkamalmohanram Received the passport request email today - 10 days after my test status was updated to Completed. My stamp translation is not ready yet though. Hopefully can submit it tomorrow.
I'm glad you started the process of getting your documents translated. IRCC Mississauga is going bonkers with passport pages request LOL. I think everyone who recently took the test after June 23rd is getting one. Anyway, like I already said, this is much better than waiting without any update from IRCC.

Keep your passport pages document ready and once you receive the translation, send it immediately.

I've updated the spreadsheet.

Wish you good luck and all the very best!
 
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smilysmoke19

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PLEASE HELP!!!!!
When I log in to CIC it says that I have received the INTERVIEW INVITATION... and i apparently already got 2 of them.

It says:
Follow the instructions that will be sent to you for information on:

  • how to attend the interview
  • what documents you have to present
BUT I NEVER GOT ANYTHING IN THE EMAIL/MAIL / JUNK MAIL./ Nowhere... HOW DO I ATTEND the Interview? It says its scheduled for July 19th, 2021
hopefully you will get email before one or two days. do not worry about that.
 

LIZA1

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Hmmm that's weird. If your interview is on 19th and you still haven't received an email, then it is probably one of those glitch / testing updates and you might not actually have to attend the interview.

Make sure you keep checking your inbox /spam folders just in case you receive an email but most likely, you won't receive one.

Good luck and all the best. Please keep me posted.
tThank you very much for your reply . can you please let me know what testing glitch ? is that a common thing?
 
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rajkamalmohanram

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tThank you very much for your reply . can you please let me know what testing glitch ? is that a common thing?
A few weeks ago, several applicants reported getting interview invitations but no one had to attend the interview because there was a glitch OR IRCC was doing testing on production with live accounts to see if interview invites are being sent.

One person posted this today after contacting IRCC.

"..... I contacted them today and they said a random selected test caused my account say interview for July 15 when there is no interview scheduled. “Our Headquarters were conducting an IT systems review and your file was randomly selected to test if the new Client Tracker portal was working effectively and therefore there is actually no event scheduled that you need to participate in.” "
So, IRCC is randomly selecting someone and then sending a dummy interview invitation to test that feature LOL. So, if you don't receive an email, you probably are a victim of one of their "tests".
 

LIZA1

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A few weeks ago, several applicants reported getting interview invitations but no one had to attend the interview because there was a glitch OR IRCC was doing testing on production with live accounts to see if interview invites are being sent.

One person posted this today after contacting IRCC.



So, IRCC is randomly selecting someone and then sending a dummy interview invitation to test that feature LOL. So, if you don't receive an email, you probably are a victim of one of their "tests".
Wow thank you so much for your reply,!!! The only thing that I’m worried about is that I got 2 invites and the first one was for June 26 and now the second one is for July 19 but I really hope that it is a glitch or that I will get the email invite very soon
 
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rajkamalmohanram

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Wow thank you so much for your reply,!!! The only thing that I’m worried about is that I got 2 invites and the first one was for June 26 and now the second one is for July 19 but I really hope that it is a glitch or that I will get the email invite very soon
Likely a glitch. For actual interviews, you receive the email at least a week in advance. The fact that you haven't received an email for an interview that is scheduled on the 19th makes me think this is most likely either the work of IRCC testing on live accounts or a glitch.

Did you receive any other communication from IRCC? I mean, did you receive emails from them before (for the citizenship test, AOR etc?). I'm asking this to make sure there is no issue with emails from IRCC reaching your inbox.
 

nocomments

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I'm glad you started the process of getting your documents translated. IRCC Mississauga is going bonkers with passport pages request LOL. I think everyone who recently took the test after June 23rd is getting one. Anyway, like I already said, this is much better than waiting without any update from IRCC.

Keep your passport pages document ready and once you receive the translation, send it immediately.

I've updated the spreadsheet.

Wish you good luck and all the very best!
Yeah thanks to your information so I started early - although not early enough. lol
 
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